Will RFC make the 8 in 2013?

[Rampstar]

IMHO and it saddens me to say it but I believe this latest rebuild is on the verge of failure. I say this because a rebuild is supposed to be the basis for a club achieving the ultimate and in AFL Footy that is a premiership. In the game against geelong we only had 3 or 4 players who had played under 50 games of footy Geelong had 9 or 10. Collingwoods stocks of younger players also show more. Essendon for all the question marks have flown past us again. Port seems to have found plenty of young players who seem to find the balls to fight out of a problem. For all the redevelopment we have a bunch of panic merchants in our team, some who have been their for years, we have others who have specialised in turning over the football game in game out for years, our supposed stars never lift when the team is in trouble. We are on the verge of another failed rebuild and its sad for all of us because the only positive that our club has ever had over 30 years is the supporters and the members who year in year out do their bit by buying memberships and supporting the clubs fundraising plans but now we have to ask the key question- Can RFC make the 8 in 2013?

[WA Tiger]

 .......Wouldn't say we are on the verge of failure just yet. The Cats and Pies have many experienced GF players around the youth, so the youth appear to be better than ours because they have more support. Our youth such as Vlastuin, Conca, Martin and the like don't have that experience around them, they have to fight to show what they are made of.

The Cats and the Pies, the players, have been together a long time a lot longer than ours and we have turned over many more players than them in the past few years. If we are in the same boat next year I will be concerned but until then it's not all doom and gloom going forward. A couple of experienced KPP's could mean the world of difference.

[Owl]

lol the hysteria

[Rampstar]

lol the hysteria

My original post is very close to the mark of being true and if we lose against Port this season will be over for us.

[WA Tiger]

lol the hysteria

My original post is very close to the mark of being true and if we lose against Port this season will be over for us.

True....True...IYO, not in the clubs or mine...so how is it true?????

[Rampstar]

lol the hysteria

My original post is very close to the mark of being true and if we lose against Port this season will be over for us.

True....True...IYO, not in the clubs or mine...so how is it true?????

so you reckon  that even if we lose to Port next week which will be 4 losses in a row that we can make the finals? Not a slow flakes chance with our team and the lack of fight they show under adversity.

[Penelope]

 

[Rampstar]

Sorry Al but someone had to say it. I cant continue sitting by watching every other club develop youngsters who can respond under adversity and watch our club never being able to do the same. We are not a young club anymore, our players for the most part are senior experienced players. They just arent good enough. Thats all.

[Tigers of Old]

Melodramatic.
I think we're still in the process of rebuilding. Need some of our young talls to come on. They will with time.

[Phil Mrakov]

We won't lose to Poort

[dwaino]

[WilliamPowell]

Can't agree with you Ramps.

Yes I was angry on Saturday night with HOW we lost, it was pathetic to collapse the way we did (again)

Yes I am still frustrated about it because the usual suspects let us down

But when I look at where we've come from to where we are now we have improved. Yes we still have gaps in our list but less than we did before.

IMHO our bigest problem isn't the list gaps but our leadership. This has been a big bear of mine for ages and it was again the lack of leadership over the last 2 weeks that was the biggest let down for mine. We needed someone to stand up and drag us over the line against Freo and we had no one. They needed to stand up on Saturday and say "we maybe going down tonight but we'll be going down bloody well fighting". That's the biggest area of concern for me. Kids take time, we've been patient for the last 3 years with our kids coming through and we should continue to be IMV. But leadership wise, we need to fix it and fix it fast 

You say:

IMHO and it saddens me to say it but I believe this latest rebuild is on the verge of failure.

and then add:

My original post is very close to the mark of being true and if we lose against Port this season will be over for us.

These are your opinions and you are entitled to voice them. But you appear to be saying that only your view is right and those of us disagree are wrong. I think you make fair points but I don't agree with the "verge of failure" part, I think that is being melodramatic to 3 losses that most people if they were truely honest about were expecting before the season started.

Can we make finals if lose this week? Yep we can but we make it bloody hard. Next 3 weeks will tell us alot about our leaders, our team and our Club.

[Francois Jackson]

Ramps is a good poster who sees it as it is and makes a call on it. Hard not to agree with him, although i agree with WP, young kids need time to develop. I cant understand the angst toward griffiths, i mean if Macca can play his role in the F50 so can Griffiths. Give him a game FFS, its not as if our forward line is working wonders at the minute.

WP good clubs find a way to win without their leaders having a impact. Watson GWS, Swan vrs Saints. etc etc

Leaders stepping up had nothing to do with Hackson getting gifted games and watching Grigg get selected week after week after producing that rubbish he did on saturday night. Does anyone in their right mind think he is anything but a good depth player? I ask this question because id like to know if anyone does and if so what does he provide.
Lids not running hard enough at the contest. Same mistakes against freo in the last minute.
This is basic stuff that our players are not smart enough to comprehend. Against weak opposition like the dees in a few weeks for sure but not against quality.

Comibination of poor coaching, bad management and lack of leadership.

[JVT]

When we win the next 3 everyone will be singing the praises. Everyone is down at the moment, but a week is a long time in football. Let's see how they go against Port. 

[Rampstar]

If we win against Port then yes we will be on track again. I just have big fears about what happens if we lose to Port and how the players will respond to 4 straight losses.