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Re: The ABC and D's of Richmond FC
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2011, 08:19:59 PM »

I was referring to mcdonald, not edwards.
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Yeah, claw the assessment of development is accurate, and i too hope he comes on. if he makes the grade he will bring a bit of class to the forward line.

I was disappointed he struggled with injury all year. Hopefully we will get a good look at him next year.
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Re: The ABC and D's of Richmond FC
« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2011, 04:24:59 PM »
Usings ramps As. Bs. Cs. (& griff). We could look like this vs the blues:

Morris*. Grimes. Batchelor.
Newman. Rance. Astbury.
Houli. Cotchin. Conca.
Nahas. Griffiths. King.
Deledio. Riewoldt. Vickery.
Maric*. Martin. Foley.
Grigg. #15.* #26.*
+1. Tuck.

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Re: The ABC and D's of Richmond FC
« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2011, 04:43:18 PM »
Coburg.

Dea. Thursfield?  Gourdis? 
Connors?  Mcgaune. Moore? 
Edwards. Jackson. White.
Webberly. Miller. X
derickx. Post. Macdonald.
Browne. Helbig. X
Graham. X. X. X.

+. Pick 55. Pick 73?  Pick 79?  PSD. Rookie/s
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Re: The ABC and D's of Richmond FC
« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2011, 03:50:16 PM »
Updated 27 November 2011

* Based on performance and capacity to impact games. Less emphasis on potential although this is stated as an *


A       [4 PLAYERS]

Trent Cotchin A+
Jack Riewoldt A
Brett Deledio A          * will move higher in coming seasons (Potential A+)
Dustin Martin A-         * will move higher in coming seasons (Potential A+)


B       [5 PLAYERS]

Tyrone Vickery B+      * will move higher in coming seasons (Potential A)
Bachar Houli B
Chris Newman B
Alex Rance B-             * great improvement can see him getting to (Potential B/B+)       
Nathan Foley B-


C         [10 PLAYERS] 

Reece Conca C     * will move higher in coming seasons (Potential A)
Jake Batchelor C   * will move higher in coming seasons (Potential B+)
Dylan Grimes C     * will move higher in coming seasons (Potential B+)
Ivan Maric C          * Addition from Trade Period (Potential B)
Shaun Grigg C
Shane Edwards C
David Astbury C-
Robin Nahas C
Shane Tuck C-
Jake King C-


D           [12 PLAYERS]

Brad Helbig  D+          * will move higher in coming seasons (potential B)
Ben  Griffiths D+         * will move higher in coming seasons (potential A)
Jayden Post D            * will move higher in coming seasons (Potential C)
Luke McGuane D
Daniel Conners D
Daniel Jackson D
Angus Graham D
Matthew White D
Matt Dea D
Jeremy Webberley D
Andrew Brown D
David Gourdis D-


NA        [6 PLAYERS]

Brandon Ellis                  * Hasnt Played Yet
Todd Elton                      * Hasnt Played Yet
Steve Morris                   * Hasnt Played Yet
Tom Derricks                  * Hasnt Played Yet
Kelvin Moore                  * Injured
Dean McDonald              * Hasnt Played Yet


Changes (Out)- Farmer (D rating- Delisted) Thursfield (D Rating - Delisted) Mitch Morton (D- Rating - Traded) Ben Nason (D Rating - Delisted), Troy Talylor - Delisted and Not Rated Previously.
Changes (In)- Maric (C Rating) Morris, Ellis, Elton and Arnot (Havent Played yet)

Overall Changes Players OUT = 4 D Rated Players AND 1 Non Rated (Taylor) have left the club for 1 C grade with potential to go higher and 4 New Players who are yet to show us what they can do.


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Re: The ABC and D's of Richmond FC
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2011, 04:28:59 PM »
Has Farmer been delisted??????????????
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Re: The ABC and D's of Richmond FC
« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2011, 04:56:44 PM »
Yes sir :thumbsup
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Re: The ABC and D's of Richmond FC
« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2011, 04:06:31 AM »
 :cheers :cheers :cheers :cheers :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :cheers :cheers

It poises the question,WTF did they waste game time on him? Would have been better spent playing one of the pre teen Sweedish boys.

Why????
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Re: The ABC and D's of Richmond FC
« Reply #37 on: November 28, 2011, 06:06:42 AM »
Quote from: 10 FLAGS on November 27, 2011, 03:50:16 PM
Updated 27 November 2011

* Based on performance and capacity to impact games. Less emphasis on potential although this is stated as an *


A       [4 PLAYERS]

Trent Cotchin A+
Jack Riewoldt A
Brett Deledio A          * will move higher in coming seasons (Potential A+)
Dustin Martin A-         * will move higher in coming seasons (Potential A+)


B       [5 PLAYERS]

Tyrone Vickery B+      * will move higher in coming seasons (Potential A)
Bachar Houli B
Chris Newman B
Alex Rance B-             * great improvement can see him getting to (Potential B/B+)       
Nathan Foley B-


C         [10 PLAYERS] 

Reece Conca C     * will move higher in coming seasons (Potential A)
Jake Batchelor C   * will move higher in coming seasons (Potential B+)
Dylan Grimes C     * will move higher in coming seasons (Potential B+)
Ivan Maric C          * Addition from Trade Period (Potential B)
Shaun Grigg C
Shane Edwards C
David Astbury C-
Robin Nahas C
Shane Tuck C-
Jake King C-


