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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3765 on: January 12, 2016, 10:10:35 PM »
AFL reveals contingency plan for weakened Bombers

Travis King 
AFL.com.au
January 12, 2016



THE AFL has revealed its contingency plan to ensure Essendon can field a competitive team after the Court of Arbitration for Sport's "devastating decision" to suspend 12 current Bombers for the entire 2016 season.

McLachlan announced a range of measures which were considered by the AFL Commission last month in the event of player suspensions, which include:

- Essendon having the ability to upgrade its five rookie-listed players as replacements for suspended players, as though the suspended players had long-term injuries.

- The Bombers can add 10 'top-up' players to their list, not limited to previous AFL players only.

- Existing contract values for the listed players who have been suspended shall be included in the cap.

- Extra payments to supplementary players will be included in the club's salary cap but Essendon will receive an allowance for payments to supplementary players over the cap limit.

- Melbourne, Port Adelaide, St Kilda and the Western Bulldogs will each be able to upgrade one rookie to their senior lists as a replacement player.

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McLachlan said the suspended players had been "horribly let down" by the former Essendon administration which oversaw the 2012 supplements regime.

"This is a devastating decision for the past and present players of the Essendon Football Club and the AFL feels deeply for them," McLachlan said.

"It is our view that they've been horribly let down by the administration of the time, but the club has sought to acknowledge what has happened and move on from these events.

"The welfare of the 34 affected players is paramount and we'll be working with the AFL Players' Association, the club and all players and their representatives to get them through this extraordinarily tough period."

AFL chairman Mike Fitzpatrick said Essendon's supplements scandal had been a "stain on our game" resulting in a "very harsh" punishment for the players.

"This has been a very dark period, but the last four years will not define the Essendon Football Club," Fitzpatrick said.

"It will not define Australian football.

"Essendon’s history is too important … and its future is owned by the members and supporters, and not by the last four years.

"The club has two very respected people in the new chairman, Lindsay Tanner, and new coach, John Worsfold, and the AFL is committed to doing what we can to assist the club in moving forward."

After AFL Players Association boss Paul Marsh called for the League to review its partnership with the World Anti-Doping Authority in the wake of the suspensions, Fitzpatrick said the process needed to be looked at.

"This Essendon process has taken too long, and CAS’ judgment today invites a discussion about the way the code applies to team sports in future," he said.

"We look forward to working with ASADA and WADA, and with government to keep sport clean and to protect the health and safety of players."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-01-12/afl-reveals-contingency-plan-for-weakened-bombers

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3766 on: January 12, 2016, 10:16:21 PM »
ASADA chief executive Ben McDevitt hasn't missed unleashing on Essendon and the 34 players :yep.


Bombers' 'devastating self-inflicted injury': ASADA

Adam Curley 
AFL.com.au
January 12, 2016



THE AUSTRALIAN Sports Anti-Doping Authority (ASADA) has slammed Essendon for its role in the supplements scandal that has ruined its 2016 season.

There's been widespread shock over the decision that has all but ruined the Bombers' 2016 season, but ASADA chief executive Ben McDevitt unleashed on the crippled footy club.

"This unfortunate episode has chronicled the most devastating self-inflicted injury by a sporting club in Australian history," McDevitt said in a statement released after the decision was made public.

The players – 12 of whom remain at Essendon, with five more at other AFL clubs – have received plenty of support from those inside and outside the footy world, but just like their club, they received no sympathy from ASADA.

McDevitt said that the players had been given significant anti-doping education by the AFL and ASADA, and those involved in the supplements saga had no grounds to claim that they were not at fault.

"Unfortunately, despite their education, they (the players) agreed to be injected with a number of substances they had little knowledge of, made no enquiries about the substance and kept the injections from their team doctor and ASADA," McDevitt continued.

"Of 30 ASADA testing missions during the period in question, none of the 18 players tested declared the injections, despite being asked each time whether they had taken any supplements.

"At best, the players did not ask the questions, or the people, they should have.

"At worst, they were complicit in a culture of secrecy and concealment."

At a media conference later, McDevitt said, "You simply cannot shift that personal responsibility to any support person, or any other person. Full stop.

"I feel for them quite strongly on a couple of fronts. But they obviously never paid due regard to the enormous possible ramifications and consequences of those decisions that they made when they signed on to a program involving injections of those substances."

The World Anti-Doping Authority (WADA), which appealed the AFL anti-doping tribunal's decision to clear the players of any wrongdoing in March 2015, also backed the suspensions handed down by the CAS.

In a statement, WADA director General David Howman said that the decision was a win for the anti-doping community and clean athletes around the world.

