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Re: Tiger Team vs Crows
« Reply #60 on: June 28, 2012, 11:03:01 PM »
Lol your right! Give us your justification and then the truth about Jackson

Justification= Is an on field leader who can tag and get his own footy to boot.

Truth= Gives away silly frees at critical times and misses clutch goals butchers the ball most of the time and is not damaging in the least due to his disposals being so haphazard. Has no footy smarts and would be an average VFL player.

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Re: Tiger Team vs Crows
« Reply #61 on: June 28, 2012, 11:10:00 PM »
That's exactly what I mean!  :banghead

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Re: Tiger Team vs Crows
« Reply #62 on: June 28, 2012, 11:19:15 PM »
Lol your right! Give us your justification and then the truth about Jackson

Justification= Is an on field leader who can tag and get his own footy to boot.

Truth= Gives away silly frees at critical times and misses clutch goals butchers the ball most of the time and is not damaging in the least due to his disposals being so haphazard. Has no footy smarts and would be an average VFL player.
your justification is way too kind. when was the last time he did a job as a tagger on a good player. hes failed in most roles when he fails in his latest role he will be gone.

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Re: Tiger Team vs Crows
« Reply #63 on: June 29, 2012, 02:16:55 AM »
Miller and jacko = inbreds will raoe us

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Re: Tiger Team vs Crows
« Reply #64 on: June 30, 2012, 12:40:37 AM »
HB: Bachar Houli, Ben Griffiths, Matt Dea

This is the weakest HB line we have named all year. Houli is the only ball getter, so they will make him accountable to someone. They are going to need extra help at HB. I'm very worried we are going to get cut up there.

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Re: Tiger Team vs Crows
« Reply #65 on: June 30, 2012, 08:09:42 AM »
hooray elton gets a gamne.
only one question has he banged the door down. dont get me wrong we need to promote kids but sort of flys in the face of what a lot of people have been preaching. we dont have a genuine must earn it policy. what we have is a great need to get games into younger players still so on that hooray.
what i dont like to see is elton as the sub. ffs if we are to promote em give em a decent crack at it.  lets not do with elton what we did with ohanlon. oh and people are kidding themselves if they think elton will get thrown into the ruck what a waste that would be.

shame miller never got the behind and graham/derickx  got a game.

cant believe conca got dropped, and im gobsmacked that people continue to want to drop  ellis as well.

backline has real structure with rance grimes and griffiths.
griffiths to tippett, rance to walker  and grimes third tall as the third man up and support player to both rance and griffiths. morris will start back along with dea and newman.

forward structure should be
riewoldt ff, elton in a pocket for the whole freakin game, and miller at chf. when ivan needs a rest miller will have to be it lol.

dont agree with the policy of playing three glass half full  runt forwards who lack polish  in edwards nahas and king. at least one should be dropped for conca.

would have given ohanlon a full game regardless of form what the eff are they up to. win lose  which is likely or draw the structure is more what we should be aiming at if elton gets a full game.

And how many VFL games have you watched???

VFL is about developing the players and teaching them to stick to the 'structures'.. Just as Gourdis was being named in the bests for Coburg but not being able to stick to the structure, players aren't named in the best that 'do' stick to the structure..  He has obviously done whats required..  Elton is a talented player and will play that hit up forward that we need. 

Geez you dribble on sometimes.. 

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Re: Tiger Team vs Crows
« Reply #66 on: June 30, 2012, 05:03:35 PM »
Especially with no Foley, we need all the runners we can get against the crows
I guess the selection panel can see something they call "team balance" with the players they have selected. Therefore what may appear an unexpected change as in Conca being left out could be more a strategic move more so than his apparent poor form. Maybe they have seen something after hours of reviewing videos of the Crows, we can only hope they have the mix right, could get downright ugly but we don't have the worst record at AAMI.

Unfortunately the jokers posing as experts in our MC have nfi Lozza  >:(

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Re: Tiger Team vs Crows
« Reply #67 on: June 30, 2012, 06:11:58 PM »
Especially with no Foley, we need all the runners we can get against the crows
I guess the selection panel can see something they call "team balance" with the players they have selected. Therefore what may appear an unexpected change as in Conca being left out could be more a strategic move more so than his apparent poor form. Maybe they have seen something after hours of reviewing videos of the Crows, we can only hope they have the mix right, could get downright ugly but we don't have the worst record at AAMI.

