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Richmond 2012 preview (from the red and dark side)
« on: February 08, 2012, 03:34:26 PM »
Essendon fans on BB have a thread going about us in 2012.......

http://www.bomberblitz.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=64029

1st preview by poster 'AllBlack'

So we are getting to the interesting teams. I think footy is more fun with a competitive Richmond. They have looked for the last couple of years like something is building and the culture there is changing but whether enough has happened to see some genuine movement up the ladder may be a different story.

It is hard not to rate Hardwick as a coach. He has changed the mentality at Tigerland, they look a better unit. He has asserted himself in a short time, performs well in the media and has taken control of the Tigers. The thing though is he has yet to produce the results and we know the Tigers have an expectation of success whether it is merited or not. Hardwick will have some pressure on him this year.

The backline is a headache. The conceded the third most points of any team last year and will be hoping natural development of some of their young KP defenders may start to curb that but will be some serious question around whether players like Post, Astbury and Webberly are up to it. Moore and McGuane are too short to play on the big guys and constantly monstered. They need some young KP talent to step up this year in a big way. I thought Rance was ok last year but he played everywhere. Newman is reliable as is Deledio in drive from the backline. Houli was good for them last year and played well as a loose man down back. Still a long way to go down back and a lot of worries for Richmond fans.

The Tigers have obviously focused on stocking up on midfield talent and you can see the benefits. Conca will be better again this year as will Cotchin if he can stay fit. Martin is a monster and despite predictions he might not have as much upside as others, he has a competitive instinct and will just get better. Will be interesting to see how Tuck is treated this year. They seem determined to move past him and he seems determined to stay in the team, he is in their best 22 now but not in their next premiership team. I thought Grigg was a handy pick up for them last year. Deledio needs to spend more time in the middle as well. If Foley can stay on the track he should be better this year as well and his best is excellent. Jackson plays his role as well as anyone and is winning more ball. They need the midfield to click this year and give them some dominance to make up for shortfalls at either end.

The forward line is a one man show. Reiwoldt fires and they look like world beaters. He is injured or off his game and it becomes worrying. Vickery showed he is developing well last year and should improve further although I think he is more of a ruckman who rests forward rather than a forward who can help out in the ruck. The talk from Richmond is they want him to be a ruckman. King and Nahas do a bit of damage from a smalls perspective but all in all they are going to need a chop out from their mids to kick winning scores on a regular basis.

The rucks are a bit of a struggle. Maric has been brought in for his tap work but doesnt give enough around the ground. Graham looked a good prospect but fell away last year. Vickery is the long term plan but is still young and finding his feet, I think he will be good eventually but isnt ready just yet to be the number one ruck. Browne is a big kid but the game seems to happen around him and he doesnt have much influence although that may improve with experience.

I worry for the Tigers and where their improvement will come from. They have built a very good young midfield but we have seen other teams do that and unless you have the forward and backs to support them, you are leaving too much to too few. They lack overall depth and I would be surprised to see them move up the table this year. A slight drop is even possible. 11-14 for mine looks about their mark.

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Re: Richmond 2012 preview (from the red and dark side)
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2012, 04:25:39 PM »
Ive enjoyed reading their comments- If anything it shows how Little they think of our playing group and our club judging by some of those comments.
For eg:

Club should be shut down & moved to Tasmania.
Its their only hope.
Start again.""

and...

"Houli is one of the tigers better players. As long as that remains the case they are going absolutely no where near September. "


I would like to silence the critics this year  :shh whoa
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Re: Richmond 2012 preview (from the red and dark side)
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2012, 04:47:59 PM »
Interesting to get a filthy Bumber supporters point of view.

Maybe it's bias, but I see more scope for improvement for us than the Bumbers. Hurley will get better, but Bumber fans already think he's better than Carey. I see guys like Monfries, Davey, Stanton and Melksham as ordinary players who have peaked physically, their versions of Pettifer, Tivendale, Hyde and Tambling. They can outsmart, outlast and outbody a kid, but their ceiling is very low and they'll end up list cloggers.

He's right about the backline, but it is improving. Morris is hopefully our Milne, Betts, Ballantyne stopper. Batch is a gun in the making and Grimes will be back.

Everyone knows our rucks are rubbish. Hopefully Maric can get us first use a bit more often and also stop the opposition rucks from winning so many easy taps.

Ive enjoyed reading their comments- If anything it shows how Little they think of our playing group and our club judging by some of those comments.
For eg:

Club should be shut down & moved to Tasmania.
Its their only hope.
Start again.""

and...

"Houli is one of the tigers better players. As long as that remains the case they are going absolutely no where near September. "


I would like to silence the critics this year  :shh whoa

For all the Bumber gloating and trolling of us, we still have the wood over them  ;D
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Re: Richmond 2012 preview (from the red and dark side)
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2012, 05:46:17 PM »
Isn't it odd that it's only ever Bummer fans that don't think Houli is any good  :laugh:

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Re: Richmond 2012 preview (from the red and dark side)
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2012, 05:54:29 PM »
Isn't it odd that it's only ever Bummer fans that don't think Houli is any good  :laugh:

bit like Richmond supporters who say Schulz hasn't done anything since getting traded

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Re: Richmond 2012 preview (from the red and dark side)
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2012, 06:00:22 PM »
How dare you undermine me  >:(

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Re: Richmond 2012 preview (from the red and dark side)
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2012, 06:01:53 PM »
You look weird  >:(

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Re: Richmond 2012 preview (from the red and dark side)
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2012, 06:21:40 PM »
Isn't it odd that it's only ever Bummer fans that don't think Houli is any good  :laugh:

bit like Richmond supporters who say Schulz hasn't done anything since getting traded

Schulz has done sweet FA since leaving  :huh Butcher will keep him out of that side for good now.......

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Re: Richmond 2012 preview (from the red and dark side)
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2012, 06:35:03 PM »
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Re: Richmond 2012 preview (from the red and dark side)
« Reply #7 on: Today at 06:21:40 PM »

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Very few Essendon fans have a clue it seems. Fans should stick to talking about their own sides unless they watching other clubs on a regular basis

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Re: Richmond 2012 preview (from the red and dark side)
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2012, 10:41:48 PM »
Jackson plays his role as well as anyone and is winning more ball.

Enter TBR  ;D

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Re: Richmond 2012 preview (from the red and dark side)
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2012, 11:02:42 PM »
Isn't it odd that it's only ever Bummer fans that don't think Houli is any good  :laugh:

bit like Richmond supporters who say Schulz hasn't done anything since getting traded

Haha touche.

FWIW I do not rate the Bombers. No finals action for them.
We're more likely.

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Re: Richmond 2012 preview (from the red and dark side)
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2012, 06:58:02 AM »
SOme funny stuff in that "review" (and I use that term loosely)  ;D
"Oh yes I am a dreamer, I still see us flying high!"

from the song "Don't Walk Away" by Pat Benatar 1988 (Wide Awake In Dreamland)

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Re: Richmond 2012 preview (from the red and dark side)
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2012, 02:40:21 PM »
some more dribble about Lids in this one:

http://www.bomberblitz.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=63933
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Re: Richmond 2012 preview (from the red and dark side)
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2012, 04:21:23 PM »
some more dribble about Lids in this one:

http://www.bomberblitz.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=63933

I lol'd


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Re: Richmond 2012 preview (from the red and dark side)
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2012, 05:11:56 PM »
They had me at that too, what i l thought was laughable was their survey...
top 4,6,8 finish?? out of the 8?? or as bad as richmond??

Cant wait to steamroll these pretenders  :shh
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