Draft busts (Bigpond)

[one-eyed]

The media love ancient history....

Draft busts: No.1 picks
By Michael Rogers
Thursday, October 20, 2011
Source: BigPond Sport


Richard Lounder (Richmond, 1987)

The draft was something of a lottery in the days before elite talent pathways and national TV broadcasts, and no No.1 selection was a bigger bust than Lounder. At 204cm and tipping the scales around 115kg, the giant forward from Central Districts landed at Punt Road for the 1988 pre-season after the Tigers took him with the first pick. He spent a year in the reserves building strength and fitness before making his debut in round five, 1989 against North Melbourne. With four goals in a six-goal win over North Melbourne, Lounder made a good first impression. That proved the high point of his VFL career, as he managed a total of three disposals in his next three games. He was dropped after a 10-goal loss to Essendon in round nine and was never seen at senior level again.

Lounder returned to Centrals for the 1990 season where he battled an achilles tendon injury, before heading for the relative obscurity of country footy. He conceded in a 2003 newspaper interview that his motivation to play VFL footy wasn't what it might have been, and that his penchant for a beer had hampered his progress.

Anthony Banik (1989)

Surely after the Lounder disaster, the Tigers would have hit the jackpot with their second attempt at the No.1 pick in three years? Not quite.     Banik was one of the most decorated junior footballers in memory, earning under-16 All Australian selection at age 14 and dominating the under-17 Teal Cup national carnival for two successive years. However, Banik's scope for development was limited when compared to the likes of eventual West Coast champion Peter Matera (pick four) and Essendon's 1993 Brownlow medallist Gavin Wanganeen (pick 12). To his credit, he defied an ongoing battle with chronic fatigue syndrome to play a useful midfield role with the Tigers in the early '90s, before he was delisted at the end of the 1994 season.

Stephen Hooper (1990)
John Hutton (1991)
Clive Waterhouse (1995)

http://www.bigpondsport.com/draft-busts-no.1-picks/tabid/91/newsid/79049/default.aspx

[Coach]

what the eff. get Waterhouse off that list you sick bastards

[tiger101]

I see articles like this done every year before the draft but honestly does anyone care how draft's went over 20 years ago?
Even in the article they admit its nothing like today's analysis on up and coming players

[TigerTimeII]

why does this poo always  come back, and for the record , banik was not that bad, he was good, and if he never got so sick, we would have seen the best of him

[Siberian]

The article also mentions his useful midfield role, long time ago
But I don't recall his leaving the defensive goal square

[eliminator]

Banik was useful player before he became ill.

[Tiger Tragic]

Banik was useful player before he became ill.

That's correct.  He was a back pocket for 98% of his time at Richmond.

I also agree he wasn't too bad (not in the Lounder class).

I think they should put together a list of the top 10 worst articles about top 10 worst draft lists of all time.

[Penelope]

i thought banik was a reasonable footballer. seemed to be on the outer with Northey though.

[WilliamPowell]

why does this poo always  come back, and for the record , banik was not that bad, he was good, and if he never got so sick, we would have seen the best of him

Agree would have been a good player and was before he got ill

His situation wasn't helped by the fact they played him when he was ill

[smasha]

The media really do have a Richmond chip on their shoulders lol.

The more we improve,the more these articles will come out to try to taint us.

MEDIA so full of poo.

THE TIGER IS STIRRING!

[tigs2011]

Banik was useful player before he became ill.

That's correct.  He was a back pocket for 98% of his time at Richmond.

I also agree he wasn't too bad (not in the Lounder class).

I think they should put together a list of the top 10 worst articles about top 10 worst draft lists of all time.

Ill put this at 1. It happened 22 and 24 years ago respectively. Not like either would still be playing 

[one-eyed]

They same Bigpond reporter has now done one on first-round draft busts and of course you know who gets a mention....


Richard Tambling (pick 4, 2004 to Richmond)

Tambling's mix of pace and skill had him touted as a potential No.1 pick midway through 2004, before he eventually fell to Richmond at No.4. In top pick Brett Deledio and Tambling, coach Terry Wallace believed the Tigers' midfield was set up for a decade. Hawthorn selected Lance Franklin with the very next pick and Richmond fans have never forgiven Wallace - and somewhat unfairly, Tambling - for the error of judgement.

What could have been: Lance Franklin (pick 5, Hawthorn).

Note: Richmond's other famous draft bust - the selection of Aaron Fiora at No.4 in 1999 ahead of Matthew Pavlich - is referenced here.

http://www.bigpondsport.com/draft-busts-first-round-picks/tabid/91/newsid/79354/default.aspx

[wayne]

At least they're getting less frequent.... 

[mightytiges]

At least they didn't mention JON as well  .

Hawthorn choosing Mitch Thorp at pick 6 ahead of Joel Selwood, Ben Reid, Jack Riewoldt and Frawley has to be up there.

[one-eyed]

Draft busts: Wasted trades

By Michael Rogers
Friday, November 18, 2011
Source: BigPond Sport


Fitzroy, 1993

It was around this time that the vultures began to circle over the ailing 'Roys. With concerns about Fitzroy's ability to pay its players, the club's stars decided their long-term future might lie elsewhere. Even with all that in mind, the 1993 off-season was a disaster for the Lions. Key midfielder Paul Broderick joined Matthew Dundas, a lively forward, and tall utility Michael Gale in a move to Richmond in exchange for pick no.6 in the national draft. The Lions selected midfielder Trent Cummings, who managed just 27 games in three years. West Coast gave him a second chance in 1997 after the Lions folded, but he played just two more games before being delisted.

In contrast, Broderick managed 169 games in eight years with the Tigers including two finals series, Gale played 91 over four seasons and Dundas 14 in two years. Two out of three ain't bad, and certainly better than Fitzroy's none from one.

What could have been: Brad Johnson (pick 11), Chris Scott (12), Adam Simpson (14)

Richmond, 2004

Tigers fans will know all too well that trade wins such as their 1993 coup are few and far between in the club's history. Take the famous Brad Ottens trade, for example. The 2001 All Australian ruckman had agreed to join Geelong, who stumped up two first-round draft picks for the privilege. Richmond was left in the enviable position of having five of the first 20 picks in that year's draft. Unfortunately for the Tiger Army, they blew four of them including picks no.12 and 16 received for Ottens. Danny Meyer (no.12) lasted three seasons and 17 games before earning a second shot with Port Adelaide, while ruckman Adam Pattison (no.16) spent five years on the list for a return of 61 games, before heading to St Kilda for one final season in 2010.

Combined with the ignominy of overlooking champion forward Lance Franklin at pick no.4 in favour of Richard Tambling, 2004 was a year to forget for everyone involved with the club's list management.

What could have been: Nathan van Berlo (pick 24), Matt Rosa (29), Mark LeCras (37)

http://www.bigpondsport.com/draft-busts-wasted-trades/tabid/91/newsid/80375/default.aspx