Liam McBean [merged]

[tony_montana]

I've seen enough. Playing like a cardboard cut out .

Replace with Chol asap.

From what Ive seen from both, Id go Chol easily

[TigerLand]

Agree Chol must be given a go.

[pmac21]

Simply not hard enough and can't take a pack mark. Skills are brilliant but not as a key forward

[Willy]

I honestly thought he was OK.

I want to see him play a couple more games at least.

[wayne]

We're that poo that we can't even fake boost his trade value by letting him kick some cheapies.

5 goals for the game and the ball kicked back and forth from Rance, Grimes and Vlaustin doesn't give the forwards much hope.

[Owl]

Gets mugged too easily but he still does some cunning poo when you think he has been beaten.  He manages to sneak a deft mitt out to tap the ball to advantage when getting pack mauled, just little things that show he has some good awareness, and smarts...just needs some stuffing meat on his bones to hold his own.

[big tone]

Gets mugged too easily but he still does some cunning poo when you think he has been beaten.  He manages to sneak a deft mitt out to tap the ball to advantage when getting pack mauled, just little things that show he has some good awareness, and smarts...just needs some stuffing meat on his bones to hold his own.

Well said Owl.
But some in here would prefer to watch BEllis run around and get 30 pointless sideways kicks.

[Yeahright]

  at Dimma being right all along that he needed more time.

[the claw]

Gotta keep playing him.
Has never been my cup of tea as a fwd so to speak. Even if he had  size and more strength he just doesnt project  as an aerial player.Just my opinion but at 200cm fwd he needs to be far better than average in the air.

I still think we hang onto him and actually develop  him as a defender.

With Chaplin, McKenzie retired  and likely Vickery going we can not afford to cut or lose any more talls this year.
Also it seems with Elton  they are now reverting back to him being a fwd  if this is the case we bloody need tall defenders as badly as the human body needs a heart or more relevant B Ellis.

[Diocletian]

at Dimma being right all along that he needed more time.

Can you be sure he would've played the same if these games had been say his 23rd-25th instead of his 3rd-5th?

His best game was arguably his debut v Collingwood over a year ago....what if he'd been kept in instead of dropped straight away and only bought back for the Essendon match two weeks later to play on Fletcher in his 400th, then dropped again?

[Willy]

Dude's still only 21.

He's a baby in KPP terms.

[MintOnLamb]

Dude's still only 21.

He's a baby in KPP terms.

exactamundo Willy, He is the sort of player clubs target, we draft him and because he isn't a superstar immediately, leave him in the VFL.

everyone knows these tall blokes take a while to develop if ever. So another club can pick him up after our 4 years of development.

If he was on another list we would probably be having a go at him ourselves.

IMHO Hardwick should be taken right away from list management, as decisions he makes now will not be relevant as he won't be there after next year.

Liam needs to be kept and played. He is not costing us a fortune and his upside is pretty good.

He does a lot of 1% stuff off the ball and in the contest that Vickery probably doesn't even see.

[Owl]

yep, does some clever stuff, needs a good feed or two

[YellowandBlackBlood]

yep, does some clever stuff, needs a good feed or two

Needs to nail shots from 30m out. He is only a forward. He is there to kick goals or at least create goals for others.

[🏅Dooks]

Dude's still only 21.

He's a baby in KPP terms.

exactamundo Willy, He is the sort of player clubs target, we draft him and because he isn't a superstar immediately, leave him in the VFL.

everyone knows these tall blokes take a while to develop if ever. So another club can pick him up after our 4 years of development.

If he was on another list we would probably be having a go at him ourselves.

IMHO Hardwick should be taken right away from list management, as decisions he makes now will not be relevant as he won't be there after next year.

Liam needs to be kept and played. He is not costing us a fortune and his upside is pretty good.

He does a lot of 1% stuff off the ball and in the contest that Vickery probably doesn't even see.

Needs at least a couple of years in the seniors before we make a call.