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The junk-time Tigers (Inside Football)
« on: September 02, 2011, 03:14:25 AM »
The junk-time Tigers
BURKE'S LAW – NATHAN BURKE
Inside Football


 
If Richmond thinks it has a springboard for 2012, it has another think coming.

"This win will give Richmond a lot of confidence going into next season."

How often have we heard that one over the past 10 years and how often has it turned out to be a load of rubbish?

Sorry, Tigers fans still jubilant after beating the Crows, but this win will have absolutely no effect on season 2012 – and if anything will do you more harm than good.
Late wins are not the sign of emergence that most people think.

Teams that can't make the finals playing each other in late rounds is the equivalent of junk-time goals in a basketball game.

Certainly the stats show no correlation between just missing the eight and making it the following season.

If they did, then the Tigers would make the finals every second year and wouldn't have extended their finals drought to 10 years.

The key reason people get excited about late wins is the supposed increase in confidence gained by beating teams either lower or just above you.

The Tigers did beat Adelaide in Adelaide.

But let's remember that Adelaide has been in such crisis this season that it lost by the biggest margin ever, sacked its coach and was in fact two spots lower on the ladder than the Tigers.

Yep, that is something to inspire Richmond through pre-season.

I may be sounding a bit harsh on the Tigers but unfortunately I am speaking from experience.

Thirteen times I played in teams that missed the finals, so I consider myself a bit of an expert in this field.

Dermott Brereton may be an expert in Grand Finals having won five of them, however my numerous missed finals give me credence to talk about the Tigers.

Quite frankly, finishing last on the ladder can be better preparation for the next season than finishing ninth.

You can't hide behind anything with a wooden spoon.

Finishing ninth or 10th, which will happen if they beat the Kangaroos, takes the focus off what really happened to the Tigers in 2011.

They started off like a house on fire, fell in a heap and then came home strongly when the pressure was off.

In Round 2 the Tigers drew with the Saints, who should've beaten Geelong by a comfortable margin in Round 1.

The Tigers were up and about, playing good attacking football with a healthy element of fierceness. This is a positive and shows that their pre-season routines are adequate and prepare the players well.

They then fell away drastically through the middle third of the year.

This is the area that should drive the pre-season – not the junk-time wins, because without it being addressed heavily it will more than likely happen again.

I saw it first-hand so often throughout my career.

Pre-seasons are buoyed by late wins, and time and time again the real reason we missed the finals was glossed over.

No one wanted to revisit the dark days of the past winter to understand just why the team had failed to maintain momentum.

No one wanted to look backwards and make the harsh calls or recognise that the team felt safer out of the spotlight than in it.

No one was honest enough to say that we played well only when the pressure of finals football was gone.

Looking back on late-season good form was much more pleasant than addressing mid-season poor form.

It may be harsh but these are the terrible home truths for teams that regularly miss the finals.

Late wins give everybody at the club a false sense of confidence, not just the players. At the recruiting table there is a tendency to think they are close to being a good side and to postpone hard decisions.

They tend to look for top-up players rather than making wholesale changes, which should be the mantra of any club that fails to make the finals.

It isn't helped by marketing depart­ments that create slogans about how the team is on the brink of greatness and force players to sing from the same songbook in order to bump up the membership.

Nothing makes marketing departments happier than late wins. They are often easier to spin and turn into memberships than finals knockouts.

Richmond will not progress as a club until it sees the late wins as not a tide that will carry it to 2012 glory but rather an indictment on a wasted season.

And that's how harsh and realistic they need to be.

Coming good when the season is done and dusted is in fact an indictment on them as a team and club.

That they couldn't play this sort of football when it counted should be giving them nightmares.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the Tigers haven't had a horrific injury list to contend with, nor a draw excessively weighted against them.

No, they simply failed to perform when the pressure was on and shone when the pressure released. That is a characteristic of all talented teams that regularly just miss the finals.

Along with confidence, the Tigers will also gain some comfort from winning three in a row.

Comfortable sides don't ask the tough questions; they don't make the tough decisions or address the tough issues.

At the Saints we were for too long comfortable with where we sat in the scheme of football.

The "everybody's second team" tag came about because opposition fans felt sorry for us and we posed no threat.

Until we felt ashamed of this, nothing changed.

Do the Tigers players feel ashamed of the "Richmond will finish ninth again" jokes?

I do not know Damien Hardwick well, but what I do know is that he is not a man to shirk a tough situation.

