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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #585 on: March 12, 2017, 09:03:59 AM »
I still don't know who the best 22 are but let's have another crack;

Conca         Astbury        Grimes
Markov       Rance           McIntosh
Grigg          Cotchin        B. Ellis
Edwards     Riewoldt       Rioli
Castagna    Martin          Griffiths

Nankervis   Vlastuin       Prestia

Int Caddy Lloyd Miles Butler

No Houli and Hunt please and i would also have Menadue and Short in the side but that won't happen.

Agree Houli is an absolute liability. He plays we lose.

Griff in the fwd line only if he is 100% fit. Chol comes to mind for a key tall however endurance is still sub-afl. Maybe Lennon comes in as a lead up type. Riewoldt to be double teamed and we play a man loose off half back.

Vlastuin worrys me, maybe short comes in for him.

Conca and Ellis hmmmm.......
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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #586 on: March 12, 2017, 09:29:50 AM »
Short in for Conca. Menadue for BEllis. Bolton for titch. Lennon for Grigg. Chol in for Griff.

Not our current best but what I see our best for the future.
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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #587 on: March 12, 2017, 09:43:03 AM »
Short in for Conca. Menadue for BEllis. Bolton for titch. Lennon for Grigg. Chol in for Griff.

Not our current best but what I see our best for the future.

Titch played well yesterday. Would keep him in definitely and drop Houli hoops instead
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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #588 on: March 12, 2017, 09:49:03 AM »
I still don't know who the best 22 are but let's have another crack;

Conca         Astbury        Grimes
Markov       Rance           McIntosh
Grigg          Cotchin        B. Ellis
Edwards     Riewoldt       Rioli
Castagna    Martin          Griffiths

Nankervis   Vlastuin       Prestia

Int Caddy Lloyd Miles Butler

No Houli and Hunt please and i would also have Menadue and Short in the side but that won't happen.

Agree Houli is an absolute liability. He plays we lose.

Griff in the fwd line only if he is 100% fit. Chol comes to mind for a key tall however endurance is still sub-afl. Maybe Lennon comes in as a lead up type. Riewoldt to be double teamed and we play a man loose off half back.

Vlastuin worrys me, maybe short comes in for him.

Conca and Ellis hmmmm.......

Its Lloyd or Lennon for mine and i would prefer B. Ellis not to be in the team and should be replaced with Menadue or Short. I like Conca and see him as a must :o

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #589 on: March 12, 2017, 09:57:45 AM »
Short         Astbury        Grimes
Markov       Rance           McIntosh
Grigg          Cotchin        Vlastuin
Caddy        Reiwoldt       Martin
Edwards        Chol         Rioli

Nankervis      Miles       Prestia

Int Castagna Lennon Menadue Lloyd

Like a few have mentioned, try playing lennon as a focal point fwd rather than on the periphery. Couldnt find room for Conca, BEllis and Griff

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #590 on: March 12, 2017, 04:01:09 PM »
Short         Astbury        Grimes
Markov       Rance           McIntosh
Grigg          Cotchin        Vlastuin
Caddy        Reiwoldt       Martin
Edwards        Chol         Rioli

Nankervis      Miles       Prestia

Int Castagna Lennon Menadue Lloyd

Like a few have mentioned, try playing lennon as a focal point fwd rather than on the periphery. Couldnt find room for Conca, BEllis and Griff
Agree with all of that except Grigg. Time to move on from him.

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #591 on: March 12, 2017, 06:50:31 PM »
Short         Astbury        Grimes
Markov       Rance           McIntosh
Grigg          Cotchin        Vlastuin
Caddy        Reiwoldt       Martin
Edwards        Chol         Rioli

Nankervis      Miles       Prestia

Int Castagna Lennon Menadue Lloyd

Like a few have mentioned, try playing lennon as a focal point fwd rather than on the periphery. Couldnt find room for Conca, BEllis and Griff
Agree with all of that except Grigg. Time to move on from him.

