Richmond - Soft in the centre (Age)

[Ruanaidh]

Well we have played 2 of the top 4 teams in the comp. Were we expected to win these midfield battles? 

And we have only a possible 9% of stats for 2012 to work on

It is more the downward trend over the past few years as opposed to this year

What Y&B said ... Also if we aspire to be "one of the top 4" we have to start winning these midfield battles - at least once in awhile.

Yes that is true but i think with 90.09% of the season left, these figures will improve.

Fair enough

[MADTIGER2010]

Pity Helbig is injured. I'd like to see him and Arnot take Jacko and Tucks spots pretty soon. We'll add midfield depth in this years draft too. Jacko is letting me down at the moment. I though he got rid of those sprayed kicks last year 

[Darth Tiger]

Damn Stats and Damning Stats.

Definately the latter for the RFC.

HTFU, the Tiges will not be a top 8 side with performances put up so far against other 2012 top 6 sides.

As for Jackson, that should be roll, not role.

[Hellenic Tiger]

Pity Helbig is injured. I'd like to see him and Arnot take Jacko and Tucks spots pretty soon. We'll add midfield depth in this years draft too. Jacko is letting me down at the moment. I though he got rid of those sprayed kicks last year 

Disagree even though Tuck is maligned he is always in the coalface.

Jako sprayed kicks aren't the only problem he is slow at the contest and never seems to know where the ball is going to drop so he aint helping contested stats.

Unfortunantely bar Cotchin in the first two rounds it has been a blight on the rest of our mids and as damning as it sounds it is pretty correct.

I can remember thinking and posting on here two years as did many others on the topic of our contested midfield and how it was going to get better in a contested sense with Cotch and blokes like Martin in there also but alas other than Cotch and cameos from Dusty in that area and cameos from others we have gone backwards in contested footy.

We prayed for a ruckman and got a competitive beast in Ivan and in the first two rounds the trend hasn't changed from last year either. Lift tigers lift.

[one-eyed]

Tiger mids needs to remember that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. Any one of them can't win a clearance on their own (Cotch perhaps the exception). Blocking and shepherding to create avenues for the ballwinner and pushing your direct opponent under the ball so you can push off and spread are just as important at stoppages and centre bounces.

[RollsRoyce]

Soft in the middle? Ranked 18th for clearance differentials? 17th for contested possession? A decline from 5th in these areas since early 2010? Gee, I thought Jackson and Tuck were supposed to be toughening us up in these areas. If Jacko in particular isn't providing much cop in his supposed hardness at the ball, then why are we putting up with all his glaring deficiencies in other aspects of the game such as his slowness of mind, lack of leg speed, poor decision-making and bad execution by hand and foot?

[Hellenic Tiger]

Tiger mids needs to remember that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. Any one of them can't win a clearance on their own (Cotch perhaps the exception). Blocking and shepherding to create avenues for the ballwinner and pushing your direct opponent under the ball so you can push off and spread are just as important at stoppages and centre bounces.

What are Jako's and Edwards roles again.

Edwards put on kilo's so he wasn't brushed aside like a featherweight the way Milburn rag dolled him in 2008.

Is there a coaching mantra at the club that gets passed on b/c things like this I see only too seldomly.

[wayne]

Playing the 2 best midfields in the league in the first 2 rounds might skew the stats a little, but it is an area we have been weak in for a long time.

[Loui Tufga]

Tiger mids needs to remember that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. Any one of them can't win a clearance on their own (Cotch perhaps the exception). Blocking and shepherding to create avenues for the ballwinner and pushing your direct opponent under the ball so you can push off and spread are just as important at stoppages and centre bounces.

Great Post OE This is exactly the area we have too get better at, There is not enough Shepparding, blocking and covering someone else's opponent! Our midfield is full of talented individual's but they need to work better as a team.

[tony_montana]

Tiger mids needs to remember that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. Any one of them can't win a clearance on their own (Cotch perhaps the exception). Blocking and shepherding to create avenues for the ballwinner and pushing your direct opponent under the ball so you can push off and spread are just as important at stoppages and centre bounces.

Great Post OE This is exactly the area we have too get better at, There is not enough Shepparding, blocking and covering someone else's opponent! Our midfield is full of talented individual's but they need to work better as a team.

1995 was the last time I saw a tiger unit in action, since then it's been disjointed play for yourself rubbish

[Penelope]

Soft in the middle? Ranked 18th for clearance differentials? 17th for contested possession? A decline from 5th in these areas since early 2010? Gee, I thought Jackson and Tuck were supposed to be toughening us up in these areas. If Jacko in particular isn't providing much cop in his supposed hardness at the ball, then why are we putting up with all his glaring deficiencies in other aspects of the game such as his slowness of mind, lack of leg speed, poor decision-making and bad execution by hand and foot?

in fairness to tuck, he didnt play much of last and year and when he did come into side in the later part of the season he did help improve our contested possessions and clearances

[Penelope]

Tiger mids needs to remember that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. Any one of them can't win a clearance on their own (Cotch perhaps the exception). Blocking and shepherding to create avenues for the ballwinner and pushing your direct opponent under the ball so you can push off and spread are just as important at stoppages and centre bounces.

What are Jako's and Edwards roles again.

Edwards put on kilo's so he wasn't brushed aside like a featherweight the way Milburn rag dolled him in 2008.

Is there a coaching mantra at the club that gets passed on b/c things like this I see only too seldomly.

I know, im a sucker for punishmnet...
edwards and martins stats for clearances and contested ball are nearly identical for our first two games.
 
Read into that what you will

[tony_montana]

Tiger mids needs to remember that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. Any one of them can't win a clearance on their own (Cotch perhaps the exception). Blocking and shepherding to create avenues for the ballwinner and pushing your direct opponent under the ball so you can push off and spread are just as important at stoppages and centre bounces.

What are Jako's and Edwards roles again.

Edwards put on kilo's so he wasn't brushed aside like a featherweight the way Milburn rag dolled him in 2008.

Is there a coaching mantra at the club that gets passed on b/c things like this I see only too seldomly.

I know, im a sucker for punishmnet...
edwards and martins stats for clearances and contested ball are nearly identical for our first two games.
 
Read into that what you will

That Martin is in career worst form and Edwards is going at optimum capacity?

Yep

[Francois Jackson]

Martin, Vickery, Edwards and Jackson are our worst performing players in the first 3 rounds IMO

[Loui Tufga]

Martin, Vickery, Edwards and Jackson are our worst performing players in the first 3 rounds IMO

Agree, Martin is lacking confidence big time. He came into the game a little toward the end today, hopefully that big don argue he put on Bate and his run around the boundary will spark him into gear