Fans can help him by not getting carried away with junk time.

Let the players know they are capable and must do better; that late wins fool nobody.

This mindset change is the only thing that will end the drought.

http://www.insidefootballonline.com/burke.html

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Re: The junk-time Tigers (Inside Football)
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2011, 06:55:28 AM »
Advice that shouldn't be dismissed

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Re: The junk-time Tigers (Inside Football)
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2011, 07:01:46 AM »
Great article and very even handed. The wins are good but you must learn from the losses
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: The junk-time Tigers (Inside Football)
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2011, 08:15:25 AM »
He may be right but in 1996 St Kilda got some late wins after they won the Night GF that year and by 1997 the hype was all on them. A few early losses and some soul searching later and they had a two goal lead at half time in the 1997 Grand Final.

Same in 2003 when they won 5 of their last 6 against West Coast, Naught, Richmond, Carlton and the Western Bulldogs. All of one being a top 8 side. They were buoyed by that won the NAB Cup and their first 10 games only to miss out in the prelim to Port by 6 points.

Depends which way you look at it and what the attitude and list situation is like. I feel our midfield and forward line with Jack and Vix is looking good and with some additions to the ruck and backline coming back we may just maybe be a handy team.

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Re: The junk-time Tigers (Inside Football)
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2011, 08:22:48 AM »
Great article, Burkey speaks from the heart here.  He is almost pleading us not to make the same mistakes.
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Re: The junk-time Tigers (Inside Football)
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2011, 08:26:45 AM »
Great article, Burkey speaks from the heart here.  He is almost pleading us not to make the same mistakes.

He was an RFC supporter as a kid. :thumbsup

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Re: The junk-time Tigers (Inside Football)
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2011, 08:28:19 AM »
For once a no fluff article from an outsider.. read it tiges and take it on board  :gotigers
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Re: The junk-time Tigers (Inside Football)
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2011, 08:30:43 AM »
Great article, Burkey speaks from the heart here.  He is almost pleading us not to make the same mistakes.

He was an RFC supporter as a kid. :thumbsup
Is that a fact?  Well blow me down with a feather, wouldn't of minded him on our bloody list ...lol
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Re: The junk-time Tigers (Inside Football)
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2011, 10:00:18 AM »
I can see plenty of sense in the article but in the past we have won some late season games but they were on the back of some of our older players lifting rather than off the back of the kids. It could be argued that perhaps Tucky did something similar this year but other than him any win we have had has been lead byt our youthful leadership. This is the difference. Even when TW almost took us to the finals before Browny broke his leg, our success was largely based on the efforts of the older 'average' players who lifted with the new coach and through fear of being delisted.

I think it probably is in our best long term interests to lose this game but it's worth noting the difference if you're quoting history.


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Re: The junk-time Tigers (Inside Football)
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2011, 11:55:52 AM »
Whats the alternative....

Imagine if we did not win a game after beating Brisbane in round 13.

Not all of us would be getting h@rny over the prospect of receiving pick 10 in the national draft.

Richmond supporters desperately needed hope.
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Re: The junk-time Tigers (Inside Football)
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2011, 06:23:34 PM »
Every Tiger supporter knows the 2 games we need to win next year that we didn't this year.

This preseason is THE preseason.

The making of our club.


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Re: The junk-time Tigers (Inside Football)
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2011, 07:30:43 PM »
This article written by that nuff nuff burke would only have a shred of credibility had the side that is facing up on SUNDAY been the same side that finished ninth oh so many times in last 15 years...alas, there are NO more than 2 or 3 players, what is more pertinent is this group facing up on SUNDAY came 14th last year and 15 the season before... :o....awww, didnt fink of it like dat :wallywink
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Re: The junk-time Tigers (Inside Football)
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2011, 08:47:24 PM »
The junk-time Tigers
BURKE'S LAW – NATHAN BURKE
Inside Football


 
If Richmond thinks it has a springboard for 2012, it has another think coming.

Didn't read any further. Get some skills peanut.

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Re: The junk-time Tigers (Inside Football)
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2011, 10:28:49 PM »
LOL harsh Gerks.  Read it all you scooter seat sniffer.
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Re: The junk-time Tigers (Inside Football)
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2011, 10:50:37 PM »
Matthew lloyd on the hd1 show said in best in response to burkes article.

He said burke would be right if it wasnt a young list but richmonds 8 best players are all under 23