Melbourne turns to Richmond for inspiration (H-Sun)

[JVT]

Yes we were 0-9 when we first started with Hardwick but....

a/ Melbourne have no good players.
b/ Cameron Schwab is still in charge.
c/ They are a rabble off field, player development is terrible, they have no home, they have no fans.
d/ When we were 0-9 we were trying our guts out. Melbournes senior players are sulking, and don't seem to be trying on field.

And right there you have the fallout from tanking.  Can't buy attitude, individual-wise or club-wise.

It's a long bow to draw that they are tanking, no priority pickollas

If they finish bottom they get pick 1,2 and viney who is a top 5 pick for their second rounder under father son, if a couple of clubs finish beneath them and feel viney is worth pick 1,2 or 3 and nominate intention to draft viney for one of thosepicks then Melbourne must use their first pick on him. Massive massive reward if they finish last this season

They will not get 1 and 2, just pick 1 as the AFL scrapped the priority pick system. They do have the 2 Scully pick which means they have 3 first round picks. 1 of the 3 will be used on Viney, would definitely be in their best interests to finish bottom, otherwise any team under them can bid on Viney rendering their first pick (2, 3, 4 etc.) the 'Viney pick'.

[wayne]

They will not get 1 and 2, just pick 1 as the AFL scrapped the priority pick system. They do have the 2 Scully pick which means they have 3 first round picks. 1 of the 3 will be used on Viney, would definitely be in their best interests to finish bottom, otherwise any team under them can bid on Viney rendering their first pick (2, 3, 4 etc.) the 'Viney pick'.

They do get pick 1 and 2 if they finish last.

Pick 1 for finishing bottom, and the first Scully compo pick comes directly after where the Demons finish. There is your pick 2.

If they finish bottom, no-one can outbid them for Jack Viney, which means they can use their 2nd round pick to get him.

The second Scully compo pick comes in between the picks of the 9th and 8th placed teams. 14-ish.

So if they finish last they will have picks 1, 2, 14 and Jack Viney (2nd rounder). Luckily for us they can't draft and develop talent very well.

[tiga]

If they are going to go anywhere they need to clean the cupboard of primadonna's like Sylvia & Davey. IMO Jones, Grimes, Moloney & Frawley are the only senior players I'd ask to hang around.   

[Eat_em_Alive]

If they are going to go anywhere they need to clean the cupboard of primadonna's like Sylvia & Davey. IMO Jones, Grimes, Moloney & Frawley are the only senior players I'd ask to hang around.

Took the words out of my mouth mate
Would also have to recruit some grunt players from free agency
Maybe even get a big name or too with winning attitudes

[Chuck17]

Are years behind where they need to be.

had the drafts picks and wasted a few on soft players.

merge with norf pls

[tigs2011]

Only similarity is the 0-9 and poo % we won 5 out of our next 6 to be 5-10. Dees have Essendon and Collingwood next. Comparisons end this week.

Also, I was worried about them getting 1,2 and Viney but lets face it they are so bad that I doubt it will matter. Odds are they take Whitfield at 1 and he turns out a Cale Morton, a KPF at 2 and he becomes Jack Watts etc.

[JVT]

They will not get 1 and 2, just pick 1 as the AFL scrapped the priority pick system. They do have the 2 Scully pick which means they have 3 first round picks. 1 of the 3 will be used on Viney, would definitely be in their best interests to finish bottom, otherwise any team under them can bid on Viney rendering their first pick (2, 3, 4 etc.) the 'Viney pick'.

They do get pick 1 and 2 if they finish last.

Pick 1 for finishing bottom, and the first Scully compo pick comes directly after where the Demons finish. There is your pick 2.

If they finish bottom, no-one can outbid them for Jack Viney, which means they can use their 2nd round pick to get him.

The second Scully compo pick comes in between the picks of the 9th and 8th placed teams. 14-ish.

So if they finish last they will have picks 1, 2, 14 and Jack Viney (2nd rounder). Luckily for us they can't draft and develop talent very well.

I stand corrected . . . but what a load of crap, Scully worth a mid first rounder and a pick straight after their first round? He has played 30-40 games! 

[Penelope]

They will not get 1 and 2, just pick 1 as the AFL scrapped the priority pick system. They do have the 2 Scully pick which means they have 3 first round picks. 1 of the 3 will be used on Viney, would definitely be in their best interests to finish bottom, otherwise any team under them can bid on Viney rendering their first pick (2, 3, 4 etc.) the 'Viney pick'.

They do get pick 1 and 2 if they finish last.

Pick 1 for finishing bottom, and the first Scully compo pick comes directly after where the Demons finish. There is your pick 2.

If they finish bottom, no-one can outbid them for Jack Viney, which means they can use their 2nd round pick to get him.

The second Scully compo pick comes in between the picks of the 9th and 8th placed teams. 14-ish.

So if they finish last they will have picks 1, 2, 14 and Jack Viney (2nd rounder). Luckily for us they can't draft and develop talent very well.

what do mean by the highlighted part wayne?
surely if someone bids their first round pick then Melbourne must use their first round pick on him?

