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Re: Sliders and Improvers
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2011, 09:52:19 PM »
sportingbet have us at 3.25 to make the 8
they have the skunks at 6.50 to miss the 8. Weak as pee I'll be looking for a better bet than that.
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Re: Sliders and Improvers
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2011, 02:32:53 PM »
What's the rationale for suggesting COllingwood will slide?

They have a young list, good depth, have lost next to nothing and have the hunger that comes from a losing GF.

The only question mark I can see if their new coaching set up.

I would say Geelong are a much greater chance to slide.
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Re: Sliders and Improvers
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2011, 03:07:25 PM »
For me the main rationale comes from what effect the whole saga with Malhouse/Buckley combined with loosing the grand final will have on the club.

It's as much a gut feeling as anything i suppose, but that could be the curry and beer from last night though.

For me to outlay money on it I want long shot odds, as in reality that's what it is, but to me it's not beyond the realms of possibility.
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Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

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yaw rehto eht dellorcs ti fi daer ot reisae eb dluow tI

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Re: Sliders and Improvers
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2011, 03:12:22 PM »
I would leave the Richmond to finish higher than Collingwood bet for another year. Sadly I think the mongrels will be up there again in 2012 :chuck while we still have a young and inexperienced core group.
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Re: Sliders and Improvers
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2011, 06:23:42 PM »
What's the rationale for suggesting COllingwood will slide?

They have a young list, good depth, have lost next to nothing and have the hunger that comes from a losing GF.

The only question mark I can see if their new coaching set up.

I would say Geelong are a much greater chance to slide.

This is clearly the worst post in Internet history, guy. Collingwood have plenty of question marks.

And Dookie says get on Richmond for the top 8.  :gotigers

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Re: Sliders and Improvers
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2012, 07:38:18 PM »
What's the rationale for suggesting COllingwood will slide?

They have a young list, good depth, have lost next to nothing and have the hunger that comes from a losing GF.

The only question mark I can see if their new coaching set up.

I would say Geelong are a much greater chance to slide.

This is clearly the worst post in Internet history, guy. Collingwood have plenty of question marks.

And Dookie says get on Richmond for the top 8.  :gotigers

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Re: Sliders and Improvers
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2012, 08:33:43 PM »
What's the rationale for suggesting COllingwood will slide?

They have a young list, good depth, have lost next to nothing and have the hunger that comes from a losing GF.

The only question mark I can see if their new coaching set up.

I would say Geelong are a much greater chance to slide.

This is clearly the worst post in Internet history, guy. Collingwood have plenty of question marks.

And Dookie says get on Richmond for the top 8.  :gotigers

My New Years resolution is to enter you.

Good luck hot stuff  :burgereater

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Re: Sliders and Improvers
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2012, 12:53:51 PM »
Here's the current top 8 odds:

COLLINGWOOD   1.10       
GEELONG            1.15      
HAWTHORN         1.25      
CARLTON            1.30      
ST KILDA            1.45      
WEST COAST      1.45      
SYDNEY              1.65      
ADELAIDE           1.85   
-------------------------   
ESSENDON         1.85      
NORTH MELB.     1.85      
FREMANTLE        1.90      
RICHMOND         3.25      
MELBOURNE       3.50      
BRISBANE           4.00      
W.BULLDOGS     4.00      
PORT ADEL.      13.00      
GOLD COAST    21.00
G.W.S.             81.00

http://www.tab.com.au/Sports/Betting/PlaceFixedOddsBet.aspx?State=1&LocationCode=0&Competition=101&MeetingType=1

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Re: Sliders and Improvers
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2012, 02:57:32 PM »
Here's the current top 8 odds:

COLLINGWOOD   1.10       
GEELONG            1.15      
HAWTHORN         1.25      
CARLTON            1.30      
ST KILDA            1.45      
WEST COAST      1.45      
SYDNEY              1.65      
ADELAIDE           1.85   
-------------------------   
ESSENDON         1.85      
NORTH MELB.     1.85      
FREMANTLE        1.90      
RICHMOND         3.25      
MELBOURNE       3.50      
BRISBANE           4.00      
W.BULLDOGS     4.00      
PORT ADEL.      13.00      
GOLD COAST    21.00
G.W.S.             81.00

http://www.tab.com.au/Sports/Betting/PlaceFixedOddsBet.aspx?State=1&LocationCode=0&Competition=101&MeetingType=1

I'll have a piece of that -  Richmond, freo and bulldogs.

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Re: Sliders and Improvers
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2012, 05:22:33 PM »
What's the rationale for suggesting COllingwood will slide?

They have a young list, good depth, have lost next to nothing and have the hunger that comes from a losing GF.

The only question mark I can see if their new coaching set up.

I would say Geelong are a much greater chance to slide.

If Buckley or Eddie had any sort of dignity and loved Collingwood knowing how Malthouse had the team going he would have stepped aside and let Mick continue until he wanted to, or Eddie would have seen to it. This saga to a large degree has cost Collingwood the flag in 2011 and Eddie stubborness to see this out will be detrimental to the Skunks. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Add the fact that Watters and Neeld have moved on and Buckley has got blokes with little or no experience at his side with Eade as director of coaching making sure he is doing it all right and its a nice little molotov cocktail there.

Pendlebury signing a one year deal and the rumours on whether he'll join his bro at GWS will add another bad feel to the club this year and with Eddie putting up smokescreens to tell GWS he will make their life hell just adds to the behind the scenes funs at the Nexus Centre which again goes back to the players responding to Mick and what they think of Nayfan.

Yeah Geelong may slide a few rungs too I agree but the Pies may be bigger sliders than some may want to believe or admit at this point in time.

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Re: Sliders and Improvers
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2012, 05:45:37 PM »
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Add the fact that Watters and Neeld have moved on and Buckley has got blokes with little or no experience at his side

yeah, good point tucker
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Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

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Re: Sliders and Improvers
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2012, 06:39:39 PM »
I guess it comes back to how highly you rate coaching as a factor in a teams success.

Being inexperienced didn't seem to hurt Chris Scott.
Who isn't a fan of the thinking man's orange Tim Fleming?

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But you see, it's not me, it's not my family.
In your head, in your head they are fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are crying...

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Re: Sliders and Improvers
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2012, 06:47:16 PM »
yeah, true.
were there many coaching staff changes made at geelong when he started?
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

Yahweh? or the great Clawski?

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Re: Sliders and Improvers
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2012, 06:52:36 PM »
Looking at their website Caracella and Lappin seem to have been there throughout.
Who isn't a fan of the thinking man's orange Tim Fleming?

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But you see, it's not me, it's not my family.
In your head, in your head they are fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are crying...

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Re: Sliders and Improvers
« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2012, 01:55:42 PM »
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2012 Top non-vic team

ADELAIDE 4.00    
BRISBANE    11.00    
FREMANTLE 4.50   
PORT ADELAIDE 101.00     
SYDNEY   3.25    
WEST COAST   2.75    
GOLD COAST   251.00       
GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY   501.00

http://www.tab.com.au/Sports/Betting/PlaceFixedOddsBet.aspx?State=1&LocationCode=0&Competition=101&MeetingType=1

Fremantle at 4.50 is paying nicely if you believe they will bounce back in a big way.