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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1005 on: July 26, 2013, 02:31:37 PM »
Now we just need the return of Kim Duthie

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1006 on: July 26, 2013, 03:38:58 PM »
is he of age yet?
surely she'd be looking for a nude photo shoot once she is?
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1007 on: July 26, 2013, 11:04:35 PM »
Mark Stevens tonight on Ch 7 reckons it's a given Essendon will lose all their points and won't play finals this year. Seems Hird has burnt his britches taking on Andy D and City Hall and they are now ready to hand the Bombers an almighty whack.

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« Reply #1008 on: July 26, 2013, 11:09:11 PM »
Mark Stevens tonight on Ch 7 reckons it's a given Essendon will lose all their points and won't play finals this year. Seems Hird has burnt his britches taking on Andy D and City Hall and they are now ready to hand the Bombers an almighty whack.

Thanks Mark Stevens- YOU stuffwit.

We all worked that out on our own
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1009 on: July 27, 2013, 12:31:03 AM »
poo just hit the fan bigtime

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1011 on: July 27, 2013, 03:13:19 AM »
Hird's emotional post-game outburst: 'We are not drug cheats'

    Brent Diamond
    The Age
    July 27, 2013


"We are confident that we are not drug cheats. And the sooner this thing is over, the better for everyone,'' Hird said.

"This is affecting so many people's lives. It has got to the point that, if it's not over very quickly, it's going to affect people's lives permanently.

"And it has just got to finish, it has to finish. Because it's not fair on so many people.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-coach-james-hird-says-lives-could-be-affected-by-drugs-investigation/story-fni5f6kv-1226686618813
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/hirds-emotional-postgame-outburst-we-are-not-drug-cheats-20130727-2qqgt.html

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AFL boss Andrew Demetriou says he knows who leaked information of his telephone call with Essendon chairman David Evans during an emergency meeting at the Bombers, but stopped short of claiming it was James Hird.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/demetriou-refuses-to-name-leak-20130726-2qpwu.html

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1012 on: July 27, 2013, 04:40:13 AM »
Is it affecting lives in the way that drugs untested on human beings affect lives?

Is it affecting lives in the way a leader of a sporting entity does by showing zero responsibility for events that lead to long term health disorders?

Is it affecting lives in the way that this same person is, to thousands, a role model but is currently selling nothing but bare faced lies ?
 
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1013 on: July 27, 2013, 04:45:26 AM »
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-fears-drug-deceit-20130726-2qq3f.html


So let them sue the company once they have been suspended and stripped of points.
Fact is, they have USED banned substances.
It's like saying to the cops, you're drink was spiked so you shouldn't be fined for driving off your face.
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Police may be called in to investigate allegations that Essendon players were deceived into taking part in a secret drug trial.

Fairfax Media can reveal the Melbourne company behind the drug AOD-9604 has used the test results of four ''professional footballers'' in legal documents to justify claims that its product adds ''muscle mass'', aids recovery and increases ''exercise tolerance''.

The drug has not been approved for human use anywhere and, as such, is banned by the World Anti-Doping Agency.

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The claims in a December 2012 patent application by Melbourne company Metabolic Pharmaceuticals, made without the knowledge of the footballers, came just months after the Essendon supplements program collapsed and its instigator, Stephen Dank, was sacked by the club.

The application, which was based on in-vitro research on animal cells and tests on rabbits, does not specify which club the footballers are from. But Fairfax Media has confirmed that the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority believes it to be Essendon.

Acting Essendon chief executive Ray Gunston said on Friday night the club was ''extremely concerned about this allegation''.

''We will be sending this documentation on to both the AFL and ASADA and will be seeking their advice,'' he said. ''It would be very concerning to the club if any of our players, or information about our players, were used in this way.''

The supplements program, described by Essendon's investigator, Ziggy Switkowski, as a ''pharmacologically experimental environment'', had an unspecified number of players given AOD-9604 at a volume and frequency far exceeding that of its clinical trials.

ASADA has questioned Metabolic chief executive David Kenley over the use of AOD-9604 in Essendon players and whether he had financial ties to any club officials.

