Mad Monday

[Go Richo 12]

Wouldn't think we passed anything .how could you justify a "pass mark" really??

I justify a pass mark on improvement and finishing on the ladder about where most pundits, insiders and supporters expected us to finish. We could bang on about who played crap, who got a game when they should not have and the like but we can't delist 20 in one hit and our injuries from the back half were horrific. We are now in front of Melbourne in terms of development and they began a season before us.

[Jackstar is back again]

I ask you a question.
Do you think the gap between say the bottom 12 sides and the top 5 has got greater?
I think it has.
Carlton, West Coast, Geelong, Collingwood and Hawthorn are miles ahead of the rest of the teams.
Keep in mind that West Coast finished bottom last year.
I would say that West Coast is a TICK !( Pass mark )
Out of all the clubs, they are they only club at the moment that get a tick.
Our losses to Carlton, Hawthorn,Gold Coast Port Adelaide and Essendon were extremely poor.

[Owl]

We should find some of the final bits to our team jigsaw puzzle soon though Jack.  Can't get em all in one year so it was always gonna be over a couple.

[Penelope]

c'mon then jacko. taking into account where we were at the start of the season, what would they have to have done to get a pass mark from you?

what, in your opinion, would have been a realistic expectation for the season?

[WilliamPowell]

I would say that West Coast is a TICK !( Pass mark )
Out of all the clubs, they are they only club at the moment that get a tick.

Disagree - would have to say the Bombers (and it pains me to say it) would get a pass make simply based on number of wins 2011 -v- 2010 and the fact they are playing finals

Judging a year can not be based solely on wins/losses IMHO

[Jackstar is back again]

c'mon then jacko. taking into account where we were at the start of the season, what would they have to have done to get a pass mark from you?

what, in your opinion, would have been a realistic expectation for the season?

In my opinion, finish 8th, should never had lost the games against Gold Coast and Port.
Should never have lost on Sunday either., ( Thanks Daniel Jackson )
Therefore no tick !

[Jackstar is back again]

I would say that West Coast is a TICK !( Pass mark )
Out of all the clubs, they are they only club at the moment that get a tick.

Disagree - would have to say the Bombers (and it pains me to say it) would get a pass make simply based on number of wins 2011 -v- 2010 and the fact they are playing finals

Judging a year can not be based solely on wins/losses IMHO

Bombers had an easy draw, no tick there either

[WilliamPowell]

I would say that West Coast is a TICK !( Pass mark )
Out of all the clubs, they are they only club at the moment that get a tick.

Disagree - would have to say the Bombers (and it pains me to say it) would get a pass make simply based on number of wins 2011 -v- 2010 and the fact they are playing finals

Judging a year can not be based solely on wins/losses IMHO

Bombers had an easy draw, no tick there either

You can only go out a beat the teams you are drawn to face Jack - easy draw, tough draw, thems the breaks

I get the feeeling even if we had made the finals you'd still say no tick because you's come up with easy draw, didn't beat enough top 8 sides... as I said you can only beat the teams you are drawn to face

[Jackstar is back again]

As I had said, a tick for us was to finish 8.
also I believe we are a better side than the Bombers and North, although our performances dont suggest that, so no tick.
Amazing Essendon believed they were a Top 4 team half way through the year.
North thought and expected to play finals,

[WilliamPowell]

As I had said, a tick for us was to finish 8.
also I believe we are a better side than the Bombers and North, although our performances dont suggest that, so no tick.
Amazing Essendon believed they were a Top 4 team half way through the year.
North thought and expected to play finals,

So are you saying that prior to the season you were expecting us to finish top 8 = play finals

Not after we won a few games but prior to the season starting you honestly believed were going to make finals?

that's what you are implying. which BTW is staggering because you are constantly telling us our list is crap 

[Jackstar is back again]

As I had said, a tick for us was to finish 8.
also I believe we are a better side than the Bombers and North, although our performances dont suggest that, so no tick.
Amazing Essendon believed they were a Top 4 team half way through the year.
North thought and expected to play finals,

So are you saying that prior to the season you were expecting us to finish top 8 = play finals

Not after we won a few games but prior to the season starting you honestly believed were going to make finals?

that's what you are implying. which BTW is staggering because you are constantly telling us our list is crap 

Yep, our list is crap.
We have no depth.
With any luck with injuries, I expected us to finish 8th...
As I said in another post somewhere, the top 5 clubs have cleared out from the other teams in the comp, we could of easily finished 8th which would of meant a tick.

[WilliamPowell]

Yep, our list is crap.
We have no depth.
With any luck with injuries, I expected us to finish 8th...
As I said in another post somewhere, the top 5 clubs have cleared out from the other teams in the comp, we could of easily finished 8th which would of meant a tick.

Well guess what we didn't exactly have much luck with injury did we

And you've said we've got no depth

So you are saying that even with all the injuries to our back 6 and no depth we still should have made the 8

Don't think you can have it both ways Jack

Our season went south when Grimes in particular went down IMHO

[Jackstar is back again]

doesnt mean its a tick.
If thats the case , we can tick 15 out of the past 30 years
Dropping the games as i mentioned doesnt deserve a tick.
Cant believe we lost to Gold Coast and Port.

[Damo]

Got nothing to celebrate. Should be disappointed they dont have another week of footy left.

Mad monday is BS

Have a heart Damo! The boys basically abstain from alcohol for most of the year so therefore should be allowed to have a mad Monday. A lot of footy trips occur during trade period so it is a last opportunity to have a drink together as a team that played that season. And besides, how many people actually thought we would play finals? Our losses against port and suns hurt us but that can be balanced out by wins we were not expected to get such as freo, swans, bombers etc. so it is reasonable finish and a pass mark for the club.

We should be striving to be the best.

The best sides in the competition are going to play footy for another few weeks.

We are not good enough to be doing that, however we are good enough to be training to work on deficiencies during that period. This could help us close the gap.

I would have the players training during the week as if they were playing finals footy and then watching the games together as a group to get a feeling for what they should be trying to be a part of. I would continue that every week of the finals.

Then on mad monday (after the grand final) they can go and get on the gas and then have a few weeks off before coming back for pre-season.

I dont think they should be in any mood to go out and run amok after the season they had. They should be upset and wanting to be a part of finals footy. Not patting each other on the arse.

Its time Richmond got ruthless.

The extra few weeks hard work wont hurt the playing group.

I would have had them in on Monday reviewing the Nought Melbourne game btw.

[Jackstar is back again]

good post Damo