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Re: 10 spots still up for grabs for round 1 side: Leppitsch (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2012, 11:50:00 AM »
just my opinion but i only count 8 who are lock ins. they are players who are clearly in front of everyone else or there are no other real options for the role.

we cant replace deledio, cotchin, martin, foley, in the midfield. we wont replace our captain newman. jack is a lock and id say so is vickery two tall forwards. rance is a lock as quite simply put there is no one else capable or ready to play fb.grimes not ready and only rookieright who looks like a fb.

other than  those 8 id say there is genuine competition for the other spots.

chb - griffiths, astbury. post, mcguane.

third tall - grimes moore darrou, the first two both coming off injuries and may not be right for rnd 1. grimes if fit probably has it locked up as there arent many other options. thats 9 lock ins.

kpf or third tall. - miller, griffiths, elton, astbury.

sml/med defenders - batchelor, dea,ellis, morris, webberley, verrier, heslin.  houli, deledio, they are all not lock ins.deledio and houli are likely to play elswhere. batchelor is coming a good first yr and would have front running. so add batchelor, thats 10 lock ins.

rucks - maric, derikx, graham, brown, based on his record i dont see maric as an automatic selection.

sml/med for.  king, maric, turner, macdonald, ohanlon, connors, conca,  white  most would say king is a lock. but i say hes in competition.conca a part of midfield rotations.

the rest of the mids - ellis, houli, jackson, arnott, nahas, grigg, edwards, helbig, conca,  tuck, probably need 3 to 5 as part of rotations.  nahas houli and tuck have clearly shown their worth over the others. ellis will be given plenty of games and conca will be given games.

so lockins if fit are
b  grimes -  rance -  newman
hb ***** - ***** - batchelor
c  deledio - cotchin - *****
hf ***** - riewoldt - *****
f  vickery -  ***** - *****
r ***** - martin - foley
int/

for me 12 spots up for grabs. theres two or three that are likely but they at least have some competition.

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Re: 10 spots still up for grabs for round 1 side: Leppitsch (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2012, 12:13:18 PM »
2 months from the first game and a bloke who has never even played at this level is a "lock in" as far as the coaches are concerned, based on pre-season training?

I would be both surprised and disappointed if that was the case.

Why? they have guarantee Maric a game Round 1, and last time I seen him, he cant play

Once again you muddy the waters with red herrings.

that is your opinion of Maric which differs from the club's. he has at least traded his wares at AFL level and the club believes he can play otherwise they wouldnt have targeted and traded for him.

Morris has not even kicked a ball in anger at AFl level, not even a practice match.
He is untried and unknown, at this point.

That is the difference.

Can you tell me what Morris has done that would guarantee him a game come rnd 1, regardless of NAB cup form?

Just out of curiosity, are you one of the people who questioned giving traded recruits like houli, grigg and maric low numbers because you felt they hadn't earned them?

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Re: 10 spots still up for grabs for round 1 side: Leppitsch (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2012, 01:20:37 PM »
facts are the Maric was extremely poor at the Crows.
fact

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Re: 10 spots still up for grabs for round 1 side: Leppitsch (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2012, 01:21:47 PM »
facts are the Maric was extremely poor at the Crows.
fact

How could that possibly be a 'fact'?

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Re: 10 spots still up for grabs for round 1 side: Leppitsch (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2012, 01:29:22 PM »
3 kicks 2 marks as an average per game over 6 years.
70 odd games in that period.

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Re: 10 spots still up for grabs for round 1 side: Leppitsch (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2012, 02:10:45 PM »
Oh, I now i get it. sorry for being slow on the uptake Jacky boy.

Q: What has Morris done to earn a spot rnd one, 2 months out, regardless of NAB cup form?

A: Maric averaged 3 kicks and 2 marks while at the crows.
 
I cant believe the penny didn't drop sooner.
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Re: 10 spots still up for grabs for round 1 side: Leppitsch (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2012, 02:15:51 PM »
2 months from the first game and a bloke who has never even played at this level is a "lock in" as far as the coaches are concerned, based on pre-season training?

I would be both surprised and disappointed if that was the case.

Why? they have guarantee Maric a game Round 1, and last time I seen him, he cant play

Once again you muddy the waters with red herrings.

that is your opinion of Maric which differs from the club's. he has at least traded his wares at AFL level and the club believes he can play otherwise they wouldnt have targeted and traded for him.

