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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #90 on: April 04, 2013, 10:02:18 PM »
Blobbo reckons we're gonna put them to the sword  :clapping

Hope he is right  : played
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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #91 on: April 04, 2013, 11:57:11 PM »
Spotlight: Round 2:

Assistant Coach Mark Williams looks at the big clash against the Saints ...

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-04-04/spotlight-round-2

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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #92 on: April 05, 2013, 12:52:17 AM »
Saints need more speed to succeed

    Robert Walls
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    April 5, 2013


Richmond on the rise, St Kilda on the slide. That's what most folks thought over summer. Last week's round-one results probably confirmed that. And if the Tigers beat the Saints on Friday night, it will be definite confirmation.

Even though we are just into the second week of the season, this is a crunch game for both sides. It's a game Richmond should win. The Tigers are back on familiar turf at the MCG, after surviving last week's blockbuster against Carlton. They have had a couple of extra days to prepare, and they haven't had to travel to Queensland to play in the draining humidity as St Kilda did. So with plenty going for them, the Tigers shouldn't let their supporters down.

The Saints just can't afford to drop their first two games of the season, especially against sides that didn't play finals last year. If they do, they'll be playing catch-up football, which is what they did in 2012. They were stiff not to play finals in Scott Watters' first year as coach. Twelve wins and a very healthy percentage (123) would usually cement a top-eight spot, but not last year.

The Saints lost five games by 13 points or less, so they should not be dismissed lightly. Few would realise that the Saints' average score of 106 points per game was second only to Hawthorn. Watters gave his team more licence to attack than his predecessor, Ross Lyon, did. During Lyon's five-year tenure, the Saints' average score was 89 points per game, so Watters was able to conjure an extra three goals per game out of his players. But did that goal gain come at a cost?

In the two years that Lyon coached St Kilda to grand finals (2009 and 2010), it was the best defensive team in the competition, conceding on average just 68 points per game. Last year under Watters, the Saints conceded 86 points per game. In last week's loss to the Suns, the scary thing was that Gold Coast was able to kick seven goals in the final quarter to steal victory.

Watters is to be commended for implementing change. It had to happen. Good to see second-year players Ahmed Saad and Terry Milera thrown into a forward line far too reliant on two players - Nick Riewoldt and Stephen Milne.

Pleasing to see 22-year-old ruck prospect Tom Hickey chosen last week over fading veteran Justin Koschitzke. Playing Rhys Stanley and Arryn Siposs in defence is helping their development and promoting the team's flexibility. And increased opportunities have made David Armitage and Jack Steven improving midfielders. But two who need to return to their best positions are Sam Gilbert and Clint Jones. Having Gilbert run with Gary Ablett was a disaster in round one. The rangy Saint is very good at taking intercept marks across half-back and his run and carry can launch positive attacks. But he gets lost in heavy traffic, when quick decisions have to be made. Jones is a tight tagger who does his best work in the thick of heavy traffic. Playing a permanent role in the back half limits the Saints' run and creative options with Jones back there. It's to be hoped he gets the tough job on Trent Cotchin on Friday night.

Both of these teams could learn from each other. The Tigers were fierce and frantic against Carlton, but you can't sustain that for 100 minutes. They needed to slow the game down at times to deny Carlton the ball and keep their composure. They couldn't do it, and almost lost.

The Saints, on the other hand, have plenty of battle-hardened veterans who have played in plenty of tight games and generally controlled the tempo to win more than they have lost. But do they still have the fire in the belly and some young, quick legs to spark them?

I would love to know why Brendon Goddard left St Kilda. Was it money, or a belief that his team could no longer match it with the best? Perhaps it was both.

It was only one game, but against the young Suns could Riewoldt and Milne have chased harder in the forward line? Between them they had one tackle. Did Nick Dal Santo spend all that he had? Was Farren Ray's mind on the job, because there were fumbles aplenty. Has the game gone past Jason Blake? And can Ben McEvoy become a top-line ruckman as he enters his sixth season? There are not enough fresh legs, so again, it's up to the old boys to carry the can. This time next year, Riewoldt, Milne, Koschitzke, Blake, Dal Santo, Jones, Lenny Hayes, Sean Dempster, Leigh Montagna and Sam Fisher will be 30-plus, with Adam Schneider not far away.

