List analysis [merged]

[Mr Magic]

Desperate Damo and the Footy Show Fornicators.

 

[tigs2011]

Give Wallet a break, it was all apart of the plan.

Delivered us Cotchin and Martin on a silver platter. 

[mightytiges]

Looking at our list and what it will look like starting round 1 next year, I would say for the first time in a long long time (over a decade) our list is starting to return to a good balance. There's a couple of oldies, a thickish senior core that has gained close to 100 games experience each (although still some obvious names need to go) and a decent splattering of youth still come through  the ranks (more to come on draft day). The one noticeable con. is our thin ruck division if Maric goes down  .

List Analysis

Age - as of April 2013 (start of the season)

31: Tuck (162)
30: Newman (214)
29: King (87)
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28: -
27: Foley (120), Jackson (123), I.Maric (98 ), Chaplin (140)
26: Deledio (172), Graham (48 ), McGuane (93), White (89), Knights (96)
25: Derickx (2), Grigg (86), Nahas (77)
24: Edwards (109), Houli (70 ), Morris (21), Riewoldt (112)
23: Cotchin (86), Rance (66), Post (30)
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22: Astbury (24), Vickery (54)
21: Batchelor (30), Dea (21), Griffiths (18 ), Grimes (17), Helbig (15), Martin (63)
20: Conca (35), Elton (1)
19: Arnot (-), Ellis (21), O'Hanlon (8 ), Darrou# (-), Verrier# (-)
18: new draftees

Oldies: 3
Prime: 19
Youth: 15 + new draftees


Experience

200+ games:    1
150-199:       2
100-149:       5
50-99:        12
25-49:         4
1-25:         10
Yet to debut:  3 + new draftees


Height (cm)

Rucks       (200+):     4 - Derickx (201), Graham (201), I.Maric (200), Vickery (200)

Big KPPs    (195-200):  6 - Griffiths (200), Elton (197), Astbury (195), Post (195), Riewoldt (195), Chaplin (195)

KPPs        (190-194):  4 - Rance (194), Grimes (193), McGuane (192), Darrou# (190)

Tall Mids   (186-190):  9 - Jackson (190), Grigg (190), O'Hanlon (189), Tuck (189), Batchelor (188 ), Deledio (188 ), Martin (187), Verrier# (187), Dea (186)

Mids        (181-185):  8 - Conca (185), Cotchin (185), Helbig (185), Morris (185), Knights (184), Newman (183), Edwards (182), Ellis (181)

Smalls      (sub 180):  6 - Arnot (180), Houli (180), White (180), Foley (178 ), King (178 ), Nahas (176)


Weight (kg)

100+:   5 - Graham (106), I.Maric (102), Derickx (100), Griffiths (100), Chaplin (100)

95-99:  2 - Darrou# (97), Vickery (95)

90-94:  8 - Astbury (93), Post (93), Rance (93), Riewoldt (93), Elton (92), McGuane (92), Tuck (92), Grimes (91)

85-89:  9 - Deledio (88 ), Jackson (88 ), Arnot (87), Knights (87), O'Hanlon (87), Batchelor (86), Martin (86), Dea (85), Grigg (85)

80-84: 11 - Cotchin (84), Houli (84), Morris (84), Ellis (83), Helbig (83), Newman (83), King (82), White (82), Foley (81), Conca (80), Edwards (80)

sub80:  2 - Verrier# (76), Nahas (72)

[tdy]

Big kpps is a weak area, thus Chaplins recruitment, still we are weak there though.

[Judge Roughneck]

We have none a few years back

[Willy]

I've heard Terry Wallace had to paint his own nails when he first came to the club. These duties were later attended to by Greg Miller.

[Stripes]

Thank's for putting this together MT. 

As much about player size as it is about experience I think. The weight analysis is the area I'm always keen to look at along with the experience/games played. I think this is the true indicators to where you are at as a team. Generally, players don't get to play 100+ games unless they are capable so the more of these players we have the more successful our team will be as a rule.

Additionally, player weight indicates to me player strength and ability to compete one out against opponents. Players like Vickery and Grimes are still a little under weight and therefore are able to compete on a level playing field against opposition players. The fact that they are able to often beat their opponents already gives me some real hope going forward. Conca and Ellis are another two in a similar vein though Eliis is heavier than I thought he would be.

I'm glad we have added two more experienced and solid units to the list. 

[tdy]

We have none a few years back

True very true, we are getting better but gee we could still get better with KPPs

[tiga]

Geez Darrou is a big lump of a lad. To be 190cm and 97kg at 19 is pretty impressive. Can anyone shed some light on his Burger Form and if he has the ability to step up this year?

Luke McGuane at 92 kg's?????  Was this measured during a piggy back?

[Phil Mrakov]

Geez Darrou is a big lump of a lad. To be 190cm and 97kg at 19 is pretty impressive. Can anyone shed some light on his Burger Form and if he has the ability to step up this year?

He's just fat man

[yellowandback]

Geez Darrou is a big lump of a lad. To be 190cm and 97kg at 19 is pretty impressive. Can anyone shed some light on his Burger Form and if he has the ability to step up this year?

Luke McGuane at 92 kg's?????  Was this measured during a piggy back?

Yes, Darrou loves a burger. HJs, Meccas, Greasy Joes the list is endless.

[Phil Mrakov]

Geez Darrou is a big lump of a lad. To be 190cm and 97kg at 19 is pretty impressive. Can anyone shed some light on his Burger Form and if he has the ability to step up this year?

Luke McGuane at 92 kg's?????  Was this measured during a piggy back?

Yes, Darrou loves a burger. HJs, Meccas, Greasy Joes the list is endless.

Apparently Krispy Kremes too

[tdy]

Thank's for putting this together MT. 

As much about player size as it is about experience I think. The weight analysis is the area I'm always keen to look at along with the experience/games played. I think this is the true indicators to where you are at as a team. Generally, players don't get to play 100+ games unless they are capable so the more of these players we have the more successful our team will be as a rule.

Additionally, player weight indicates to me player strength and ability to compete one out against opponents. Players like Vickery and Grimes are still a little under weight and therefore are able to compete on a level playing field against opposition players. The fact that they are able to often beat their opponents already gives me some real hope going forward. Conca and Ellis are another two in a similar vein though Eliis is heavier than I thought he would be.

I'm glad we have added two more experienced and solid units to the list. 

I agree being heavy is important, that's why when bomber Thompson went back to the dons they tried to bulk up.  Its a collision game and Hardwick is doing the right thing recruiting heavier players.  I was so sick of us being a bunch of little titch's and getting pushed off the ball. 

[Hellenic Tiger]

Exactly we are no longer a team of skinny flankers with a sprinkling of ageing KPP.

We are now a much heavier side with a lot more skill and some depth too.

No quick fixes.

[tiga]

Geez Darrou is a big lump of a lad. To be 190cm and 97kg at 19 is pretty impressive. Can anyone shed some light on his Burger Form and if he has the ability to step up this year?

Luke McGuane at 92 kg's?????  Was this measured during a piggy back?

Yes, Darrou loves a burger. HJs, Meccas, Greasy Joes the list is endless.

He might be on the heavierside but its easier to turn someone like Darrou into Jono Brown than someone like Fiona.