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Which ruck will be moved on?
« on: June 18, 2012, 06:39:13 PM »
Today on my lunch break I was reading through a few threads and noticed a bit of chat about rucks and moving blokes on at the end of the year. Towards the start of the season I remember there was a ruck discussion but I can't for the life of me find it. So here we go again.

So if everyone can be as sensible and realistic as they can be for a moment, in our list turn over at the end of the year, which, if any, ruck or rucks do people think will be moved on? Granted that besides the Mullet, our ruck stocks are some of the most lack luster in the comp. But only a handful of teams have solid and reliable 2nd/3rd ruck options.

Derrickx - I'm leaning towards this bloke. He appears to be last in the pecking order, is yet to play a senior game, at mature age and not producing any thing at all at VFL level. IMO was average at best in the NAB Cup too.

Browne - age on his side I guess. Every Coburg game I've seen (which is only the 2 on telly and half of one game in person, so granted I haven't seen a great deal) he is rucking mostly as first option but doesn't have much game outside that yet. Showed in last year's Dreamtime game that there might be something there. Kind of reminds me a bit of Sam Jacobs and I assume he's an asset to our ranga brigade. Given the time it takes these blokes to develop I assume we would hold on to him for security in case first ruck options fall down.

Graham - Probably at peak or near to peak development. IMO one of the better VFL ruckmen from the AFL affiliate sides. No world breaker but a reliable short term back up should anything happen to Maric. Could also hold trade value to any club desperate for a ready-to-go ruckman.

Vickery - I can't see him going any where for ages. Current form aside, is more versatile than other options and still has years to make the most of his upside. Required player.

Maric - ....  ;D


In the past few years clubs have been scouting for ruckmen who have spent a few years on another club's rookie list. I guess it's easy to lure them by promising a senior list spot and some games, and they've already had a few years to develop. Do people/you guys think we should use a rookie spot to start on our next ruck project? This way we have another senior list spot for a ready made, big bodied 18 year old mid straight out of the draft who could be in the mix to play round 1.

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Re: Which ruck will be moved on?
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2012, 06:47:42 PM »
Get Paton

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Re: Which ruck will be moved on?
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2012, 06:48:04 PM »
Which which ever one of Browne/Gus who is out of contract first

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Re: Which ruck will be moved on?
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2012, 06:48:39 PM »
I'd keep vickery. Young, agile and can kick goals. We've all seen a glimpse of what he can produce so i'd expect more improvement in the years ahead.

Gus and the big pear Browne i'd move on maybe there's a team stupid enough to trade for them.

Derickx I haven't seen enough of to make a call either way.

What is obvious to me is that maybe hartley can find another gem from outside the club as a backup come seasons end. 

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Re: Which ruck will be moved on?
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2012, 06:49:30 PM »
Derrickx is gone. Graham contracted and second best ruck at club, so he will stay or leave via trade (if any takers) and not sure about Browne. Might get another year.

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Re: Which ruck will be moved on?
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2012, 06:54:43 PM »
Derrickx is gone. Graham contracted and second best ruck at club, so he will stay or leave via trade (if any takers) and not sure about Browne. Might get another year.

Agree.

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Re: Which ruck will be moved on?
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2012, 06:55:25 PM »
Contracts aside, can we really risk moving on two? I wouldn't lose any sleep if we moved on Derrickx and Browne in one go, but then I would fear going through what happened to St. Kilda recently. But moving on those two we would still have Maric, Vickery, Gus, and I assume we would at least rookie someone in that case. Then again, the more I think about it, the more I like having rucks other than the first 3 on the senior list. More room for new mids  ;D

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Re: Which ruck will be moved on?
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2012, 07:01:14 PM »
graham will seek a trade I would think, browne and derikz likely delistings ...so to answer the OP , all of them
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Re: Which ruck will be moved on?
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2012, 07:19:33 PM »
All of them. Draft a young ruck prospect and develop him for when Ivan is 33.  :whistle
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Re: Which ruck will be moved on?
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2012, 07:31:58 PM »
One is definitely gawn, most likely Derickx. Could do with moving all 3 of Gus, Xman and Brown on as all 3 are not long term prospects, but cant leave yourself exposed, get rid of 1 per year and upgrade with better prospects

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Re: Which ruck will be moved on?
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2012, 07:32:55 PM »
Miller. Worst ruck on the list.

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Re: Which ruck will be moved on?
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2012, 07:38:22 PM »
graham
Miller

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Re: Which ruck will be moved on?
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2012, 07:38:37 PM »
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Re: Which ruck will be moved on?
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2012, 07:41:58 PM »
Derickx might be the one to go.

They may give Graham a one year deal as he can play up forward with limited capabilities while they groom Browne to do what I don't really know.

Miller is merely back up but until someone steps up and makes a ruck spot their own or Vickery takes the bit between his teeth and plays like a man then lamentably he may remain on the list for the purpose he was put on the list in the first place. Insurance.

Fortunantely keeping those that stay on the list won't cost us much leaves room in the salary cap to possibly land a ruckman through free agency or a trade.

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Re: Which ruck will be moved on?
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2012, 07:56:10 PM »
Both Derickx & Browne are coming out of contract at years end

Would think Derickx would most likely be the one who goes.

Browne at 21 is likely to given another year

Some are saying Gus is coming out of contract others say he has another year. If he is contracted then he will stay unless they try and trade him.

I suppose Free agency may also play a role in the decision in that who's available? If we seek another ruckman via FA then maybe soemone like Gus will say "I want to be traded"

I know people are saying this years drafts a ripper but does anyone know how it's looking regarding young ruckmen
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