Ideally yes. Just need the next gen to replace the fob 4 first - Appaul McConcna, Ringo sHunt, Georgsher Howlison, and BranJohn Ellennon. Then Grigg is gone.
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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #592 on: March 12, 2017, 07:00:55 PM »
Short         Astbury        Grimes
Markov       Rance           McIntosh
Grigg          Cotchin        Vlastuin
Caddy        Reiwoldt       Martin
Edwards        Chol         Rioli

Nankervis      Miles       Prestia

Int Castagna Lennon Menadue Lloyd

Like a few have mentioned, try playing lennon as a focal point fwd rather than on the periphery. Couldnt find room for Conca, BEllis and Griff
Agree with all of that except Grigg. Time to move on from him.

Ideally yes. Just need the next gen to replace the fob 4 first - Appaul McConcna, Ringo sHunt, Georgsher Howlison, and BranJohn Ellennon. Then Grigg is gone.
You are probably right, he is a touch more valuable than those other 4 but he still needs to go too. A side without those 5 replaced with young, enthusiastic, fast and hardworking kids would make us a better side not only now but with the chance of being a very good side in the future.

I really hope Dimma grows some balls this year and picks the team on form and an eye on the future in stead of just his favourites or first round selections.

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Who will the Tigers pick for Round 1? .... (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #593 on: March 13, 2017, 01:45:56 PM »
Who will the Tigers pick for Round 1?


JON RALPH,
Herald Sun
March 13, 2017


DAMIEN Hardwick will have his best 22 available and injury-free for Thursday week’s season opener against Carlton.

Now after exciting pre-season auditions by rookies Jason Castagna and Mabior Chol he has eight days to decide exactly who to pick.

Jack Riewoldt is in no doubt for that clash despite an ankle roll against Collingwood, while fellow key forward Ben Griffiths is also fit to play.

He suffered a kick to the calf against Port Adelaide but was withdrawn late as a precaution in Saturday’s narrow loss to Collingwood.

The Tigers have until Tuesday week to elevate their nominated rookie and can play a second rookie after Shaun Hampson went onto the long-term injury list.

Hampson is joined by only Steve Morris (ACL) on the injury list of players in senior contention.

Castagna looks a lock to be elevated after kicking 5.3 in a trio of JLT series games in a new-look Tigers forward line built on speed from smaller players.

But Chol’s intriguing performance after replacing Griffiths will give the Tigers match committee food for thought ahead of that decision.

The Sudanese rookie crashed packs, used his breakaway speed to worry Collingwood and kicked a goal from three shots.

On form he sits only behind Riewoldt and Griffiths as tall marking forwards, with mid-sizers Lloyd and Ben Lennon also in the mix.

Lennon kicked seven goals in the VFL on Friday night as Kamdyn McIntosh and Ivan Maric also went back to boost their game time.

Carlton and Richmond’s VFL teams next play on Thursday week at Punt Road before the MCG season opener.

The Blues look in similarly good health, with only ruckmen Daniel Gorringe, Andrew Phillips, defender Ciaran Byrne and first-round pick Sam Petrevski-Seton on the injury list.

Chol was seen to need much more development but could be elevated next week even if not played in Round 1.

“We are pretty fortunate in a way we have got a number of rookies playing well. Castagna has been playing good football, Mabior Chol I thought was terrific in bits and pieces and you can see what he can do going forward,’’ Hardwick said.

“Then big (ruckman) Ivan Soldo, the big fella at the end was really exciting for us.

“It’s a great position to be in. We have got two positions available and they are good questions to have coming into Round 1.”

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/damien-hardwick-will-have-his-best-players-available-and-injuryfree-for-richmonds-round-1-clash/news-story/abbc00bb9102f5cfc36fe3ad8207e677

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #594 on: March 14, 2017, 04:45:19 PM »
Who plays for your club in round one?

Nathan Schmook
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14 March 2017


IT'S RARE, if not completely impossible, for a club to have its unchallenged best 22 available at any time.

With round one approaching, AFL.com.au reporters have had a stab at picking their best 22 for the season opener for every club, leaving out those players who are injured, suspended or will miss due to poor form.

