Author Topic: Hardwick's next contract discussion [merged]  (Read 14098 times)

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Re: No heat on Tiger coach Damien Hardwick (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2012, 12:24:32 AM »
I think it was On the Couch tonight, the stooges were showing footage of Dimma in the closing moments of both of our Nob Cup games and were saying crap like "that's a coach with his career in the balance" or something like that. It's only opposition supporters and journos who are saying stuff about Dimma. I remember the end of last year my boss saying junk like "no finals next year for you lot and Dimma will be under the pump."  :huh is my reaction. Today was good. Since my boss is a bumbling bummer I was just giving him crap all day, asking him what round will he turn on Hird.

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Re: No heat on Tiger coach Damien Hardwick (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2012, 05:20:26 AM »
No doubt Hardwick needs results to go his way this year. A few early indications that they will which is great.

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Re: No heat on Tiger coach Damien Hardwick (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2012, 06:58:32 AM »
No doubt Hardwick needs results to go his way this year.

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Seems a lot think this way; not quite sure why

Results alone aren't going to determine Dimma's fate

No a doubt in my mind he will get an extension not a case of "if" but when  ;D
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Re: No heat on Tiger coach Damien Hardwick (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2012, 07:19:17 AM »
how many years will he get, WP? Personally I'll be slightly annoyed if he gets two years if we don't win at least 10 games.

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Re: No heat on Tiger coach Damien Hardwick (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2012, 07:47:15 AM »
I think that they will sign him up before the season starts.  A 2 year extension seems reasonable as a longer term will give Dimma the room for complacency and will have a Wallet like destructive effect.  With Lids out of contract they wont take the risk of waiting till the end of the year.
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Re: No heat on Tiger coach Damien Hardwick (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2012, 08:30:37 AM »
how many years will he get, WP? Personally I'll be slightly annoyed if he gets two years if we don't win at least 10 games.

Coach, I reckon he will get a 2 year extension and I think they will do it by mid season (say July). Just my gut feel on it

As I said wins aren't going to be the only determining factor


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Re: No heat on Tiger coach Damien Hardwick (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2012, 10:29:57 AM »
I can just imagine the journo's on Friday night after NAB 1.

Putting the finishing touches to their 'Hardwick position untenable' stories after the inevitable loss to the Dawks.

Instead they had to crucify Conca.
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Re: No heat on Tiger coach Damien Hardwick (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2012, 10:33:23 AM »
No doubt Hardwick needs results to go his way this year.

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Seems a lot think this way; not quite sure why

Results alone aren't going to determine Dimma's fate

No a doubt in my mind he will get an extension not a case of "if" but when  ;D

You're right, results alone won't seal his fate but no doubt it will play a part.
If you don't think so, you're being a little deluded.

The club goes backwards this year (in more ways than one) and he's no guarantees.
Club is rightly taking a wait and see approach to things.
No rush.

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Re: No heat on Tiger coach Damien Hardwick (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2012, 11:17:12 AM »
You're right, results alone won't seal his fate but no doubt it will play a part.
If you don't think so, you're being a little deluded.

The club goes backwards this year (in more ways than one) and he's no guarantees.
Club is rightly taking a wait and see approach to things.
No rush.

Not deluded at all in any form

Just think he will get a contract extension depsite the results. They will play a part but not as big as what the media is making out
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Re: No heat on Tiger coach Damien Hardwick (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2012, 12:34:34 PM »
Just think he will get a contract extension depsite the results.

So if the wheels fall off and we've only had one or two wins at the bye they'll still be re-signing him regardless?

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Re: No heat on Tiger coach Damien Hardwick (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2012, 12:50:03 PM »
Just think he will get a contract extension depsite the results.

So if the wheels fall off and we've only had one or two wins at the bye they'll still be re-signing him regardless?

My gut feel is it will be done before the BYE.

And if we are only 2 wins by the Bye but the losses have only been by a coupleo f goals I reckon that will be enough
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Re: No heat on Tiger coach Damien Hardwick (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2012, 01:02:41 PM »
My gut feel is it will be done before the BYE.

And if we are only 2 wins by the Bye but the losses have only been by a coupleo f goals I reckon that will be enough

Generous.

What if we have been tuned by 80-100 points in 4 games?

I don't think that will in anyway happen but if it does I would be disappointed if we didn't at least make him reapply for his job.
Personally don't think the wheels will fall off so think Dimma will be re-signed but nothing is certain in football.

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Re: No heat on Tiger coach Damien Hardwick (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2012, 01:05:29 PM »
No doubt Hardwick needs results to go his way this year.

 :-\ :-\

Seems a lot think this way; not quite sure why

Results alone aren't going to determine Dimma's fate

No a doubt in my mind he will get an extension not a case of "if" but when  ;D

I agree William.


With the list he's had to work with and looking at them now going toe to toe with a flag favourite the other night,he is the man for the job.

I hope they sign him up real soon.

A double signing to be announced Family Day.

Dimma and Lids!!
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Re: No heat on Tiger coach Damien Hardwick (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2012, 01:53:32 PM »
Generous.

What if we have been tuned by 80-100 points in 4 games?

I don't think that will in anyway happen but if it does I would be disappointed if we didn't at least make him reapply for his job.
Personally don't think the wheels will fall off so think Dimma will be re-signed but nothing is certain in football.

I suppose for me it also comes down to where i think our list is at right now. I still think we have a long way to go with another big clean out due at the end of the season.

He's shown he's prepared to do that and that's just one of the things I reckon that falls outside of results that will be taken into consideration (rightly or wrongly)

As I said my gut feel is he will be re-signed sooner rather than later. Never at any point said I agree with it just that I reckon that's what will happen  ;D

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Re: No heat on Tiger coach Damien Hardwick (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2012, 03:23:21 PM »
Generous.

What if we have been tuned by 80-100 points in 4 games?

I don't think that will in anyway happen but if it does I would be disappointed if we didn't at least make him reapply for his job.
Personally don't think the wheels will fall off so think Dimma will be re-signed but nothing is certain in football.

I suppose for me it also comes down to where i think our list is at right now. I still think we have a long way to go with another big clean out due at the end of the season.

He's shown he's prepared to do that and that's just one of the things I reckon that falls outside of results that will be taken into consideration (rightly or wrongly)

Personally I think our list is better than you're crediting it for this season and we're in the mix with a number of teams to even possibly etch out a finals birth.

Poor results would not be satisfactory in 2012. A poor result for me ladder wise would be a bottom 5 finish.

Dimma has to show that the players are grasping the game plan and developing individually and as a team.

If we do that the results will be consequential. If not they will also be consequential.

The list rebuild will continue regardless of who the coach is but ultimately this season wins matter more for Dimma than they have the past two seasons.

I reiterate that I am a Hardwick fan but this season he is more accountable for Richmond's performances than the last two. In my opinion of course.