"If the AFL Tribunal’s decision had prevailed, it would have set a damaging precedent for future non analytical anti-doping cases; and, therefore, been detrimental for anti-doping efforts worldwide," he said.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-01-12/bombers-devastating-selfinflicted-injury-asada

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3767 on: January 13, 2016, 07:10:59 AM »
Maybe we should give them some priority picks as well next draft
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3768 on: January 13, 2016, 09:25:08 AM »
Why WADA Appealed to CAS

WADA Director General David Howman said the Essendon doping scandal represented a watershed moment for the anti-doping organisation about its pursuit of non-analytical cases.

The Court of Arbitration for Sport on Tuesday overturned the AFL Anti-Doping Tribunal’s not guilty verdict and handed 34 past and present Bombers players a backdated two-year ban over the supplements saga that has engulfed the club since 2012.

Howman, speaking to foxsports.com.au from Quebec, said they had no option but to appeal because otherwise the precedent would have forced WADA into changing how it handled similar cases.

“If the Court of Arbitration for Sport said the (original) decision was right then we would be in a very difficult position to prove any non-analytical case — any case that depended on evidence being gathered by investigation,” he said.

“It just would’ve been impossible and we felt that wasn’t the spirit of the (WADA) Code. It wasn’t the way we wanted the Code to be construed and it certainly wasn’t the way it had been construed in the past.

“If we hadn’t appealed we would have accepted the change that wasn’t mandated upon us by our stakeholders.”

AFL Players’ Association chief Paul Marsh expressed surprise at how two tribunals looking at the same evidence could arrive at such wildly opposing verdicts. But Howman said WADA had felt the AFL Anti-Doping Tribunal was incorrect in the way it looked at the standard of proof.

“We’ve had experience of many, many cases, including (disgraced sprinter) Tim Montgomery and the BALCO case where the standard of proof was different,” Howman said.

“It’s the standard of proof you’re looking at, not the evidence itself. It’s the way you construe the evidence and say how much is required to get to the situation where a breach of the rules has been made.

“Quite simply, and in a colloquial way, the Court of Arbitration for Sport said it was the ‘strand approach’ — in other words, you get each strand of evidence and line it up to see if it’s a strong enough rope. Rather than the ‘chain approach’, which was adopted by the other tribunal decision where if one chain is not there then whole thing falls over.

“And that’s quite a distinct difference in how you link evidence.”

Howman declined to comment on Essendon’s handling of the supplements saga, other than to say “there are a number of issues that might have been done better,” but revealed that he’d received some unflattering correspondence when asked if he had any sympathy for the players.

“I think the public have that expression (of sympathy),” Howman said. “I certainly have received some messages not of the complimentary style since the decision.

“I don’t think it’s for us to start looking at it from a sentiment view. We have to deal with cases on a daily basis involving athletes from all around the world. Some of whom make wrong decisions, some of whom are misguided, some of whom make major mistakes. And sometimes it’s all inadvertent.

“I think when you read the decision in this case you can form your own view about what the players felt and knew at the time under the program.”

Howman said the punishment meted out sent a very strong message to sporting organisations about the importance of vetting the people who look after the welfare of their athletes.

“Be very, very careful who you hired to administer any programs relating to the health of athletes,” he said. “It’s the entourage that has to be reviewed very specifically.

“It’s not just in AFL. If we look at examples in the cycling world you can see many examples of the entourage being responsible for determining programs that are wrong. You’ve got to be very careful in selecting those individuals.”

Sports scientist Stephen Dank, who was in charge of Essendon’s supplements program in 2011-12 and received a lifetime AFL ban, has said he plans to sue the AFL and ASADA to go along with the 24 legal actions he currently has pending against various media outlets.

Howman said WADA’s revised rules allow for offending entourage members to be punished. But in bad news for Bombers fans, he doesn’t think the CAS ruling represents the end of the matter.

“What we’ve been able to do in the last revision of our rules is to ensure the members of the entourage who might be responsible for leading to such decisions are also subject to the sanction process,” Howman said.

“I think the end of this matter has not yet been reached. I think the individual who introduced the program at the club is appealing some of the issues he was dealt with — and until that’s complete it’s not over.”

