LMAO @ Sack Hardwick threads

[Francois Jackson]

we aint improved.

we were beaten by a side who had many top players off the oval. Had they been playing we would have been pumped back to the future RAPED

Improvements ? where are they.

Players been given games with no prior form or out for long stints.
l seen more players shirk this year at Richmond than in my lifetime of football.
We are still kicking the ball short.
We still make the same skill errors.
l see more players standing watching at critical stages. King, Rewoldt, Grigg, Houli, Edwards, Martin at times while players like Nahas, Cotchin, Tuck give 2nd & 3rd efforts.
l see top players sitting on the bench in the critical stages of the game.
l see players giving away free kicks that surely have been told by the coach to avoid in previous games. Same culprits.
Our full forward who stands at thew back instead of leading flatout.
Our FF who has 2 players at times, why even go to him we must have a spare player somewhere. Oh thats right we are being caught out changing.
l see players giving away free kick when the ball aint even near them for Geez sake we are rabble
& then to make matter seem even worse, they got Campbell being the runner when he should be controlling his coaching duties.
Not to mention all the strife off the field we wont mention.
what worries me more is Cotchin saying we not doing enough hard work on the track. Bit late now. that crap should be said pre-season & them words he said spells season disaster.
The captain is near meltdown because the players cant get it right.

All l want to see is Hardwick stick fat on being a tuff coach making players earn thier right to play for the jumper.

Fantastic post 

your last line says it all

great psot

[Yeahright]

2005=10 wins
2006   11 wins
2007   3 wins
2008   11 wins
2009   5 wins
2010   6 wins
2011 =8.5 wins
2012 =  7 at the moment.

You tell me how we are going ??

Defensively we dont bleed down back as bad as we used to.
but improvement is about winning games
I will take horse racing as a good example, no difference being beaten by 4 lengths compared to 10 lengths , why, you still got beaten.
Sorry, I am all about winning, thats my culture, not about losing
If you want to believe the spin that Hardwick goes on about winning this KPI Blah Blah blah thats good for you
What I have seen for the past months are players such as Grigg, Houli, Ellis not put there head over the ball etc etc
Yep and Dimma stated this in his press conference on Sat Night
And lets dont forget Jack Riewoldt. , cant be bothered even going there, its all about Riewoldt.

What I feel sorry for are the 6-7 players who have CARRIED this club all season.
You have your opinion , I have mine.
What happens if we dont play finals in 2013 ???
Keep in mind that we were $1.22 to play finals 6 weeks ago before Freo, we have fallen in the biggest hole of all times
Who is too blame, ? According to Hardwick the players and himself. , mmmmmm

So if its all about winning, shouldn't you wait till the end of the season and judge if we improved by how many wins we had?

[Penelope]

for a bloke who supposedly worked at a club you are very ill informed. no wonder you dont work there anymore.the lack of common sense is minboggling.

improved ladder position is about winning more games.
but improvement itself can have nothing to do with win/loss ratio im gobsmacked that you cant grasp such a simple concept.

  welcome aboard the marie celeste

hey jacky jacky, still waiting for an answer as to why margins are not important when you lose but are when you win?

any chance of a logical explanation?

[Jackstar is back!!!]

mate, dont know what you problem is.
I have never said anything about margins in any of most posts.
Go and search,
I am all about winning, not losing !!!!!
You play footy to win the "'4 " points

[Jackstar is back!!!]

Al, read Tigermonk post.
He is on the money

[Dubstep Dookie]

In B4 snip

[dwaino]

In B4 snip

Fantastic post  sums up thread. Well said

[camboon]

Its really exciting for the  doom and gloomers - three loses on a row, its just really funny that we all bite time after time instead of ignoring the baiting   .

We prayed to be competitive - we are, let pray for wins now - LOL

[Penelope]

I have never said anything about margins in any of most posts.

It's about winning not margins

[Jackstar is back!!!]

Its really exciting for the  doom and gloomers - three loses on a row, its just really funny that we all bite time after time instead of ignoring the baiting   .

We prayed to be competitive - we are, let pray for wins now - LOL

Pray .how appropriate

[Francois Jackson]

Margins count only when your aiming for finals and count on a need a good  percentage

Personally and it's only me it wouldn't have mattered if we got beaten by 5 goals the other night

A loss is a loss, nothing glorified about losing

I felt exactly the same when Geelong smashed us by 150 as I did when GC beat us after the siren

[Penelope]

did you feel exactly the same when we belted hawthorn as when we fell over the line against gws

[Mr Magic]

Agree with claw. There has been clear improvement this year.

[the claw]

Claw, did you think West Coast would rise from bottom 4 to top 4? I reckon if you were a WC fan you would have been on a forum telling them it would take another 3 years before they could even think of finals.

poo can (and will) change quickly in footy

im one who copped plenty of crap when wce went backwards.injuries killed em in 07 and they bowed out in a semi after finishing 3rd on the ladder.

after cousins and judd went and kerr unable to get on the park  i thought they had a decent list that just needed replenishing in the midfield. my biggest criticism of them was the number of players who could not use the ball properly. in fact i was shocked they went back as far as they did and thought worsfold would get the chop. as it was it was a close run thing. he was given to mid season last yr to turn it around or he was cactus.

theres still 16 players on their list who were there when they bowed out of finals  in 07. 9 or 10 of them are premiership players. thats a damn good core to have to build on over the last 5 drafts.
their list kpis  were decent as well 10 or so  100 gamers enough of 50 - 99 game players with a decent spread of players in the right age groups something like 20 odd players in the 23 plus age bracket.
your right a lot of things can and do change quickly. but there are constants in most things.

[Francois Jackson]

did you feel exactly the same when we belted hawthorn as when we fell over the line against gws

no because when we beat GWS i knew our season was over in terms of making the 8. That became clear after the Fremantle game. We played that GWS game like our season was done and dusted, but most of you blamed the weather or God or a combination of both but some of us knew the writing was on the wall after the Freo game.

Dont get me wrong the Hawthorn win was as good as any of them. Saints more so as we finally buried some demons.

The losses and how we lost far outweigh any positives. Our losses show a mental weekness.