Unfortunately the jokers posing as experts in our MC have nfi Lozza  >:(
Yep those off-field in our MC can take a good hard look at themselves as well. Lack of options really hurt us when we needed to change things up in the 2nd half. With Kingy going down we were stuck with leaving both Miller and Elton on. Only one should have played first of all. I'd still like to know why Conca was dropped?
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Re: Tiger Team vs Crows
« Reply #68 on: June 30, 2012, 06:16:27 PM »
Conca knows the back structure better than ellis   is more experienced am all for both in the side but ffs dropping  him b4 Ellis and keeping miller in is tanking in my eyes .... Lucky i need glasses

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Re: Tiger Team vs Crows
« Reply #69 on: June 30, 2012, 06:43:43 PM »
Especially with no Foley, we need all the runners we can get against the crows
I guess the selection panel can see something they call "team balance" with the players they have selected. Therefore what may appear an unexpected change as in Conca being left out could be more a strategic move more so than his apparent poor form. Maybe they have seen something after hours of reviewing videos of the Crows, we can only hope they have the mix right, could get downright ugly but we don't have the worst record at AAMI.

Unfortunately the jokers posing as experts in our MC have nfi Lozza  >:(
Yep those off-field in our MC can take a good hard look at themselves as well. Lack of options really hurt us when we needed to change things up in the 2nd half. With Kingy going down we were stuck with leaving both Miller and Elton on. Only one should have played first of all. I'd still like to know why Conca was dropped?
hmm sort of agree but sort of dont.
what i dont get is why hardwick did nothing. miller gave nothing all day why was rutten allowed to play on a first gamer their biggest strongest best and most experienced defender played on a first gamer and we allowed it to happen.

while we allowed it to happen blokes like shaw and smith just ignored miller and ran of him all day or went and helped talia out.

riewoldt got not only talia but two other defenders all day yet we could not find a free tall forward i really dont get how this can happen and continues to happen.our mids either  have no vision or the other talls are not working hard enough. its likely a combination of both.

some options we did have but for what ever reason failed to try them. why did we not send ivan forward i know it would have been a roll of the dice. or why didnt we throw one of the tall defenders forward we had a spare as adelaide only went with tippett and walker.  we could then have had ivan play a kick behind the play. we did nothing.

i firmly believe two kpfs is the way to go and have a third tall option with a ruck/forward. ideally vickery would fill the ruck/forward role if he reaches his potential.  jack is a ff we need to find a chf and getting a game into elton or playing griffiths or astbury when fit is the right way to go win or lose.

atm vickery is not the answer so why dont we tweak it just a bit play ivan more forward and bring in another ruckman who rotates of the bench. or why not try a genuine ruck/forward despite his form in derickx.

i too would like to know why conca was dropped surely he had a niggle. batchelor i can understand his form has been poor. i know ellis had maybe his quitest game for the yr but i would not drop him unlike some i reckon hes done more than should be expected of a first yr player.
conca and foley would make a huge difference to our mids but that just shows up how thin on the ground we are for them.

finally i think we lost the game in defense just as much poor disposal and decision making rance again got badly beaten i dont know if ive ever seen a player go to ground so much or get caught out of position so much.

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Re: Tiger Team vs Crows
« Reply #70 on: July 01, 2012, 02:36:17 AM »
Good thing dropping batch conca

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Re: Tiger Team vs Crows
« Reply #71 on: July 01, 2012, 10:53:35 AM »
Big mistake dropping Batchlor & Conca for the Adelaide game. Also blooding a new player Elton against the Crows on thier home ground is not wise :o

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Re: Tiger Team vs Crows
« Reply #72 on: July 01, 2012, 11:09:08 AM »
Got no probs blooding a new player. We can't have our game selection and player development dictated to out of fear of losing to that extent.

But to combine this with playing shot guys like Miller and out of form Ellis and the same time, as well as leaving Conca out is scoreboard suicide. 


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Re: Tiger Team vs Crows
« Reply #73 on: July 01, 2012, 11:19:44 AM »
Got no probs blooding a new player. We can't have our game selection and player development dictated to out of fear of losing to that extent.

But to combine this with playing shot guys like Miller and out of form Ellis and the same time, as well as leaving Conca out is scoreboard suicide.

Leaving Conca out when we already were missing Foley was certainly suicidal as far as expecting the midfield to match up against one of the competition's strongest.  Thompson, Dangerfield, Sloane, Vince were always going to be a tough gig and going in with a weakened midfield was only going to make it all that much harder.