[Loui Tufga]

They will not get 1 and 2, just pick 1 as the AFL scrapped the priority pick system. They do have the 2 Scully pick which means they have 3 first round picks. 1 of the 3 will be used on Viney, would definitely be in their best interests to finish bottom, otherwise any team under them can bid on Viney rendering their first pick (2, 3, 4 etc.) the 'Viney pick'.

They do get pick 1 and 2 if they finish last.

Pick 1 for finishing bottom, and the first Scully compo pick comes directly after where the Demons finish. There is your pick 2.

If they finish bottom, no-one can outbid them for Jack Viney, which means they can use their 2nd round pick to get him.

The second Scully compo pick comes in between the picks of the 9th and 8th placed teams. 14-ish.

So if they finish last they will have picks 1, 2, 14 and Jack Viney (2nd rounder). Luckily for us they can't draft and develop talent very well.

what do mean by the highlighted part wayne?
surely if someone bids their first round pick then Melbourne must use their first round pick on him?

That is correct al, it was confirmed today on SEN that if someone was to offer a first round pick for Viney then Melbourne have to part with a first round pick to get him and if that pick is #1 then so be it....

[Coach]

They will not get 1 and 2, just pick 1 as the AFL scrapped the priority pick system. They do have the 2 Scully pick which means they have 3 first round picks. 1 of the 3 will be used on Viney, would definitely be in their best interests to finish bottom, otherwise any team under them can bid on Viney rendering their first pick (2, 3, 4 etc.) the 'Viney pick'.

They do get pick 1 and 2 if they finish last.

Pick 1 for finishing bottom, and the first Scully compo pick comes directly after where the Demons finish. There is your pick 2.

If they finish bottom, no-one can outbid them for Jack Viney, which means they can use their 2nd round pick to get him.

The second Scully compo pick comes in between the picks of the 9th and 8th placed teams. 14-ish.

So if they finish last they will have picks 1, 2, 14 and Jack Viney (2nd rounder). Luckily for us they can't draft and develop talent very well.

what do mean by the highlighted part wayne?
surely if someone bids their first round pick then Melbourne must use their first round pick on him?

What happens if someone bids their 1st pick on him just to try and stuff over Melbourne? What if Melbourne say "okay then m8. you can have him" only for club trying to stuff over Melbourne to say they don't want him anymore?

[JVT]

They will not get 1 and 2, just pick 1 as the AFL scrapped the priority pick system. They do have the 2 Scully pick which means they have 3 first round picks. 1 of the 3 will be used on Viney, would definitely be in their best interests to finish bottom, otherwise any team under them can bid on Viney rendering their first pick (2, 3, 4 etc.) the 'Viney pick'.

They do get pick 1 and 2 if they finish last.

Pick 1 for finishing bottom, and the first Scully compo pick comes directly after where the Demons finish. There is your pick 2.

If they finish bottom, no-one can outbid them for Jack Viney, which means they can use their 2nd round pick to get him.

The second Scully compo pick comes in between the picks of the 9th and 8th placed teams. 14-ish.

So if they finish last they will have picks 1, 2, 14 and Jack Viney (2nd rounder). Luckily for us they can't draft and develop talent very well.

what do mean by the highlighted part wayne?
surely if someone bids their first round pick then Melbourne must use their first round pick on him?

What happens if someone bids their 1st pick on him just to try and stuff over Melbourne? What if Melbourne say "okay then m8. you can have him" only for club trying to stuff over Melbourne to say they don't want him anymore?

Then the other club gets him. From my understanding, if Melbourne have say Pick 1, 2 and 13, if a club bids their pick 3-12 then Melbourne would need to use their pick 13 on him, or their mid first round pick???

[eliminator]

Melbourne have recruited poorly and are paying the price for it. Harwick was a very good player. Not only intelligent but hard at the ball. Maybe I am being a bit hard but Neeld was a pretty poor player and would not command the respect of the senior players. Furthermore when you have got an accomplished coach like Malthouse above you it is always going to make you look better than you are. The culture at Melbourne stinks because they tanked.

[Penelope]

What happens if someone bids their 1st pick on him just to try and stuff over Melbourne? What if Melbourne say "okay then m8. you can have him" only for club trying to stuff over Melbourne to say they don't want him anymore?

i doubt you would be able to retract your bid once the auction is finished.

[dwaino]

From my understanding, if Melbourne have say Pick 1, 2 and 13, if a club bids their pick 3-12 then Melbourne would need to use their pick 13 on him, or their mid first round pick???

It's next pick. In that scenario, Melbourne would have to use 13. If Melbourne had 2 and 3, and say GWS had 1 and then nominated pick 1, then Melbourne would be forced to use pick 2. It's why someone needs to nominate a first round for Daniher. That way I don't think the Bummers will have a pick until late second round (unless they trade into one) and we all effectively move along in the order. I think they're pretty committed to getting him anyway.

[rogerd3]

RIP Melb.