Morris has not even kicked a ball in anger at AFl level, not even a practice match.
He is untried and unknown, at this point.

That is the difference.

Can you tell me what Morris has done that would guarantee him a game come rnd 1, regardless of NAB cup form?

Just out of curiosity, are you one of the people who questioned giving traded recruits like houli, grigg and maric low numbers because you felt they hadn't earned them?

a month away and big Al is at it again.

So okay Morris hasnt performed at AFL level. WHO gives a toss. Neither has most other untried new recruits yet a fair few still play rd 1.

If they show pre season form then they deserve every chance to play.

Jackon as an example doesn't perform at training yet still gets gifted games so your theory is well flawed.



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Re: 10 spots still up for grabs for round 1 side: Leppitsch (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2012, 02:18:06 PM »
Oh, I now i get it. sorry for being slow on the uptake Jacky boy.

Q: What has Morris done to earn a spot rnd one, 2 months out, regardless of NAB cup form?

A: Maric averaged 3 kicks and 2 marks while at the crows.
 
I cant believe the penny didn't drop sooner.
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Hardwick quoted the following, ''Maric was assured of getting a game round 1, unless he broke his leg

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Re: 10 spots still up for grabs for round 1 side: Leppitsch (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2012, 02:20:58 PM »
2 months from the first game and a bloke who has never even played at this level is a "lock in" as far as the coaches are concerned, based on pre-season training?

I would be both surprised and disappointed if that was the case.

Why? they have guarantee Maric a game Round 1, and last time I seen him, he cant play

Once again you muddy the waters with red herrings.

that is your opinion of Maric which differs from the club's. he has at least traded his wares at AFL level and the club believes he can play otherwise they wouldnt have targeted and traded for him.

Morris has not even kicked a ball in anger at AFl level, not even a practice match.
He is untried and unknown, at this point.

That is the difference.

Can you tell me what Morris has done that would guarantee him a game come rnd 1, regardless of NAB cup form?

Just out of curiosity, are you one of the people who questioned giving traded recruits like houli, grigg and maric low numbers because you felt they hadn't earned them?

a month away and big Al is at it again.

So okay Morris hasnt performed at AFL level. WHO gives a toss. Neither has most other untried new recruits yet a fair few still play rd 1.

If they show pre season form then they deserve every chance to play.

Jackon as an example doesn't perform at training yet still gets gifted games so your theory is well flawed.

sorry daniel, I didn't realise english was your second language.
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Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

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Re: 10 spots still up for grabs for round 1 side: Leppitsch (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2012, 02:22:31 PM »
Oh, I now i get it. sorry for being slow on the uptake Jacky boy.

Q: What has Morris done to earn a spot rnd one, 2 months out, regardless of NAB cup form?

A: Maric averaged 3 kicks and 2 marks while at the crows.
 
I cant believe the penny didn't drop sooner.
 ::)


Hardwick quoted the following, ''Maric was assured of getting a game round 1, unless he broke his leg

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...and here i was thinking we were talking about Morris
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And my thoughts than your thoughts."

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Re: 10 spots still up for grabs for round 1 side: Leppitsch (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #40 on: January 21, 2012, 03:59:05 PM »
 Am pretty sure Jacky boy is the one who once posted he was stupid and knew nothing about football Al (soneones sig). So dont get too worked up
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Re: 10 spots still up for grabs for round 1 side: Leppitsch (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #41 on: January 21, 2012, 05:05:40 PM »
Am pretty sure Jacky boy is the one who once posted he was stupid and knew nothing about football Al (soneones sig). So dont get too worked up

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Re: 10 spots still up for grabs for round 1 side: Leppitsch (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #42 on: January 21, 2012, 05:26:34 PM »
2 months from the first game and a bloke who has never even played at this level is a "lock in" as far as the coaches are concerned, based on pre-season training?

I would be both surprised and disappointed if that was the case.

Why? they have guarantee Maric a game Round 1, and last time I seen him, he cant play

Once again you muddy the waters with red herrings.

that is your opinion of Maric which differs from the club's. he has at least traded his wares at AFL level and the club believes he can play otherwise they wouldnt have targeted and traded for him.

Morris has not even kicked a ball in anger at AFl level, not even a practice match.
He is untried and unknown, at this point.

