Connors and Martin in trouble!! [Update: Dan gone; Dusty 2 week suspension]

[WA Tiger]

yeah, like this sort of thing just happens regularly over the years, doesnt it

in the last 7-8 years collingwood have probably had more off field incidents amongst established players than us.

the poor culture at richmond was not one of off field misdemeanors, but one lacking team values and work ethics, on the football side of things.

but hey, dont let small things like that get in the way of your veruca tanties

Yeah right, Schulz, Connors, King, Martin, Cousins, Johnson, gee even back to Charles......great values! 7-8 years, OMFG and small things....look at our 7-8 years overall, wat a joke...

Tanties.....grow up!

[Penelope]

and you dont think other clubs all have their issues?
our "culture" problem has been match day, not minor off field indiscretions.

Compare that to, say, st kildas party culture that blight got sacked for trying to change; now there is a club with off field culture issues

and yeah, lately you have been on one big tantie. I dont think i'm the one that needs to grow up.

It seems the penny has finally dropped that we are not as good as you delusionaly thought we are, and the truth has pushed you over the edge

[dwaino]

Culture is fine. The young blokes aren't being influenced by anyone. A workmate (his brother was a teammate of O'Hanlon's in U18s) was out with O'Hanlon a few weeks or so ago until about 1AM.  Despite much encouragement, O'Hanlon didn't have a single drop of alcohol. Connors and Martin are good mates. Like Tony Shaw said on AFL League Teams the other night, they're the type of kids who sit at the back of the classroom. You're always going to get a few and it's not reflective on the rest of the group.

[Smokey]

stuffing idiot Martin, reinforcing the great culture and behavioral habits at the club that has ensured we stay bottom.

That sounds suspiciously like an excuse to me!

[Coach]

yeah, like this sort of thing just happens regularly over the years, doesnt it

in the last 7-8 years collingwood have probably had more off field incidents amongst established players than us.

the poor culture at richmond was not one of off field misdemeanors, but one lacking team values and work ethics, on the football side of things.

but hey, dont let small things like that get in the way of your veruca tanties

Yeah right, Schulz, Connors, King, Martin, Cousins, Johnson, gee even back to Charles......great values! 7-8 years, OMFG and small things....look at our 7-8 years overall, wat a joke...

Tanties.....grow up!

Schulz drink driving, first and only time he's been in trouble. Johnson peeed on a wall, big deal. Connors is a moron and I'm not even sure what King has done wrong?

There's nothing wrong with our culture.

[WA Tiger]

yeah, like this sort of thing just happens regularly over the years, doesnt it

in the last 7-8 years collingwood have probably had more off field incidents amongst established players than us.

the poor culture at richmond was not one of off field misdemeanors, but one lacking team values and work ethics, on the football side of things.

but hey, dont let small things like that get in the way of your veruca tanties

Yeah right, Schulz, Connors, King, Martin, Cousins, Johnson, gee even back to Charles......great values! 7-8 years, OMFG and small things....look at our 7-8 years overall, wat a joke...

Tanties.....grow up!

Schulz drink driving, first and only time he's been in trouble. Johnson peeed on a wall, big deal. Connors is a moron and I'm not even sure what King has done wrong?

There's nothing wrong with our culture.

Doesn't matter what they did, just shows the culture, we also had Roberts and Old mate that went home and smacked someone out....

King was in the poo for hitting someone or a woman wasn't he?

[dwaino]

yeah, like this sort of thing just happens regularly over the years, doesnt it

in the last 7-8 years collingwood have probably had more off field incidents amongst established players than us.

the poor culture at richmond was not one of off field misdemeanors, but one lacking team values and work ethics, on the football side of things.

but hey, dont let small things like that get in the way of your veruca tanties

Yeah right, Schulz, Connors, King, Martin, Cousins, Johnson, gee even back to Charles......great values! 7-8 years, OMFG and small things....look at our 7-8 years overall, wat a joke...

Tanties.....grow up!

Schulz drink driving, first and only time he's been in trouble. Johnson peeed on a wall, big deal. Connors is a moron and I'm not even sure what King has done wrong?

There's nothing wrong with our culture.

Doesn't matter what they did, just shows the culture, we also had Roberts and Old mate that went home and smacked someone out....

King was in the poo for hitting someone or a woman wasn't he?

Spent a lot of time in the poo in his previous vocation 

[Coach]

No, I think it says more about a blokes character than it does our culture. Connors should have been sacked long ago. Definitely the clubs fault that they didn't stuff him off earlier. Roberts is a fat sook and Troy Taylor belongs in a prison. The club took a risk on those guys and it didn't pay off. Maybe we should be bagging Jackson or Cameron or whoever does the "character testing" poo when drafting blokes? They've obviously made a few cock ups.
Schulz drinking and driving just shows someone that made a bad mistake. Johnson taking a leak on a wall is nothing.

I think a family accused Kingy of threatening to kill them. Sounds like Kingy

[one-eyed]

Richmond's Trent Cotchin says teammate Dustin Martin will learn lesson from suspension

    Glenn McFarlane
    From: Sunday Herald Sun
    July 07, 2012 11:30PM

DUSTIN Martin's two-week club-imposed suspension "ripped his heart out", but teammate and leadership group member Trent Cotchin says the midfielder will emerge from the experience a better person and player.

Cotchin said he felt for Martin, and Daniel Connors who left the Tigers this week, but said the club's culture was more important than any individual within it.

The pair missed a training session this week after each took a sleeping tablet the night before, with Martin also admitting he had consumed alcohol.

"Dusty ... it has probably ripped his heart apart, to be totally honest," Cotchin said after Richmond's 23-point win over Melbourne at the MCG on Saturday.

"He loves the boys, that's probably his most enjoyable part of football and obviously playing as well.

"It would be killing him inside and he knows he has let a few of the guys down, but we will support him through it and make sure he comes out of it better on the other side. He will come back fitter and stronger and give us another lift when he gets back."

Martin, who saw the match from the grandstand, did a punishing schedule of running laps on Saturday.

Cotchin, who said he had texted Connors, said the club had had to make a tough call.

"We had to make some tough decisions ... and we think we have made the right one," he said.

"Hopefully we have set a standard. Our culture has taken some big steps. We are making sure we stamp it (bad behaviour) out."

Richmond general manager of football Craig Cameron admitted the club was trying to educate Martin on "simple life skills".

"Dustin needs to have structure in his life," Cameron said on SEN. "The times that we might become a little bit concerned are when the season ends and there's not the training programs ...

"But we're working with him constantly to try and put some structure into his life, and to be more active with some of the things he's doing away from football."

Cameron said the club's player development manager was working with Martin on "simple life skills like how to cook, how to clean his house ... we work with Ralph Carr, his manager, to make sure that he can put proper budgets together and manage his money.

"For a man who earns the sort of money he earns at his age, he needs to understand that that's not going to happen forever, or may not happen forever."

Cotchin said he was pleased with the way the Tigers had responded.

"Our group is really close ... and this week has only galvanised us," he said.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-trent-cotchin-says-teammate-dustin-martin-will-learn-lesson-from-suspension/story-e6freck3-1226419958052