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Re: Forward Line
« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2012, 01:00:20 AM »
I reckon jack has a groin problem.

He can't lead. Groin issues hamper burst leading.
When he does lead he only does in 1 qtr probably until the jab wears out.
He's kicking poorly which he's always usually been good at.

Looks like he's managing groin soreness.
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Re: Forward Line
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2012, 11:33:55 AM »
Jack is probably managing some injury but who know what it is?

• He is not taking contested marks.
• He's not leading to good spots in the forward line and not extending his arms.
• When the ball spills, usually the crumbers are not in the right spots.
• He can't chase well and can only tackle if the back-man is unlucky enough to be within his range.
• Playing for easy free kicks instead of working hard for the ball

Need to ask what the coaching staff is doing to maximise his impact on the ground to benefit the team. At present Jack is floating around the 50 mark and the boundary lines not having much impact.

I would have thought the coaches need to go old school Full Forward and play him deep in the pockets/goal square to get as many one on ones as possible or get a good run at the ball. He may possible get a few cheap ones which would get his confidence going.

This would require a Griffiths/Elton/Derrickx type to play a true Centre half fwd target to demand the ball with three of the crumbers playing high (Edwards, Nahas & and dare I say Newman) to pump the ball in deep or have shots at goal if in the clear. The would leave a lot of space between the fifty and goal square for Jack to operate in with King to crumb deep. There is also nothing stopping the midfielders coming through if we get space to run and scoring goals.


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Re: Forward Line
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2012, 11:46:10 AM »
Low on confidence and has no help. He'd be looking forward to next season when he gets some tall bodies around him again (TV and hopefully Cloke).  :pray

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Re: Forward Line
« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2012, 07:36:32 PM »
Jack backs Tiger attack
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Wed 22 Aug, 2012


Richmond’s key goalkicker, Jack Riewoldt, believes the Tigers will have the essential strike power up forward in 2013 to help them make a quantum leap.

Riewoldt, currently second on the competition’s Coleman Medal table with 56 goals, has pinpointed a fit Ty Vickery as crucial to the team’s forward plans.

Read the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/145388/default.aspx

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Re: Forward Line
« Reply #34 on: August 22, 2012, 08:12:12 PM »
onya jack, get around him guys and show that support

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Re: Forward Line
« Reply #35 on: August 22, 2012, 08:31:18 PM »
I would have thought there would be some attention to address our front half in the off season, our midfield and defence is first class. We lack class forwards, if we could add a player like gary ablett senior or a goal kicking freak, voila , hello top 4 :shh
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Re: Forward Line
« Reply #36 on: August 22, 2012, 08:32:34 PM »
I would have thought there would be some attention to address our front half in the off season, our midfield and defence is first class. We lack class forwards, if we could add a player like gary ablett senior or a goal kicking freak, voila , hello top 4 :shh

voila indeed  :shh

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Re: Forward Line
« Reply #37 on: August 22, 2012, 10:33:29 PM »
I would have thought there would be some attention to address our front half in the off season, our midfield and defence is first class. We lack class forwards, if we could add a player like gary ablett senior or a goal kicking freak, voila , hello top 4 :shh
disagree while a work in progress the defense is ordinary. thats not to say most of the players we have cant improve and become a v/good defense.
yes we have some good mids with a few promising ones but it is as shallow as they come.
i do agree the front half needs some work but first things first. there is a greater need atm in defense and midfield. we cant fix all areas in one go.

we could do lee fwd/def, duffy med for. chaplin def  fa,  5 mids with two being mature very easily plus rookie a few mature types like hartigan kpd and dramatically improve two key areas and do just a little bit for another.

we actually have as far as tall forwards go.
griffiths nd19 , astbury nd35, riewoldt nd13 , elton nd 26,  plus ruckman forward vickery nd 8..  some would argue post nd 26 is a forward as well. there are some seriously good picks being expended in this area already.
if we have recruiting right it is a matter of development rather than expending more picks on kpfs. even with the above list if a mature kpf was available in free agency or mid nd you would seriously look at taking him. one of or even both cloke and lee should be considered.

have said this before the tall forward type we lack is a gunstan type.

we sure as hell lack for both QUALITY and nunbers of   sml and med forwards. we can and do rotate mids thru the forward line our first pick in the nd should go on  a player like jake stringer who is a genuine utility and imo the next pavlich can be played thru there if we take him or we can play midfield with just as much effect.

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Re: Forward Line
« Reply #38 on: August 22, 2012, 11:16:39 PM »
Hey Claw, I noticed Pat Contin has been in the bests for Coburg the last couple of weeks. He spent most of the first Half of the season on the sidelines with injury but seems to have come back in good form. Any chance of re rooking him? Did you rate him at all in his first stint with us?

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Re: Forward Line
« Reply #39 on: August 22, 2012, 11:32:04 PM »
Said at start of year TV would be our barometer and if he could stand up and play like he saw out 2011 well I dare say we would be gearing up for September action right now.
Alas he didn't (for whatever reason), he has had a nice spell and should go into 2013 with no excuse, 'If' he can reproduce well there is one big part of the equation! Grimesy back fit  and a Chaplin will make sure defense has some depth so another Forward and Captain obvious a back Ruck and you can smell what the Tiger is cookin  ;D

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Re: Forward Line
« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2012, 08:19:16 AM »
Issue numero uno to fix over the summer. We really lack quality lead-up/hit-up forwards that can find space and mark say 40m out. Instead we too often just bomb the ball long to the top of the square towards the talls and hope and pray we can manufacture a goal out of nothing. It doesn't help either that our small forwards don't anticipate the fall of the ball well enough and end up flat footed and out of position (hello Robbie). When you have 42 inside 50s in a half, a return of just 8 goals is woefully inefficient. Our poor goalkicking is another issue to address over the preseason. The team as a whole including our usually reliable kicks have had the yips all year in front of the sticks and it's cost us games.
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Re: Forward Line
« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2012, 10:18:08 AM »
Summed up very well, MT.

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Re: Forward Line
« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2012, 07:02:36 PM »
Issue numero uno to fix over the summer. We really lack quality lead-up/hit-up forwards that can find space and mark say 40m out. Instead we too often just bomb the ball long to the top of the square towards the talls and hope and pray we can manufacture a goal out of nothing. It doesn't help either that our small forwards don't anticipate the fall of the ball well enough and end up flat footed and out of position (hello Robbie). When you have 42 inside 50s in a half, a return of just 8 goals is woefully inefficient. Our poor goalkicking is another issue to address over the preseason. The team as a whole including our usually reliable kicks have had the yips all year in front of the sticks and it's cost us games.

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Re: Forward Line
« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2012, 07:40:19 PM »
Hey Claw, I noticed Pat Contin has been in the bests for Coburg the last couple of weeks. He spent most of the first Half of the season on the sidelines with injury but seems to have come back in good form. Any chance of re rooking him? Did you rate him at all in his first stint with us?
lliked pat a bit. thiought he would be one rookie we retained as a rookie.. thing is the rookie list is there to be turned over. cant criticise em for doing that.

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Re: Forward Line
« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2012, 04:51:35 PM »
Agree with MT. Our poor kicking for goal is keeping sides in the contest when they should be well and truly buried.