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Re: Pick 33: Liam McBean
« Reply #45 on: November 23, 2012, 11:58:07 AM »
The mcbean pole.
welcom aboard son, you have 2 1/2 years to be carving it up before the ferals turn on ya, if your lucky.

Nah, you're wrong Al, it takes 4-5 years to develop a big man.   ::)

Dean Putt.

Needs to put on a touch under 20kgs without losing much speed or agility thats the risk and the doubt but if he can do it he could be a good AFL player.
okay ive calmed down a bit since yesterday.

they say hes a ruckman well and good we need a developing ruckman.
at pick 33 we take a bloke who needs to put on a touch under 20kgs, without losing speed and agility, wwe take a bloke who played more as a defender so its fair to ask is he a ruckman. we take on a bloke at 33 who it seems to me doesnt take a lot of marks but hes got good speed and agility. we take a bloke who is very much a long term development propisition at 33.

we take him at 33 despite having a similar more talented player in vickery with todd elton also there.

im sorry people i dont see him as a first ruck i see him playing kp.
now that we have him im going to give him at least 4 yrs to play a game im not against the player himself he may turn out to be a good one im a little narky at where we took him and im questioning what type of player he actually is. is he a ruckman or is he a defender.

in fact i dont have a problem with any of the kids we took its not a crack at the players.
all im doing is questioning the type of player we took and asking did we address any long term needs.
we took a supposed ruckman who may not be a ruckman. if we wanted a ruckman who will take over from ivan in time why not a pure ruckman and probably later in the draft.
we took a tall defender who is supposed to be a mid dont get me wrong i really like mcintosh as a player. astbury,griffiths,rance,chaplin, darrou, grimes, mcguane not enough defenders on the list for them its hardly a pressing need.
we took a small forward who they hope can in time play midfield why not take a genuine mid especially after shoring up the sml/med forwards  with mature players.
seems to me we  continually take players of one type and then try to turn them into something different  if we want a mid why not take a proven mid with such a good pick as 31.

anyway those who have been taken i say welcome you will have my support
to those in charge i  say. i question the logic the management and the types we have taken in relation to list management. i am asking have we addressed the ruck situation have we addressed the lack of tall forwards, and have we addressed the huge lack of genuine mids.
cant say we have.

what we do have in abundance now is  tall defenders and small/med forwards. but we had them covered before the draft.


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Re: Pick 33: Liam McBean
« Reply #46 on: November 23, 2012, 12:13:40 PM »
Being a mad tiger fan I'm not as worried that should he develop he may leave.....Certainly worth a try and would have gone much earlier in previous, non midfielder centric drafts.

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Re: Pick 33: Liam McBean
« Reply #47 on: November 23, 2012, 12:24:04 PM »
The mcbean pole.
welcom aboard son, you have 2 1/2 years to be carving it up before the ferals turn on ya, if your lucky.

Nah, you're wrong Al, it takes 4-5 years to develop a big man.   ::)

Dean Putt.

Needs to put on a touch under 20kgs without losing much speed or agility thats the risk and the doubt but if he can do it he could be a good AFL player.
okay ive calmed down a bit since yesterday.

they say hes a ruckman well and good we need a developing ruckman.
at pick 33 we take a bloke who needs to put on a touch under 20kgs, without losing speed and agility, wwe take a bloke who played more as a defender so its fair to ask is he a ruckman. we take on a bloke at 33 who it seems to me doesnt take a lot of marks but hes got good speed and agility. we take a bloke who is very much a long term development propisition at 33.

we take him at 33 despite having a similar more talented player in vickery with todd elton also there.

im sorry people i dont see him as a first ruck i see him playing kp.
now that we have him im going to give him at least 4 yrs to play a game im not against the player himself he may turn out to be a good one im a little narky at where we took him and im questioning what type of player he actually is. is he a ruckman or is he a defender.

in fact i dont have a problem with any of the kids we took its not a crack at the players.
all im doing is questioning the type of player we took and asking did we address any long term needs.
we took a supposed ruckman who may not be a ruckman. if we wanted a ruckman who will take over from ivan in time why not a pure ruckman and probably later in the draft.
we took a tall defender who is supposed to be a mid dont get me wrong i really like mcintosh as a player. astbury,griffiths,rance,chaplin, darrou, grimes, mcguane not enough defenders on the list for them its hardly a pressing need.
we took a small forward who they hope can in time play midfield why not take a genuine mid especially after shoring up the sml/med forwards  with mature players.
seems to me we  continually take players of one type and then try to turn them into something different  if we want a mid why not take a proven mid with such a good pick as 31.

anyway those who have been taken i say welcome you will have my support
to those in charge i  say. i question the logic the management and the types we have taken in relation to list management. i am asking have we addressed the ruck situation have we addressed the lack of tall forwards, and have we addressed the huge lack of genuine mids.
cant say we have.

what we do have in abundance now is  tall defenders and small/med forwards. but we had them covered before the draft.