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-verdict-wada-chief-david-howman-explains-why-cas-appeal-was-necessary/news-story/3fc29afc3e4ffb661f909c389b432a08
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3769 on: January 13, 2016, 09:38:21 AM »
Same of the better days

 - asada / afl give the drug cheats the all clear
 - only for wada to appeal with an hour to go, after the drug cheats fanbois are already drunk on te bubbles

2. Watson admission on TV

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3770 on: January 13, 2016, 09:40:38 AM »
3. Weagles fans making jobe cry
4. Jobe cryin yesterday
5. Tim Watson talking crap about it's ok to give not aproved for human drugsto his flog son
6.  Jobe peeing off to England for a pint
7. The afl 34 page charge sheet
8. The ziggy report
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #3771 on: January 13, 2016, 09:50:43 AM »
JAMES HIRD (Feb. 5, 2013): I'm very disappointed, shocked, I think probably the best word. We believe that as the leader of the football department, as the coach takes full responsibility of what happens within our football department and I believe we've followed processes, we've put in place the right sort of processes. My understanding is that we worked within the framework that was given to us by the AFL and by WADA, and I'm shocked to be sitting here, really.


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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3772 on: January 13, 2016, 11:50:36 AM »
Stalin, IYO, did " the 34" knowingly take the substances?

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3773 on: January 13, 2016, 12:05:36 PM »
Stalin does not gaf

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3774 on: January 13, 2016, 12:12:20 PM »
Koch (sp) demanding port be compensated ...
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3775 on: January 13, 2016, 12:13:37 PM »
Radio national interviewing Richard Young aka never  lost a case

"Te afl tribunal misunderstood the rules in regard doping"....


Lol that's one way of saying it


"You are responsible for what's in your system - if you are unsure you need to Cheak"

"The rules are designed to protect clean athletes "

"If you asked the clean athletes most would say it was a good decision even if lenient "
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3776 on: January 13, 2016, 01:42:25 PM »
Stalin, IYO, did " the 34" knowingly take the substances?

Should they be given the benefit of the doubt on this? Players know to the cent if they have or haven't been paid properly. If they didn't know what they were putting in their bodies, why didn't they check?

Are the players the victims? No the other clubs and the integrity of the game is the victim.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3777 on: January 13, 2016, 03:47:59 PM »
Stalin, IYO, did " the 34" knowingly take the substances?

Should they be given the benefit of the doubt on this? Players know to the cent if they have or haven't been paid properly. If they didn't know what they were putting in their bodies, why didn't they check?

Are the players the victims? No the other clubs and the integrity of the game is the victim.

From what I read of the verdict I believe that is what was determined or at least heavily inferred, at the very least the players did not disclose they were being injected with something whilst being drug tested

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3778 on: January 13, 2016, 04:14:19 PM »
Koch (sp) demanding port be compensated ...
Koch said the Power had been “hoodwinked” by the Bombers when they traded Monfries at the end of the 2012 season — before the doping scandal broke in February 2013.

He said the club would look at its legal options and whether to pursue compensation from Essendon over the trade.

Port Adelaide gave up a third-round pick for Monfries, who was a restricted free agent at the time.

Koch said it was suggested that Monfries and Ryder take a deal that was offered to them, but that the former Essendon pair wanted to stick with their ex-teammates.

“We purely suggested (taking a deal) to their lawyers and the players and under pressure from their colleagues at Essendon, the players tuck with the playing group,” Koch said.

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Koch said the other clubs urged Essendon to plead guilty to ASADA and end the long-running saga but the Bombers chose to ignore their wishes.

“I don’t think I’d be speaking out of school to say that 17 other clubs wanted Essendon to do a deal and get on with it,” he said on Channel 7 last night.

“Put it behind them, accept their guilt for the good of the game and the good of all our reputations.

“Yes (they told Essendon this). Basically you had a club and a group of players who took a different view, and there was nothing the other clubs or the AFL could do about it.

“As we look at this issue in retrospect, I think that’s what we need to look at as an industry. If you have the want of — for want of a better description — a rogue club that goes against what the majority of the other clubs think is for the good of the game and the code, that there should be a mechanism that they come into line for the rest of the industry.”

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/port-adelaide/essendon-verdict-port-adelaide-president-david-koch-says-other-17-clubs-wanted-bombers-to-admit-guilt-and-do-a-deal/news-story/cf414da93b160b0523a9e2b71e928b90

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3779 on: January 13, 2016, 04:19:48 PM »
Jobe Watson has broken his silence and is still claiming they're all innocent and are looking at their legal options.


“The decision announced by the Court of Arbitration for Sport to uphold WADA’s appeal is devastating,” Jobe Watson said.

“We are struggling to come to terms with this decision, and feel it does not support the players’ firm belief that we are innocent.

“Our legal team is conducting a thorough review of the decision and will explore any avenues available to us.”


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/jobe-watson-says-essendon-players-are-devastated-by-ban/news-story/b570fc4864885773efcdaf6d998f3007