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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #300 on: September 01, 2014, 11:21:26 PM »
All of a sudden the figure being bandied is 500k a year for Frawley. (Over 5 years)
Is that still paying overs? I wouldn't think so.
Take a punt Tigers.
Agree. $500K is worth it. $800K was ridiculous and I didn't want him for that.  He is worth $350K to me but you have to pay overs to get free agents so $500k is reasonable.
Would still prefer Tomlinson though........
If he is worth 350k, what is your man Griff worth?

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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #301 on: September 01, 2014, 11:26:39 PM »
All of a sudden the figure being bandied is 500k a year for Frawley. (Over 5 years)
Is that still paying overs? I wouldn't think so.
Take a punt Tigers.
Agree. $500K is worth it. $800K was ridiculous and I didn't want him for that.  He is worth $350K to me but you have to pay overs to get free agents so $500k is reasonable.
Would still prefer Tomlinson though........
If he is worth 350k, what is your man Griff worth?

Frawley's value has plummeted for me on the back of two very ordinary seasons. Where do you think he will finish in the dee's best and fairest BT?
As for Griff, you will be paying for a guy with far more potential who has more footy left in him. He is also mobile 200cm who is very skillful below his knees and can take a great pack mark. He can roost it further than anyone else in the league. Those characteristics make him unique and he just needs to get his hands on the pill more. I thus would pay him $275k for 3 years.
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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #302 on: September 01, 2014, 11:49:00 PM »
All of a sudden the figure being bandied is 500k a year for Frawley. (Over 5 years)
Is that still paying overs? I wouldn't think so.
Take a punt Tigers.
Agree. $500K is worth it. $800K was ridiculous and I didn't want him for that.  He is worth $350K to me but you have to pay overs to get free agents so $500k is reasonable.
Would still prefer Tomlinson though........
If he is worth 350k, what is your man Griff worth?

Frawley's value has plummeted for me on the back of two very ordinary seasons. Where do you think he will finish in the dee's best and fairest BT?
As for Griff, you will be paying for a guy with far more potential who has more footy left in him. He is also mobile 200cm who is very skillful below his knees and can take a great pack mark. He can roost it further than anyone else in the league. Those characteristics make him unique and he just needs to get his hands on the pill more. I thus would pay him $275k for 3 years.
Melbourne are a basket case. If you think you can judge anyone properly that has played there in the last 3 years than you are making a big mistake. And to ask me where he will finish in the B&F is just plain wrong.  It has nothing to do with anything?
Your man has potential on his side but really it's only just that. He could be on the scrap heap before the middle of next year if he doesn't keep improving because what he is serving up is potential at the moment, not really results. 
He has played 34 odd games out of a possible 110 odd in 5 seasons, and the reason for that mostly is form. Dusty was drafted in the same year and played 106.
I'd think 2 years at best is what he will be offered at 200k a year.

Anyway IMO we should have a real crack at get Chip Frawley.  :pray

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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #303 on: September 02, 2014, 12:36:29 AM »
And a lot of injuries too...

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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #304 on: September 02, 2014, 08:05:15 AM »
All of a sudden the figure being bandied is 500k a year for Frawley. (Over 5 years)
Is that still paying overs? I wouldn't think so.
Take a punt Tigers.
Agree. $500K is worth it. $800K was ridiculous and I didn't want him for that.  He is worth $350K to me but you have to pay overs to get free agents so $500k is reasonable.
Would still prefer Tomlinson though........

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I would take him at $500k but not go within a bulls roar at $800k.

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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #305 on: September 02, 2014, 08:18:09 AM »
Wouldn't even get a game at RFC, we got Darrou and astbury knocking on the door, get in the queue  :shh
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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #306 on: September 02, 2014, 08:25:26 AM »
All of a sudden the figure being bandied is 500k a year for Frawley. (Over 5 years)
Is that still paying overs? I wouldn't think so.
Take a punt Tigers.
Agree. $500K is worth it. $800K was ridiculous and I didn't want him for that.  He is worth $350K to me but you have to pay overs to get free agents so $500k is reasonable.
Would still prefer Tomlinson though........
If he is worth 350k, what is your man Griff worth?

Frawley's value has plummeted for me on the back of two very ordinary seasons. Where do you think he will finish in the dee's best and fairest BT?
As for Griff, you will be paying for a guy with far more potential who has more footy left in him. He is also mobile 200cm who is very skillful below his knees and can take a great pack mark. He can roost it further than anyone else in the league. Those characteristics make him unique and he just needs to get his hands on the pill more. I thus would pay him $275k for 3 years.
Melbourne are a basket case. If you think you can judge anyone properly that has played there in the last 3 years than you are making a big mistake. And to ask me where he will finish in the B&F is just plain wrong.  It has nothing to do with anything?
Your man has potential on his side but really it's only just that. He could be on the scrap heap before the middle of next year if he doesn't keep improving because what he is serving up is potential at the moment, not really results. 
He has played 34 odd games out of a possible 110 odd in 5 seasons, and the reason for that mostly is form. Dusty was drafted in the same year and played 106.
I'd think 2 years at best is what he will be offered at 200k a year.