I don't get your issue, you've prattled on for weeks we need more defenders and ruckmen and complained that when we said we were taking midfielders that we didnt need any? Now we get one that could be taken as either but you say its a poo choice cause we suddenly have enough backs, and that he is not really a ruckman and go on about needing mids. You can't be made happy can you?

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Re: Pick 33: Liam McBean
« Reply #48 on: November 23, 2012, 12:53:22 PM »
You can send a welcome/congrats message to Liam McBean on twitter: https://twitter.com/liammcbean

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Re: Pick 33: Liam McBean
« Reply #49 on: November 23, 2012, 12:58:22 PM »
Beaner, Vicks, Griff, Toddy - thats 4 x 200cm+ blokes that are quick, agile, good marks and good kicks

Vicks can play FWD/Ruck
Griff can play Back/FWD
Toddy can play FWD/Back/Ruck
Beaner can play Ruck/Back/FWD

Add Jack, what a future spine :clapping

FB: Griff
CHB: Elton
R: Beaner
CHF: Vickery
FF: Jack

 :cheers

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Re: Pick 33: Liam McBean
« Reply #50 on: November 23, 2012, 01:37:31 PM »
The mcbean pole.
welcom aboard son, you have 2 1/2 years to be carving it up before the ferals turn on ya, if your lucky.

Nah, you're wrong Al, it takes 4-5 years to develop a big man.   ::)

Dean Putt.

Needs to put on a touch under 20kgs without losing much speed or agility thats the risk and the doubt but if he can do it he could be a good AFL player.
okay ive calmed down a bit since yesterday.

they say hes a ruckman well and good we need a developing ruckman.
at pick 33 we take a bloke who needs to put on a touch under 20kgs, without losing speed and agility, wwe take a bloke who played more as a defender so its fair to ask is he a ruckman. we take on a bloke at 33 who it seems to me doesnt take a lot of marks but hes got good speed and agility. we take a bloke who is very much a long term development propisition at 33.

we take him at 33 despite having a similar more talented player in vickery with todd elton also there.

im sorry people i dont see him as a first ruck i see him playing kp.
now that we have him im going to give him at least 4 yrs to play a game im not against the player himself he may turn out to be a good one im a little narky at where we took him and im questioning what type of player he actually is. is he a ruckman or is he a defender.

in fact i dont have a problem with any of the kids we took its not a crack at the players.
all im doing is questioning the type of player we took and asking did we address any long term needs.
we took a supposed ruckman who may not be a ruckman. if we wanted a ruckman who will take over from ivan in time why not a pure ruckman and probably later in the draft.
we took a tall defender who is supposed to be a mid dont get me wrong i really like mcintosh as a player. astbury,griffiths,rance,chaplin, darrou, grimes, mcguane not enough defenders on the list for them its hardly a pressing need.
we took a small forward who they hope can in time play midfield why not take a genuine mid especially after shoring up the sml/med forwards  with mature players.
seems to me we  continually take players of one type and then try to turn them into something different  if we want a mid why not take a proven mid with such a good pick as 31.

anyway those who have been taken i say welcome you will have my support
to those in charge i  say. i question the logic the management and the types we have taken in relation to list management. i am asking have we addressed the ruck situation have we addressed the lack of tall forwards, and have we addressed the huge lack of genuine mids.
cant say we have.

what we do have in abundance now is  tall defenders and small/med forwards. but we had them covered before the draft.

I don't get your issue, you've prattled on for weeks we need more defenders and ruckmen and complained that when we said we were taking midfielders that we didnt need any? Now we get one that could be taken as either but you say its a poo choice cause we suddenly have enough backs, and that he is not really a ruckman and go on about needing mids. You can't be made happy can you?
the only comment i can make to that is you obviously read peoples posts but nothing they say actually sinks in.

have constanly said now read closely and take your time.
if as the club says both griffiths and astbury are defenders we need at least
 2 kpfs.

before the f/a period i regularly said we need a 195 cm plus 100kg defender we got him about a month ago. kudos to them it only took em 7 yrs to do it.

have constantly said we are at least that is a minimum of 4 genuine mids short on the list.