I think Richmond will try to run the Saints off their legs early. I also think I know the main reason Goddard decided to bail out on St Kilda; he could see a window closing.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/saints-need-more-speed-to-succeed-20130404-2h9u4.html#ixzz2PVDLKjpb

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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #93 on: April 05, 2013, 01:09:45 AM »
Wallsy called it, now im pooting myself

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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #94 on: April 05, 2013, 10:17:39 AM »
i'd respect wallsy more if he changed his name to bobby balls

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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #95 on: April 05, 2013, 10:42:53 AM »
We'll be temporarily top of the ladder if we win this  :rollin

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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #96 on: April 05, 2013, 01:15:43 PM »
Got a feeling Dempster will miss tonight. 
Interestingly named on the bench which suggests they werent 100% going in. 
Hope Fisher plays as he will be underdone and I dont rate him anyway. 
Schneider underdone also. 

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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #97 on: April 05, 2013, 01:29:01 PM »
Based on the media expectations it is unexcusable if we don't win this game by 15+

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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #98 on: April 05, 2013, 01:51:57 PM »
The way the aints went to water in the last qtr against the Suns suggests that if we can be thereabouts come 3/4 time, I would expect a solid winning margin. Playing Name change guy at FF was ridiculous and Big Boy McEvoy well and truly ran out of steam by 3/4 time. The only thing I am worried about is the return of Montagna. He could lift them and he is fresh so we need to do a lockdown job on him.

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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #99 on: April 05, 2013, 05:22:23 PM »
Just had a look again at rounds 4, 5 and 6 and realised we really need to win the next two  :help

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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #100 on: April 05, 2013, 05:28:55 PM »
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And don't be surprised if Sam Fisher doesn't quite get up for tonight's clash at the MCG, with Tiger officials certainly surprised his foot problem and match conditioning was at a level ready to play.

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/afl/expert-opinion/panic-room-luke-hodge-will-play-for-hawthorn-on-sunday-in-comeback-from-injury/story-fndm7jib-1226613373974


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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #101 on: April 05, 2013, 05:35:53 PM »
All the money for Tigers against Saints
Paul Gough, Betting Editor
Last Updated 05/04/2013



It has taken just one narrow win over Carlton for the money to start flowing for the AFL's perennial heartbreak team Richmond, with the Tigers backed for a fortune to beat St Kilda at the MCG on Friday night to open Round 2.

Such is the confidence in Richmond at Betfair that Daniel Bevan is reporting that an incredible 96 percent of money wagered on the game so far has been on the Tigers - who have firmed from $1.61 into $1.39 - while the Saints, who traded as low as $2.20, are now out to $3.50.

It's the same story at the TAB where the Tigers are now even shorter.

"There has been massive hype around Richmond this week," the TAB's Adam Hamilton said.

"They have firmed from $1.50 to $1.36 and the punters have also backed them at the line at minus 18.5 points which has firmed from $1.90 into $1.85."

And at Centrebet, Michael Felgate says there has been heavy support for the Tigers to make the eight following that first-up win - in from $1.90 to just $1.65 despite the club being famous for having finished ninth on six occasions since the top eight was introduced in 1994.

Given St Kilda's record against Richmond, this will be a much tougher game for the Tigers - who so often struggle when favourites - than the odds indicate and the Saints look great value at the line with an 18.5 point start at odds of $1.92 at sportsbet.com.au and virtually even money of $1.99 at Betfair.

As for margin betting, the Tigers to win by 1-24 points holds far greater appeal at Centrebet at odds of $3.30 than taking the $2.15 on offer on Richmond winning by over 25 points considering you have to all the way back to 2003 at Docklands to find the last time the Tigers beat the Saints by more than four goals.

*Note prices subject to change

Full article at: http://www.sportal.com.au/betting-zone-news-display/all-the-money-for-tigers-against-saints-228981

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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #102 on: April 05, 2013, 06:23:54 PM »
Must win this game Tiges, this will show if we can handle the pressure yet again of going into a game as a favourite. Win and we have progressed further, lose and it's self doubt time for these games!
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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #103 on: April 05, 2013, 06:40:59 PM »
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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #104 on: April 05, 2013, 06:47:46 PM »
DIMMA - You will be held ACCOUNTABLE...

“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.

"Rucks:
Shaun Hampson is the No.1 man"