RICHMOND

Carlton v RICHMOND, MCG, Thursday, March 23, 7:20pm AEDT

B: Dylan Grimes, David Astbury, Reece Conca
HB: Bachar Houli, Alex Rance, Brandon Ellis
C: Shane Edwards, Dustin Martin, Shaun Grigg
HF: Josh Caddy, Ben Griffiths, Nick Vlastuin
F: Daniel Rioli, Jack Riewoldt, Sam Lloyd
Foll: Toby Nankervis, Trent Cotchin, Dion Prestia
I/C: Anthony Miles, Kamdyn McIntosh, Jason Castagna, Dan Butler

New faces: Dan Butler, Josh Caddy, Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia

Missing with injury/suspension: Shaun Hampson (back, indefinite); Steve Morris (knee, 1-2 weeks); Jack Graham (hamstring, 1-2 weeks)

Notes:
Brandon Ellis has been backed to move into defence and will likely get first crack as a rebounder in round one. His form needs to improve, however, with Kamdyn McIntosh (named on the bench) and Oleg Markov other options here. Reece Conca has also returned as a small defender, forcing Jayden Short out of the team. Speed and defensive pressure should ensure Jason Castagna and Dan Butler get their chance in a smaller forward line. Nick Vlastuin is also selected as a midfielder/forward having trained and played there all pre-season. Connor Menadue, Corey Ellis and Markov are part of the future, but a lack of minutes and influence in the JLT Community Series means they're likely to be overlooked against the Blues. Mabior Chol is waiting in the wings if Ben Griffiths doesn't hit form soon, or the Tigers decide they need more forward line height and ruck support. 

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-03-14/who-plays-in-round-one

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #595 on: October 21, 2017, 05:24:39 PM »
Obvious now but looking back to the start of the year in the above post, Lambert (3rd in our B&F), Graham, Broad & Townsend really did come out of nowhere. They weren't even mentioned as being on the fringe of our best 22 back then. Now they are premiership players and all played key parts throughout the finals.

Start of the season ---> Grand Final
Miles was replaced by Lambert
Lloyd was replaced by Graham
Conca was replaced by Broad
Griffiths was replaced by Townsend

The remaining 18 played throughout the whole season together.


Best 22: How your club could line up in 2018

Dinny Navaratnam
afl.com.au
21 October 2017


RICHMOND

B: Dylan Grimes, Alex Rance, Bachar Houli
HB: Brandon Ellis, David Astbury, Nick Vlastuin
C: Kamdyn McIntosh, Dustin Martin, Kane Lambert
HF: Shane Edwards, Jack Riewoldt, Daniel Rioli
F: Jacob Townsend, Josh Caddy, Daniel Butler
R: Toby Nankervis, Trent Cotchin, Dion Prestia
INT: Shaun Grigg, Jack Graham, Nathan Broad, Jason Castagna

NOTES: This wasn't a hard team to put together, since the Tigers basically had a full list to pick from for the Grand Final and no players were traded in. On the fringes, the likes of Shai Bolton and Sam Lloyd have shown enough to indicate they could slot into the best-22 up forward, while Corey Ellis has the class to make this side better. If Damien Hardwick opts to pick a second tall in the forward line, Ben Griffiths looms as the obvious candidate, if he can overcome his concussion issues.

REMAINING SENIOR LIST: Jake Batchelor, Shai Bolton, Reece Conca, Nathan Drummond, Corey Ellis, Ryan Garthwaite, Ben Griffiths, Shaun Hampson, Ben Lennon, Sam Lloyd, Oleg Markov, Connor Menadue, Anthony Miles, Jayden Short

REMAINING ROOKIE LIST: Mabior Chol, Callum Moore, Ivan Soldo, Tyson Stengle

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/anthony-miles-has-to-decide-whether-to-stay-at-richmond-or-find-a-new-home/news-story/7e45e5f0a515a3d7059e50855e463b54

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #596 on: October 21, 2017, 06:13:13 PM »
How lucky were we with injuries. But maybe that's the game style reminiscent of the swans.