D           [12 PLAYERS]

Brad Helbig  D+          * will move higher in coming seasons (potential B)
Ben  Griffiths D+         * will move higher in coming seasons (potential A)
Jayden Post D            * will move higher in coming seasons (Potential C)
Luke McGuane D
Daniel Conners D
Daniel Jackson D
Angus Graham D
Matthew White D
Matt Dea D
Jeremy Webberley D
Andrew Brown D
David Gourdis D-


NA        [6 PLAYERS]

Brandon Ellis                  * Hasnt Played Yet
Todd Elton                      * Hasnt Played Yet
Steve Morris                   * Hasnt Played Yet
Tom Derricks                  * Hasnt Played Yet
Kelvin Moore                  * Injured
Dean McDonald              * Hasnt Played Yet


Changes (Out)- Farmer (D rating- Delisted) Thursfield (D Rating - Delisted) Mitch Morton (D- Rating - Traded) Ben Nason (D Rating - Delisted), Troy Talylor - Delisted and Not Rated Previously.
Changes (In)- Maric (C Rating) Morris, Ellis, Elton and Arnot (Havent Played yet)

Overall Changes Players OUT = 4 D Rated Players AND 1 Non Rated (Taylor) have left the club for 1 C grade with potential to go higher and 4 New Players who are yet to show us what they can do.
Pretty spot on analysis there Ramps. It shows the big drop away on our list after our first half-dozen or players. LOL at Jacko's rating. 

The only changes I would make to the above (and this is probably nitpicking) would be that as much as I love Cotch as a footballer he's not A+ yet. I would still have him A- along with Dusty. Both while young guns have yet to tear the competition apart like a Judd or Ablett does in the midfield. Vickery would be a 'B' for mine by as I said it's nitpicking.
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Re: The ABC and D's of Richmond FC
« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2011, 08:02:22 AM »
I think we tend to over value are players a tad especially at the top end.

Riewoldt having won a coleman medal, I consider the only player worthy of an "A" rating, the others ranked with an A I would have as B+

Martin & Cotchin have shown glimpses and improvement, but just yet, have not reached the A level.
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Re: The ABC and D's of Richmond FC
« Reply #39 on: November 28, 2011, 08:22:43 AM »
Cotchin is our best player by a mile. He is worthy of an A
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Re: The ABC and D's of Richmond FC
« Reply #40 on: November 28, 2011, 09:19:43 AM »
Quote from: Sabretooth on November 28, 2011, 08:02:22 AM
I think we tend to over value are players a tad especially at the top end.

Riewoldt having won a coleman medal, I consider the only player worthy of an "A" rating, the others ranked with an A I would have as B+

Martin & Cotchin have shown glimpses and improvement, but just yet, have not reached the A level.

Lids not an A?   :huh
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Re: The ABC and D's of Richmond FC
« Reply #41 on: November 28, 2011, 09:24:29 AM »
Quote from: []())([]™ on November 28, 2011, 04:06:31 AM
:cheers :cheers :cheers :cheers :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :cheers :cheers

It poises the question,WTF did they waste game time on him? Would have been better spent playing one of the pre teen Sweedish boys.

Why????

Who knows man. My question to Ramps is: WTF is Maric doing at C (potential B)??? He's 25/26 and was struggling to play ones last year. If he's got the potential to become a B then Beefcake is at least a C+ already.

not happy with this. not at all
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Re: The ABC and D's of Richmond FC
« Reply #42 on: November 28, 2011, 09:30:50 AM »
Quote from: Davey on November 28, 2011, 09:24:29 AM
Quote from: []())([]™ on November 28, 2011, 04:06:31 AM
:cheers :cheers :cheers :cheers :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :cheers :cheers

It poises the question,WTF did they waste game time on him? Would have been better spent playing one of the pre teen Sweedish boys.

Why????

Who knows man. My question to Ramps is: WTF is Maric doing at C (potential B)??? He's 25/26 and was struggling to play ones last year. If he's got the potential to become a B then Beefcake is at least a C+ already.

not happy with this. not at all

Maric was a D but because his a wog he goes up 1 level  ;D. In all seriousness Maric doesnt have to do much to get in front of go all in and his mate browne, in that instance he starts as a C.  :lol
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Re: The ABC and D's of Richmond FC
« Reply #43 on: November 28, 2011, 09:37:08 AM »
Quote from: Davey on November 28, 2011, 08:22:43 AM
Cotchin is our best player by a mile. He is worthy of an A

Agree. Been re-watching some of our games from this year and he is a class above everyone on the list.
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Re: The ABC and D's of Richmond FC
« Reply #44 on: November 28, 2011, 10:40:59 AM »
Maybe that's the differentiation to make.

A grade on our list, but not quite on the AFL full team list.

eg. Riewoldt makes it to A grade as he was 4th highest averaging scorer last season, whereas Cotchin was 26th on the average possession list. Then again Deledio came in at 14 just below Judd at 12 only averaging half a possession a game less, so I would upgrade my previous grading of him.

To me it depends on where you make the cutoff point statistically for A grade, past performances and what "type" of player.
eg. forwards I'd cutoff quite high, top 5-10, Mids around the 20, Ruckmen 8, the taller Defenders I find harder to qualify as it's often a pure negating role.
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