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Re: Cloke??
« Reply #570 on: August 10, 2012, 02:53:06 PM »
I see you have increased your view on what cloke is worth WAT.
you would be an auctioneers dream.

What collonwoood have offered is a fair offer IMO.

$1m for 5 years is a big price and he would want to earn it if someone paid it, particularly if that someone was us

No I have increased my view on what a GF is worth.

Whats 200k difference, is it the difference in money or flag prospects al??

BTW Every player we recruit has the "average return" prospect, 3 years or 5 years, not much difference, look what we have been stuck with in the past...some for longer  than 5 years and no where near the calibre of Cloke. An average day out for Cloke is a great day out for a few of our current players.
3 years 5 years not much difference? Hmm
I cant see how past mistakes is a justification for anything, not that we have ever signed anyone up for longer than five years that I can recall.
I thought your assessment of what you thought cloke would be worth paying a few pages back was fair, but now it's increased by 20%. Is there an upper limit to his worth, or is it simply impossible to pay too much for such a superstar?
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Re: Cloke??
« Reply #571 on: August 10, 2012, 03:04:05 PM »
FFS lets just pay him 2mil a season and get rid of Martin and Cotchin while were at it  :lol
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Re: Cloke??
« Reply #572 on: August 10, 2012, 03:06:50 PM »
Whats 200k difference, is it the difference in money or flag prospects al??

Difference in money. I don't think paying Cloke 1m instead of 800k is going to make our flag prospects higher

Thats not what I meant... paying another 200k to get a player that could be the difference between a flag and not winning a flag is what I meant. Sorry I thought that was clear... :-\
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Re: Cloke??
« Reply #573 on: August 10, 2012, 03:13:07 PM »
I see you have increased your view on what cloke is worth WAT.
you would be an auctioneers dream.

What collonwoood have offered is a fair offer IMO.

$1m for 5 years is a big price and he would want to earn it if someone paid it, particularly if that someone was us

No I have increased my view on what a GF is worth.

Whats 200k difference, is it the difference in money or flag prospects al??

BTW Every player we recruit has the "average return" prospect, 3 years or 5 years, not much difference, look what we have been stuck with in the past...some for longer  than 5 years and no where near the calibre of Cloke. An average day out for Cloke is a great day out for a few of our current players.
3 years 5 years not much difference? Hmm
I cant see how past mistakes is a justification for anything, not that we have ever signed anyone up for longer than five years that I can recall.
I thought your assessment of what you thought cloke would be worth paying a few pages back was fair, but now it's increased by 20%. Is there an upper limit to his worth, or is it simply impossible to pay too much for such a superstar?

Well 2 years, like I said we have players now that we have had for longer that don't perform....

No justification needed really, I didn't say "longer than 5 years" I said 5 years....Darren Gasper..

GF's are getting harder to win, the window is now smaller with the inclusion of GWS and GC, 20% harder to win one now... :thumbsup
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“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.

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Shaun Hampson is the No.1 man"

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Re: Cloke??
« Reply #574 on: August 10, 2012, 03:17:46 PM »
no justification needed, yet you still raise past mistakes as if that justifies something?

Is there a ceiling on what cloke is worth, or is it simply impossible to pay too much for him?

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And my thoughts than your thoughts."

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Re: Cloke??
« Reply #575 on: August 10, 2012, 03:21:02 PM »
STFU al
we're getting him, that's all that matters  ;D

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Re: Cloke??
« Reply #576 on: August 10, 2012, 03:22:19 PM »
 :lol
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

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Re: Cloke??
« Reply #577 on: August 10, 2012, 03:24:32 PM »
no justification needed, yet you still raise past mistakes as if that justifies something?

Is there a ceiling on what cloke is worth, or is it simply impossible to pay too much for him?

"If he came in and performed, then what you pay for him would be be quickly forgotten. On the other hand, if he only gave average return"

Above is what you said al, what difference is this to mistakes we have made in the past?? So to use this statement now, why haven't we said that with all the players we picked in the past that didn't work out??

Yep, would not go over 1m, 5 years, maybe 4 years. That would be my cap!

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“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.

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Re: Cloke??
« Reply #578 on: August 10, 2012, 03:36:58 PM »
the difference to the mistakes of the past is that we havnt paid any of those players what would be the top 5 wages in the league, (perhaps even the top 2? is there anyone else besides ablett on that money?).

as i have said though, mistakes of the past are not justification for anything. If anything, they should pose a warning about overating players.

$1million to me is too much to pay for 1 player, although I acknowledge more will demand and get that in the future. (I can see cotch ending up on that sort of money)
Thanks for answering though. My suspicion is a bidding war could push it higher than that and he will probably go to one of the highest bidders, if he leaves
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Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

Yahweh? or the great Clawski?

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Re: Cloke??
« Reply #579 on: August 10, 2012, 03:45:01 PM »
the difference to the mistakes of the past is that we havnt paid any of those players what would be the top 5 wages in the league, (perhaps even the top 2? is there anyone else besides ablett on that money?).

as i have said though, mistakes of the past are not justification for anything. If anything, they should pose a warning about overating players.

$1million to me is too much to pay for 1 player, although I acknowledge more will demand and get that in the future. (I can see cotch ending up on that sort of money)
Thanks for answering though. My suspicion is a bidding war could push it higher than that and he will probably go to one of the highest bidders, if he leaves

So take a risk, we need to.....Falou highest paid player in the League!!

Falou was a warning...was Ablett???

If it gets into a bidding war above 1m and 4-5 years then we need to walk away..
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“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.

"Rucks:
Shaun Hampson is the No.1 man"

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Re: Cloke??
« Reply #580 on: August 10, 2012, 04:04:25 PM »
Walk away? **** that. Brown paper bag him, soak up the grease, and march on to sausage roll town.

Just get Clokey to the Tiges.

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Re: Cloke??
« Reply #581 on: August 10, 2012, 05:25:45 PM »
Walk away? **** that. Brown paper bag him, soak up the grease, and march on to sausage roll town.

Just get Clokey to the Tiges.

I like the cut of your jib.

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Re: Cloke??
« Reply #582 on: August 10, 2012, 06:02:20 PM »
my jib is haute

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Re: Cloke??
« Reply #583 on: August 10, 2012, 08:09:51 PM »
with a salary cap, return for investment becomes important

True but you could well say that for Deledio. Cloke is a player of proven quality.

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Re: Cloke??
« Reply #584 on: August 11, 2012, 10:00:13 AM »
Yes yes yes, let the clokes pull their gypsy caravans up at punt road and watch the carnival begin
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