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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #150 on: April 06, 2013, 11:29:42 AM »
not sure what the tackle count was last night ramps. my comment about not being true was more about you saying that finalists should be about 80.

44 does seem a little low, but i know in the past, top sides have absolutely belted the opposition and had a tackle count in the low 50s.

its a funny stat. you dont want it too high, but you want it to be low for the right reasons and really needs to be taken in the context of the results over a period time
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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #151 on: April 06, 2013, 11:34:27 AM »
This time last year we were trying to find positives out of honourable losses ....I'll take a scrappy win any day of the week.
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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #152 on: April 06, 2013, 11:47:51 AM »
not sure what the tackle count was last night ramps. my comment about not being true was more about you saying that finalists should be about 80.

44 does seem a little low, but i know in the past, top sides have absolutely belted the opposition and had a tackle count in the low 50s.

its a funny stat. you dont want it too high, but you want it to be low for the right reasons and really needs to be taken in the context of the results over a period time

I agree with your logic to an extent, but theres no doubt our tackle count thus far in the first 2 rounds is considerably lower than it should be. Even Roos after last nights telecast said with a higher tackle count perhaps we'll find we dont let sides back into the game as easily/regularly as we seem to do and I'd agree with that summation.  I think we still need to find the balance of tackling vs guarding space  - should be aiming for 70+ tackles per game on average.

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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #153 on: April 06, 2013, 12:12:48 PM »

not sure what the tackle count was last night ramps.

41 for us, 55 for them according to the AFL site.

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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #154 on: April 06, 2013, 01:43:40 PM »
Which one of you nuffers rang up and trolled Finey? stuffing gold.  :lol

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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #155 on: April 06, 2013, 02:01:20 PM »
Which one of you nuffers rang up and trolled Finey? stuffing gold.  :lol

do tell  ;D

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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #156 on: April 06, 2013, 03:38:38 PM »
I for one am very concerned with our lack of tackling pressure.
It doesn't seem to be be a concern when playing teams around the same like in the last 2 weeks.
But if we think that an average 40 tackles is going to cut it against the top 4 clubs I think they're kidding themselves.
Last year we had 66 against the swans and 77 against the hawks in both those wins.
High tackles against both Geelong and the eagles and just lost.
Low tackle count against the magpies loss.

I personally think we aren't going to cut the mustard against the likes of these 4 clubs unless I see some more desperation and pressure tackling.
....that's my opinion anyway.
I guess we'll soon find out. 
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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #157 on: April 06, 2013, 06:15:34 PM »
can anyone remember the stkilda game last yr geez it was a far better standard than this yr. people think we have improved but go compare both games id say we have gone backwards yet we have won.
bruise free footy and atrocious skills  yep we are gunna come a cropper real soon. i have to ask does winning really mean improvement.

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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #158 on: April 06, 2013, 06:23:15 PM »
can anyone remember the stkilda game last yr geez it was a far better standard than this yr. people think we have improved but go compare both games id say we have gone backwards yet we have won.
bruise free footy and atrocious skills  yep we are gunna come a cropper real soon. i have to ask does winning really mean improvement.

Yeah last seasons game was a lot better standard but that's a premature call. We're nowhere near our best yet, plenty of scope for improvement that will come over the next few weeks. Lets see where we sit in 5 or 6 weeks then start making comparisons. From memory our first several weeks last season were average and then from about rnd 4(the wce game) to round 10 we really cranked it up before falling away once Foley got injured

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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #159 on: April 06, 2013, 08:17:28 PM »
Again our beloved punt rd end was used by the opposition club.  :banghead
The whole bottom deck resembling a tartan skirt with its blocks of black, red, white and spaces of grey seating.
On the city side however, a sea of yellow & black.  :gotigers

It's our ground! Who gives a flying stuff who's home game it is! 
I'm sure the facilities are just as good at the city end but its our bloody home ground!
We should get first dibs in whatever side of the ground we want the faithful brethren of the tiger army to congregate.

If you don't like it then go & play your bloody home games at docklandscolonialetihadtelstradome stadium! 
It's a bloody disgrace.  :banghead
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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #160 on: April 06, 2013, 08:36:52 PM »
Reckon the facilities are better in the Ponsford Stand to be honest

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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #161 on: April 06, 2013, 09:21:59 PM »
Reckon the facilities are better in the Ponsford Stand to be honest

Well the opposition clubs have nothing to complain about then.
Punt road is our end!
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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #162 on: April 06, 2013, 10:35:48 PM »
Reckon the facilities are better in the Ponsford Stand to be honest

Well the opposition clubs have nothing to complain about then.
Punt road is our end!

Not when we are the away team - those are rules for all teams at the MCG. Home team the Punt Road end if the want it. All clubs chose that end

Exception is games against the Pies as the Pies want the city end for their fans

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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #163 on: April 06, 2013, 11:38:15 PM »
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what about when it's melbourne's home game Tigra?
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Re: St Kilda vs Richmond Round 2 2013
« Reply #164 on: April 07, 2013, 12:36:37 AM »
I for one am very concerned with our lack of tackling pressure.
It doesn't seem to be be a concern when playing teams around the same like in the last 2 weeks.
But if we think that an average 40 tackles is going to cut it against the top 4 clubs I think they're kidding themselves.
Last year we had 66 against the swans and 77 against the hawks in both those wins.
High tackles against both Geelong and the eagles and just lost.
Low tackle count against the magpies loss.

I personally think we aren't going to cut the mustard against the likes of these 4 clubs unless I see some more desperation and pressure tackling.
....that's my opinion anyway.
I guess we'll soon find out.

Great post. Totally agree. We play our best when we are hard and physical. Hasn't happened yet.