i have regularly said we are at least two genuine ruckmen short one long term one short term. yes they think mcbean is a long term ruckman im not so sure . i certainly would not have used 33 on him. but kudos to them for taking one.

if i go by what the club has said this off season the three biggest weaknesses in the list were
 mids ffs we needed at least 4. have harped on about this.

kpfs going by what they say, griffiths and astbury are defenders then  we have just 3 elton, riewoldt,vickery if hes not a ruckman.  and if we must include the hack of hacks mcguane that would make 4. have harped on about this.

ruckman see my first paragraph.  even if i concede, yes they think they drafted a young ruckman which is fair enough i have issues with it.

we took 1mid, 1 ruckman of sorts a bit too early imo, 1 sml forward 1 tall defender who is supposed to be a mid well we will see in time wont we. what area did we target theres a bit of window dressing in a lot of areas the way i see it.

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Re: Pick 33: Liam McBean
« Reply #51 on: November 23, 2012, 01:43:32 PM »
Beaner, Vicks, Griff, Toddy - thats 4 x 200cm+ blokes that are quick, agile, good marks and good kicks

Vicks can play FWD/Ruck
Griff can play Back/FWD
Toddy can play FWD/Back/Ruck
Beaner can play Ruck/Back/FWD

Add Jack, what a future spine :clapping

FB: Griff
CHB: Elton
R: Beaner
CHF: Vickery
FF: Jack

 :cheers
talk about hedgiing our bets
you have a ff at fb
a ruck / forward at chb
a ruckman whos more likely a kpp at ruck
a ruckman at chf
and jack.
without a doubt our best tall players are jack grimes and ivan seems to me they specialise in one position.we arent trying to turn them into something they are not.

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Re: Pick 33: Liam McBean
« Reply #52 on: November 23, 2012, 01:56:42 PM »
You can send a welcome/congrats message to Liam McBean on twitter: https://twitter.com/liammcbean

He's already sledging Brandon Ellis.  :lol

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Re: Pick 33: Liam McBean
« Reply #53 on: November 23, 2012, 01:58:52 PM »
You can send a welcome/congrats message to Liam McBean on twitter: https://twitter.com/liammcbean

He's already sledging Brandon Ellis.  :lol

Who did Liam support before being drafted?
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Re: Pick 33: Liam McBean
« Reply #54 on: November 23, 2012, 02:00:31 PM »
You can send a welcome/congrats message to Liam McBean on twitter: https://twitter.com/liammcbean

He's already sledging Brandon Ellis.  :lol

Who did Liam support before being drafted?

The best one.

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Re: Pick 33: Liam McBean
« Reply #55 on: November 23, 2012, 02:02:42 PM »
You can send a welcome/congrats message to Liam McBean on twitter: https://twitter.com/liammcbean

He's already sledging Brandon Ellis.  :lol

Who did Liam support before being drafted?

The best one.

So he was a Tiges fan? You sure?
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HHAAARRRGGGHHHH HHHHAAARRRGGGHHHH HHHHHAAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHH

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Re: Pick 33: Liam McBean
« Reply #56 on: November 23, 2012, 02:03:52 PM »
You can send a welcome/congrats message to Liam McBean on twitter: https://twitter.com/liammcbean

He's already sledging Brandon Ellis.  :lol

Who did Liam support before being drafted?

The best one.

So he was a Tiges fan? You sure?

Yer he was asked on twitter today.

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Re: Pick 33: Liam McBean
« Reply #57 on: November 23, 2012, 02:05:52 PM »
You can send a welcome/congrats message to Liam McBean on twitter: https://twitter.com/liammcbean

He's already sledging Brandon Ellis.  :lol

Who did Liam support before being drafted?

The best one.

So he was a Tiges fan? You sure?

Yer he was asked on twitter today.

How about the other guys? I know Vlastuin was a Pies fan..
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Re: Pick 33: Liam McBean
« Reply #58 on: November 23, 2012, 02:08:26 PM »
You can send a welcome/congrats message to Liam McBean on twitter: https://twitter.com/liammcbean

He's already sledging Brandon Ellis.  :lol

Who did Liam support before being drafted?

The best one.

So he was a Tiges fan? You sure?

Yer he was asked on twitter today.

How about the other guys? I know Vlastuin was a Pies fan..

No idea. Vlastuin said he was a Pie and the others you'd presume go for teams in their state as the most likely.

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Re: Pick 33: Liam McBean
« Reply #59 on: November 23, 2012, 02:09:53 PM »
Actually there's a 7 News video on McIntosh and there's a Carltank sticker on his family's car.