Anyway IMO we should have a real crack at get Chip Frawley.  :pray
Firstly, the b&f is a great way to judge a player relative to his peers. Frawley hasn't got a lot to beat at Melbourne so I think it is reasonable to see how his own coaching staff rate him.
You can't compare the development of a 200cm KPP who missed most of his first two years with injury with a top 3 draft choice mid who has had no significant injury. That is plainly wrong and unfair. 
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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #307 on: September 02, 2014, 09:36:52 AM »
All of a sudden the figure being bandied is 500k a year for Frawley. (Over 5 years)
Is that still paying overs? I wouldn't think so.
Take a punt Tigers.
Agree. $500K is worth it. $800K was ridiculous and I didn't want him for that.  He is worth $350K to me but you have to pay overs to get free agents so $500k is reasonable.
Would still prefer Tomlinson though........
If he is worth 350k, what is your man Griff worth?

Frawley's value has plummeted for me on the back of two very ordinary seasons. Where do you think he will finish in the dee's best and fairest BT?
As for Griff, you will be paying for a guy with far more potential who has more footy left in him. He is also mobile 200cm who is very skillful below his knees and can take a great pack mark. He can roost it further than anyone else in the league. Those characteristics make him unique and he just needs to get his hands on the pill more. I thus would pay him $275k for 3 years.
Melbourne are a basket case. If you think you can judge anyone properly that has played there in the last 3 years than you are making a big mistake. And to ask me where he will finish in the B&F is just plain wrong.  It has nothing to do with anything?
Your man has potential on his side but really it's only just that. He could be on the scrap heap before the middle of next year if he doesn't keep improving because what he is serving up is potential at the moment, not really results. 
He has played 34 odd games out of a possible 110 odd in 5 seasons, and the reason for that mostly is form. Dusty was drafted in the same year and played 106.
I'd think 2 years at best is what he will be offered at 200k a year.

Anyway IMO we should have a real crack at get Chip Frawley.  :pray
Firstly, the b&f is a great way to judge a player relative to his peers. Frawley hasn't got a lot to beat at Melbourne so I think it is reasonable to see how his own coaching staff rate him.
You can't compare the development of a 200cm KPP who missed most of his first two years with injury with a top 3 draft choice mid who has had no significant injury. That is plainly wrong and unfair.
I know it's not like for like but the facts are there for all to see. All I'm saying is what he is serving up should be what a pick 19 of 5 years ago should be doing.
I really hope he does become a star of the game because we need him to. Big game for him this week, he needs yo be involved in the game for 4 quarters.
Can I ask, are you related to big Griff in any way?

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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #308 on: September 02, 2014, 10:05:35 AM »
All of a sudden the figure being bandied is 500k a year for Frawley. (Over 5 years)
Is that still paying overs? I wouldn't think so.
Take a punt Tigers.
Agree. $500K is worth it. $800K was ridiculous and I didn't want him for that.  He is worth $350K to me but you have to pay overs to get free agents so $500k is reasonable.
Would still prefer Tomlinson though........
If he is worth 350k, what is your man Griff worth?

Frawley's value has plummeted for me on the back of two very ordinary seasons. Where do you think he will finish in the dee's best and fairest BT?
As for Griff, you will be paying for a guy with far more potential who has more footy left in him. He is also mobile 200cm who is very skillful below his knees and can take a great pack mark. He can roost it further than anyone else in the league. Those characteristics make him unique and he just needs to get his hands on the pill more. I thus would pay him $275k for 3 years.
Melbourne are a basket case. If you think you can judge anyone properly that has played there in the last 3 years than you are making a big mistake. And to ask me where he will finish in the B&F is just plain wrong.  It has nothing to do with anything?
Your man has potential on his side but really it's only just that. He could be on the scrap heap before the middle of next year if he doesn't keep improving because what he is serving up is potential at the moment, not really results. 
He has played 34 odd games out of a possible 110 odd in 5 seasons, and the reason for that mostly is form. Dusty was drafted in the same year and played 106.
I'd think 2 years at best is what he will be offered at 200k a year.

Anyway IMO we should have a real crack at get Chip Frawley.  :pray
Firstly, the b&f is a great way to judge a player relative to his peers. Frawley hasn't got a lot to beat at Melbourne so I think it is reasonable to see how his own coaching staff rate him.
You can't compare the development of a 200cm KPP who missed most of his first two years with injury with a top 3 draft choice mid who has had no significant injury. That is plainly wrong and unfair.
I know it's not like for like but the facts are there for all to see. All I'm saying is what he is serving up should be what a pick 19 of 5 years ago should be doing.
I really hope he does become a star of the game because we need him to. Big game for him this week, he needs yo be involved in the game for 4 quarters.
Can I ask, are you related to big Griff in any way?
You can and I'm not. ;D
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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #309 on: September 02, 2014, 11:05:57 AM »
maybe your his dad and you are being channeled to support the boy you've never known doc  ;D

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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #310 on: September 02, 2014, 11:13:56 AM »
maybe your his dad and you are being channeled to support the boy you've never known doc  ;D
Now let me see what was I doing 23 years ago...... ;D
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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #311 on: September 02, 2014, 11:17:36 AM »
at 500k we should be seriously looking at Frawley. 7-800k was ridiculous - but 500k is at market rate for a 26y/o KPD

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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #312 on: September 02, 2014, 11:22:34 AM »
Do we really need him?

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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #313 on: September 02, 2014, 11:23:26 AM »
Do we really need him?

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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #314 on: September 02, 2014, 11:29:24 AM »
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