Sam Lonergan [merged]

[Penelope]

 

[Phil Mrakov]

[Judge Roughneck]

May be worth up purely for the fact the coburg forward line might see some ball this year.

Otherwise the development of Elton, Asturias, petard, mcbean etc. will be hampered if the ball didn't see them.

[RedanTiger]

Mrakov are you prepared to put game numbers on the other recruits?.....pettard,edwards,etc

Yes.
Petterd  1-10 games delisted
Edwards  10-15 games delisted
Orenn  1-2 games delisted

Wouldn't be so sure of the delistings.
Petterd is an improvement on MacDonald and King.
Lonergan is an improvement on Webberley and White.
Stephenson is an improvement on Browne and Derickx.
So there's a fair chance they will be kept on before King, White and Derickx.

Surely this shows how poor the list is that Cameron and Jackson have assembled when they demonstrate that delisted players from other clubs are better than what we have already.

[gerkin greg]

Pettard is no upgrade on King

Soft as a curried ass at four o'clock in the morning, no work rate, had about 3 tackles in 8 years

Kingy prob even kicks more goals

LMFAO

Another CC special melbdud

[Judge Roughneck]

Gets more ball

[gerkin greg]

Who?

[Loui Tufga]

Who?

Gerg....and Planty

[gerkin greg]

Gerg gets a shitload of balls

[Judge Roughneck]

Without looking at stats I'd guess pettard gets more if the pill to kingy.

Grigg is indeed a good outside player

[the claw]

Inb4theclawmentionsmoloney

lol did i mention moloney that much.
to be honest im happy for them to give lonergan a go as a rookie. needless to say i would have liked moloney as well along with a couple of other genuine mids.

we need mids last time i looked lonergan is a mid. not my cup of tea but who knows he has to be an upgrade on the likes of jackson  white and nahas in the midfield they all got games last yr.

the way to look at is from the perspective of players capable of putting pressure on the starting 22

at richmond or very similar.
b/ morris - chaplin - grimes
hb/ batchelor - rance - newman
c/  grigg - tuck - deledio
hf/ edwards - riewoldt - martin
f/ vickery - griffiths - edwards
r/ maric -  cotchin - foley
int/ conca - ellis - helbig - vlastuin.

at coburg with the mature players i wanted plus a few the club took.

dea - darrou - verrier
mcintosh - astbury - houli
k martin - moloney - nahas
ohanlon - elton - petterd.
s martin - howson - mcdonough
hannath - arnot  - dwyer
king  - jackson - lonergan  - mcbean

that is 44 players and coburg is set up in a like for like manner which is basically the whole idea of setting up a stand alone club.
hannath and s martin put pressure on maric and vickery  gives us some cover if one or both are injured. they are not one yr propisitions.
dea verrier and houli could come in as cover to the sml medium defenders.
mcintosh astbury and darrou are a like for like in a way for the kpds in the ones. astbury is probably the only one ready to play afl but i do have hopes of mcintosh playing almost straight away as a tall running defender.
k martin moloney lonergan dwyer arnot give us mid field options if injury hits imo moloney would have easily been starting 22. king jackson nahas give coburg decent numbers in mids with these blokes. personally i would like us to fiddle with the list a bit more and take at least 3 more young genuine mids.
o hanlon petterd and mcdonough gives us sml /med forward cover and development opportunities
and howson and elton gives us tall forwards and just  a few development opportunities in the kpfs.

alas this is all now nothing more than wishful thinking and is not to be.it will be my last post on this subject for awhile.

last yr i pushed hard for wilkes lee horsley  and duffy.  sundberg spurr and dwyer along with a few others.
this yr it was lee and duffy until they got taken pretty early from there it was moloney hannath  s martin k martin sam dwyer along with others.

come mid/ late this  yr most likely, i will have others i will push for. for now its all done and dusted and its time to stop peeing people off and move on.

any way all the best to sam lonergan you just never know still think kicking and pace will make it hard on him.

[Judge Roughneck]

Would you be happy thou to pay moleys salary ? 

[Judge Roughneck]

While you are correct Maloney would have been best 22. However to accommodate him who drops out; conca/Ellis/helbig/blasting/dea. It feel this would be negative to the clubs future overall, in a big picture point of view.

[Phil Mrakov]

ermagherrd

serm lernegern

[the claw]

Would you be happy thou to pay moleys salary ?

yes.  its not that much above the average.

who misses out can i ask if knights plays who misses out if lonergan plays who misses out. as it is i reckon most would have houli in the side id play molney every day of the week in front of houli.
 but the one id drop every day of the week is jackson.   i think we would easily get better value out of moloney than newman. id certainly be dropping one of king or nahas if not both for an extra genuine mid the options are endless.

surely if we have a competitive and vibrant 2nds team,  developing kids there is not a problem.
the way i look at it is moloney is  easily best 22 but he sure as hell would provide ready made cover if tuck or god forbid foley doesnt come up again. imo foley and moloney rotating of the bench would compliment each other enormously.
anyway as i said its all done and dusted we go with what we have. time for me to move on.