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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #3510 on: May 12, 2015, 01:45:43 PM »
While the appeal isn't an absolute surprise, essendon sound completely rattled. Before they had the luxury of keeping so much in house within the AFL. Now it is beyond all of them and all they can do is hold on for dear life. Eddie said on MMM that one of the WADA lawyers involved is the main one who went after Armstrong?

Hird is also mistaken on the difference between 'innocent' and 'not guilty.'

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #3511 on: May 12, 2015, 01:46:38 PM »
They dont know what they injected, but it definitely wasnt an illegal substance........

There's two legal versions and an illegal version. We don't know what we took but it was definitely wasn't the illegal one.

beta is the drug cheating one

alpha is for aids patients

which was is it

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #3512 on: May 12, 2015, 01:47:11 PM »
While the appeal isn't an absolute surprise, essendon sound completely rattled. Before they had the luxury of keeping so much in house within the AFL. Now it is beyond all of them and all they can do is hold on for dear life. Eddie said on MMM that one of the WADA lawyers involved is the main one who went after Armstrong?

Hird is also mistaken on the difference between 'innocent' and 'not guilty.'

Agree dwaino, media saying bombers were blindsided. Little was on SEN this morni and admitted that they had not gone through any "what if" scenarios because they didn't think WADA would appeal. What the....?

I mean how stupid was that? Then some equally delusional bomber supporter rang on and asked if the players are found guilty by WADA do the AFL have to enforce the penalties (suspensions)

Well yeah moron they do because the AFL is signatory to the WADA code..

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #3514 on: May 12, 2015, 02:38:10 PM »
Well if nothing else it will distract the pricks for another twelve months....after thinking it was finally all over not sure they'll be as "galvanised" and "brave" this time around.....
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #3515 on: May 12, 2015, 09:49:43 PM »
While the appeal isn't an absolute surprise, essendon sound completely rattled. Before they had the luxury of keeping so much in house within the AFL. Now it is beyond all of them and all they can do is hold on for dear life. Eddie said on MMM that one of the WADA lawyers involved is the main one who went after Armstrong?

Hird is also mistaken on the difference between 'innocent' and 'not guilty.'

yep, Tird said more today on 360 then he's said throughout the whole saga.

They are shetting themselves and know they're stuffed

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #3516 on: May 13, 2015, 12:25:41 AM »
The AFL tribunal set the bar too high when it came to comfortable satisfaction. Gerard Whateley said they would have found Lance Armstrong innocent with their interpretation.


I now think that the players are stuffed.
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #3517 on: May 13, 2015, 06:46:53 AM »
CAS listed the 34 players on its website, which is a breach of the WADA code so they removed it very quickly  ;D

AND BTW on this site, the list stays removed  :thumbsup

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #3518 on: May 13, 2015, 07:09:19 AM »
CAS listed the 34 players on its website, which is a breach of the WADA code so they removed it very quickly  ;D

AND BTW on this site, the list stays removed  :thumbsup
Nothing surprising in it anyway WP.......
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #3519 on: May 13, 2015, 10:04:26 AM »
CAS listed the 34 players on its website, which is a breach of the WADA code so they removed it very quickly  ;D

AND BTW on this site, the list stays removed  :thumbsup
Nothing surprising in it anyway WP.......

I know

25 of them at the presser they did after the not guilty announcement gave it all away



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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #3520 on: May 13, 2015, 12:34:43 PM »
Then some equally delusional bomber supporter rang up and asked if the players are found guilty by WADA do the AFL have to enforce the penalties (suspensions)

Well yeah moron they do because the AFL is signatory to the WADA code..

I thought that was the case as well but I also read that the AFL doesn't have to follow the bans because they can say that they found them innocent. Not sure if that's true but interesting to hear it's been said a few times

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #3521 on: May 13, 2015, 12:37:32 PM »
It's correct that the AFL don't have to enforce any sanctions by WADA but they would sacrifice a lot of integrity (whatever there is left) in doing so.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #3522 on: May 13, 2015, 01:13:59 PM »
It's correct that the AFL don't have to enforce any sanctions by WADA but they would sacrifice a lot of integrity (whatever there is left) in doing so.

I've always been of the understanding that because the AFL are a signatory to the WADA code they must follow the rules and as such any penalties imposed by WADA

But will stand corrected if that is not the case
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #3523 on: May 13, 2015, 07:03:47 PM »
That's only as long as they are a signatory. I just meant literally speaking. I can't see the AFL removing itself and drawing up its own code. That just wouldn't be a good look, and image how bad it would look if this happened again and they dealt with it in house, again. There would be no path of appeal for the plaintiff then either.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #3524 on: May 13, 2015, 09:13:16 PM »
That's only as long as they are a signatory. I just meant literally speaking. I can't see the AFL removing itself and drawing up its own code. That just wouldn't be a good look, and image how bad it would look if this happened again and they dealt with it in house, again. There would be no path of appeal for the plaintiff then either.
That's only as long as they are a signatory. I just meant literally speaking. I can't see the AFL removing itself and drawing up its own code. That just wouldn't be a good look, and image how bad it would look if this happened again and they dealt with it in house, again. There would be no path of appeal for the plaintiff then either.

The AFL actually resisted signing with WADA until the very last moment and only the threat of a loss of any government funding forced its hand.

I'd say it was for this very reason, they don't want other agencies having the power to make game changing decisions.

The AFL tribunal set the bar too high when it came to comfortable satisfaction. Gerard Whateley said they would have found Lance Armstrong innocent with their interpretation.


I now think that the players are stuffed.

Lance Armstrong confessed and even before that they had witnesses who were confessing to being involved in the same doping program and naming Armstrong as a participant.

Think about this.

You go to a pub and order light beers so you can safely drive home. It turns out that the bartender you are trusting to serve your drinks likes to lace them with vodka, but he claims it is non-alcoholic vodka. The orders for it aren't clear either way.

You weren't breathalysed on the night and there is no evidence to say that you ever consumed any vodka at all.

If the cops came around 3 years later and suspended your licence for 2 years I reckon you would be dirty.

I have hated Essendon all my life but if these players are suspended it is a disgrace.
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