That is the difference.

Can you tell me what Morris has done that would guarantee him a game come rnd 1, regardless of NAB cup form?

Just out of curiosity, are you one of the people who questioned giving traded recruits like houli, grigg and maric low numbers because you felt they hadn't earned them?

a month away and big Al is at it again.

So okay Morris hasnt performed at AFL level. WHO gives a toss. Neither has most other untried new recruits yet a fair few still play rd 1.

If they show pre season form then they deserve every chance to play.

Jackon as an example doesn't perform at training yet still gets gifted games so your theory is well flawed.

sorry daniel, I didn't realise english was your second language.

personal insults always a great deflection.

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Re: 10 spots still up for grabs for round 1 side: Leppitsch (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #43 on: January 21, 2012, 07:22:19 PM »
just my opinion but i only count 8 who are lock ins. they are players who are clearly in front of everyone else or there are no other real options for the role.

we cant replace deledio, cotchin, martin, foley, in the midfield. we wont replace our captain newman. jack is a lock and id say so is vickery two tall forwards. rance is a lock as quite simply put there is no one else capable or ready to play fb.grimes not ready and only rookieright who looks like a fb.

other than  those 8 id say there is genuine competition for the other spots.

chb - griffiths, astbury. post, mcguane.

third tall - grimes moore darrou, the first two both coming off injuries and may not be right for rnd 1. grimes if fit probably has it locked up as there arent many other options. thats 9 lock ins.

kpf or third tall. - miller, griffiths, elton, astbury.

sml/med defenders - batchelor, dea,ellis, morris, webberley, verrier, heslin.  houli, deledio, they are all not lock ins.deledio and houli are likely to play elswhere. batchelor is coming a good first yr and would have front running. so add batchelor, thats 10 lock ins.

rucks - maric, derikx, graham, brown, based on his record i dont see maric as an automatic selection.

sml/med for.  king, maric, turner, macdonald, ohanlon, connors, conca,  white  most would say king is a lock. but i say hes in competition.conca a part of midfield rotations.

the rest of the mids - ellis, houli, jackson, arnott, nahas, grigg, edwards, helbig, conca,  tuck, probably need 3 to 5 as part of rotations.  nahas houli and tuck have clearly shown their worth over the others. ellis will be given plenty of games and conca will be given games.

so lockins if fit are
b  grimes -  rance -  newman
hb ***** - ***** - batchelor
c  deledio - cotchin - *****
hf ***** - riewoldt - *****
f  vickery -  ***** - *****
r ***** - martin - foley
int/

for me 12 spots up for grabs. theres two or three that are likely but they at least have some competition.

 i reckon that one B Houli will play round 1 and right on through till round 23
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Re: 10 spots still up for grabs for round 1 side: Leppitsch (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #44 on: January 21, 2012, 07:39:53 PM »
2 months from the first game and a bloke who has never even played at this level is a "lock in" as far as the coaches are concerned, based on pre-season training?

I would be both surprised and disappointed if that was the case.

Why? they have guarantee Maric a game Round 1, and last time I seen him, he cant play

Once again you muddy the waters with red herrings.

that is your opinion of Maric which differs from the club's. he has at least traded his wares at AFL level and the club believes he can play otherwise they wouldnt have targeted and traded for him.

Morris has not even kicked a ball in anger at AFl level, not even a practice match.
He is untried and unknown, at this point.

That is the difference.

Can you tell me what Morris has done that would guarantee him a game come rnd 1, regardless of NAB cup form?

Just out of curiosity, are you one of the people who questioned giving traded recruits like houli, grigg and maric low numbers because you felt they hadn't earned them?

a month away and big Al is at it again.

So okay Morris hasnt performed at AFL level. WHO gives a toss. Neither has most other untried new recruits yet a fair few still play rd 1.

If they show pre season form then they deserve every chance to play.

Jackon as an example doesn't perform at training yet still gets gifted games so your theory is well flawed.

sorry daniel, I didn't realise english was your second language.

personal insults always a great deflection.

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If you had slagged off at me about the topic being discussed i may have bothered to respond properly, but we were not discussing if Morris would actually play rnd 1, just if he was already a lock in to do so according to the coaches. You either didn't bother to read the thread or couldn't comprehend what was being said.
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Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

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