ASADA investigators are also believed to have examined detailed player performance records showing that some have been unable to match their 2012 training performances since the supplements program lapsed.

Essendon players found to have been effectively used as virtual human guinea pigs may have the option of lodging criminal complaints of assault and be able to launch civil action over future health concerns, several well-placed sources have suggested.

Players signed forms consenting to the use of the drug but they are understood to have been unaware that its effect was being measured and allegedly passed to external parties with a financial interest.

The patent application claims AOD-9604's performance-enhancing effects include ''an increase in muscle mass'' and ''to promote muscle recovery from injury or trauma or damage or overuse through training''.

The Metabolic documents refer to a 24-year-old professional footballer with a calf tear, a 22-year-old professional footballer with a hamstring tear, a 23-year-old with a shoulder tendon injury and a 24-year-old with a corked quad muscle.

Each study describes AOD-9604 being applied to injured tissue and concludes that footballers recovered faster than expected, with pain associated with the injury found to ''diminish quite rapidly''.

In the case of the player with the calf injury, the study found: ''The athlete's injury was resolved in two weeks. This was considerably a reduction in time frame given the original nature of the injury.''

Since the drugs-in-sport scandal broke in February, Metabolic and Essendon have sought to play down the supposed performance-enhancing effects of AOD-9604.

In a statement to the Australian Stock Exchange in April, Metabolic's parent company, Calzada Limited, said: ''There is no evidence that AOD-9604 dosing increases the number of muscle or cartilage cells.''

Mr Dank has repeatedly denied providing anything harmful to players and last month told Fairfax Media he was unaware of information about Essendon's supplements program being passed to external parties.

Mr Kenley previously has said his company provided no financial incentive to Mr Dank.

Further comment was being sought from him about his company's patent application and its reference to tests on players.



Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-fears-drug-deceit-20130726-2qq3f.html#ixzz2aB8V02SJ
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1014 on: July 27, 2013, 05:06:53 AM »
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-fears-drug-deceit-20130726-2qq3f.html

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/baker-and-mackenzie-essendon-fears-drug-deceit.1021476/#post-29329467


oh boy woo wee
It seems each time someone from Essendon tries to cry "we're innocent" to the media (as Hird did yesterday), more info is revealed putting Essendon further into the proverbial.

If it's true a patent application for AOD-9604 as a performance enhancing drug was based on using Bomber players as guniea pigs without their consent then Essendon are truly screwed. What despicable behaviour. If further there was any financial gain to any Essendon officials involved then loss of points, loss of draft picks, etc ... will be the least of their worries.

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The Metabolic documents refer to a 24-year-old professional footballer with a calf tear, a 22-year-old professional footballer with a hamstring tear, a 23-year-old with a shoulder tendon injury and a 24-year-old with a corked quad muscle.
You could probably work out who the four are from last year's Essendon injury list.

Edit: Seems three of them are easily worked out - https://twitter.com/MattGoss_
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1015 on: July 27, 2013, 05:51:07 AM »
these pricks are gonna get off
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1016 on: July 27, 2013, 08:48:08 AM »
was it a couple of european soccer clubs that were caught match fixing and not only lost their points but were put into negative points so they actually had to win games to get back to square?

If the league had any balls, the bombers would start next season negative whatever they won this year (not knowing this until after the home and away) so depending on how they perform, it could affect them for number of years.
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1017 on: July 27, 2013, 08:59:59 AM »
Is it affecting lives in the way that drugs untested on human beings affects lives?

Is it affecting lives in the way a leader of a sporting entity does by showing zero responsibility for events that lead to long term health disorders?

Is it affecting lives in the way that this same person is, to thousands, a role model but is currently selling nothing but bare faced lies ?


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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1018 on: July 27, 2013, 11:20:25 AM »
Is it affecting lives in the way that drugs untested on human beings affects lives?

Is it affecting lives in the way a leader of a sporting entity does by showing zero responsibility for events that lead to long term health disorders?

Is it affecting lives in the way that this same person is, to thousands, a role model but is currently selling nothing but bare faced lies ?


Spot on Brackets.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1019 on: July 27, 2013, 01:00:10 PM »
James spin doctor said on radio rssendon fans on suicide watch

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