Richmond vs Collingwood

[Francois Jackson]

Well said Ramps and very true

Sometimes u get the feeling that's what we are playing for 6-8 then once we get there work it out

North Melb good example. Look at their list. 6-10 no better. Same old same old. We don't want to turn out like that. Need to play the kids IMO.

Do we really think that Vlast couldn't do a better job than say  Grigg. Lets be honest he is very replaceable and i hope we do at some point in the coming months

[Rampstar]

last year I was being hammered in here when Grigg and Houli were putting in good performances and I was still critical. Both need to lift intensity. Truth is they are just good squad players in a successful team - not stars. On a good list they would be player 27 or 28 on a 30 man roster capable of doing something. In our team they seem to be picked in the top 10 players.

[TigerTimeII]

Collingwood played as a  team
we played as individuals
end of story

[Jackstar is back!!!]

Thought Dimma was out coached today and made some poor mistakes.

1. Chaplain onto Cloke earlier.
2. Cloke 1 on 1. Vickers doesn't do anything else why didn't he get back the in the 3rd quarter
3.  Petterd as the loose man. Don't  want to see this again.
Harry O was causing us so much damage until Jackson was moved onto him yet we had to deal with a stagnate Pettered.

On Grigg...

He is a dime a dozen footballer. What he brings to the table is nothing more than say anyone else could.

no right foot. It can be argued if he has a left one also.

No pressure acts. Not good overhead.

I hope Vlast can take his spot and send him back to Coburg.

I thought Ramps was spot on. Our list with the likes of Bacha, Grigg, Petterd will get us to bottom reaches of the 8 at best. We need more quality.

Honestly Petterd spare man back tells me they dont know what there doing .
Really Petterd, his disposal is ordinary, when he gets it he either kicks down the line or gives it straight back to the opposition
And why wouldnt you after they kicked 3 quick goals after half time, stop the bleeding and put large numbers back?
Nah, not at punt rd.
Pies forward line was wide open for quick ball movement thus they kicked 8 goals in 16 mins.
 

[Chuck17]

Pies forward line was wide open for quick ball movement thus they kicked 8 goals in 16 mins.
 

The difference in the game was 16 mins and that's all then, assumed we got rag dolled for 100 mins with all the dramatics.

Good to see your little          back again

[Jackstar is back!!!]

 
The Maric /Hudson battle ?

[eliminator]

We got caught ball watching, didn't attack the footy first and turned the ball over too much. Our tackles didn't stick either. Collingwood punished virtually every mistake we made. We were out coached. O'Brien destroyed us. Should have never been left unchecked. Need to win more contested footy and kick straight. Need also to learn to become better composed under pressure. On plus side we were not thrashed.

[Owl]

That's what I thought Eliminator, they got a bit shell shocked when the magpies nailed some easy goals and got caught ball watching.  Was a bit sad.  And allow O'Brien to constantly run the ball back from our fwd 50 made that prick look much better than he is.

[WA Tiger]

So does anyone know why Tuck was subbed???

[WilliamPowell]

we safely assume the boys understand the plan, or did the pies not let the boys
play to the plan WP?

one quarter was all it took from where I sat.

First quarter in particular roger they followed things to the letter. The reason IMV we weren't further ahead was poor execution of skills at crucial stages.

Unfortunately one thing that we are very good at is defensive turnovers in our fwd 50, that is our Fwds creating turnovers in our FWD50 but yesterday as the game went on we didnt get that as from where I sat only Kingy & jack offered it for the entire game. Edwards tried but he was basically tagged out of contests.

The third was the one, pies got on top in the clearances easily. This wasn't helped by our guys not setting up at centre bounces the way they were instructed.

We wanted stoppages because up until yesterday we were 2nd in the comp in stoppages and the Pies were 9th or something like that. In the third that was the one thing stood out to me like beacon, no mid filed pressure meant no chance of stoppages

On o'Brien - clearly the 2 main people given the task of stopping him showed him no respect, hence he carved us up.

I find the comments about Petterd amusing, he's played spare man in defence the previous 2 weeks and there's been no complaints but we lose and it's suddenly a stupid move 

[Owl]

On Tuck, dunno but he was absolutely blown, his face was bright red and he was sucking in air like he had just run a marathon.
I think we looked a little flat after the bulldogs, might of over done it lol.

[Smokey]

Collingwood played as a  team
we played as individuals
end of story

Yep

[Francois Jackson]

we safely assume the boys understand the plan, or did the pies not let the boys
play to the plan WP?

one quarter was all it took from where I sat.

First quarter in particular roger they followed things to the letter. The reason IMV we weren't further ahead was poor execution of skills at crucial stages.

Unfortunately one thing that we are very good at is defensive turnovers in our fwd 50, that is our Fwds creating turnovers in our FWD50 but yesterday as the game went on we didnt get that as from where I sat only Kingy & jack offered it for the entire game. Edwards tried but he was basically tagged out of contests.

The third was the one, pies got on top in the clearances easily. This wasn't helped by our guys not setting up at centre bounces the way they were instructed.

We wanted stoppages because up until yesterday we were 2nd in the comp in stoppages and the Pies were 9th or something like that. In the third that was the one thing stood out to me like beacon, no mid filed pressure meant no chance of stoppages

On o'Brien - clearly the 2 main people given the task of stopping him showed him no respect, hence he carved us up.

I find the comments about Petterd amusing, he's played spare man in defence the previous 2 weeks and there's been no complaints but we lose and it's suddenly a stupid move 

Re: Petterd.

What damage can be done against the Buldogs or Saints, lets be honest.

The fact it made it worse wasn't really Petterd's fault. Seeing his opposite number Harry o carve it up had me wondering why we had him play a loose man when he offers no run and carry.

I thought when we could've got 3/4 goals in front Harry O made the difference.
3/4 inside 50's, Cochin and Petterd none, IIRC but could be wrong.

Think he will be lucky to play next week. Batch is a far better option in the back half.

[WA Tiger]

On Tuck, dunno but he was absolutely blown, his face was bright red and he was sucking in air like he had just run a marathon.
I think we looked a little flat after the bulldogs, might of over done it lol.

Thanks Owl, just seemed like a strange decision...

[Ruanaidh]

We outscored them for 3 out of 4 quarters. We just need to understand (players and coaches) that against good sides pressure and commitment needs to be at the optimum level for the whole 100 minutes. Sides like Collingwood/Swans etc keep the screws on until they sense a breach and exploit it. It's called finals footy.