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Cotch confident on star duo
« on: July 09, 2013, 04:08:44 PM »
Cotch confident on star duo
By Nathan Schmook
3:01pm AEST Tuesday, July 9, 2013

RICHMOND captain Trent Cotchin is "very confident" star teammates Jack Riewoldt and Dustin Martin will re-sign with the club, and says all terms put to the duo would be fair and reasonable.

The Tigers have been successful in signing up a number of key young players in recent weeks, but Riewoldt and Martin remain out of contract beyond this season, with money reported to be a sticking point.

Cotchin, who committed to the club for a further two years in May, said players needed to be prepared to make financial sacrifices to be part of successful teams.

He said "everything going forward is fair and reasonable", and he couldn't see any reason why the duo wouldn't want to stay with the Tigers.

"It's a great place to be, we've got a young group that have been together now for quite some time and we're building towards something," Cotchin said on Tuesday.

"Every player in the AFL would love to be paid as much as they possibly can, but the reality is there's a cap there for that reason. If you want to be part of successful clubs, then sometimes there's a little bit of sacrifice that needs to be made.

"We're all about spending time together, building something and enjoying the whole ride together."

Cotchin plays his 100th game this Saturday against Gold Coast in Cairns, and the midfielder said he was hoping for an improved performance from the Tigers as they look to beat the Suns for the first time.

The 23-year-old said the players had learned lessons from their 62-point loss to North Melbourne last Saturday, adding this week's review had been forensic.   

"When you have a disappointing result go your way the week prior, you always want to come out and prove that you're still playing good footy," he said. 

"We've let ourselves down the last couple of years (in Cairns), but we're a different team the way we've been playing in the last few weeks. Aside from last week, we've really come a long way.   

"The conditions up in Cairns are a little bit different to down in Melbourne and we're prepared for that … we've had two years of it now, we know what to expect."

On his own form, Cotchin said he'd "love to get a lot more of the ball and kick a few more goals", with his output in both areas down on 2012, when he finished equal runner-up in the Brownlow Medal.

The All Australian denied he was carrying a knee injury from earlier in the season, and said he was spending less time forward of centre. 
 
"That (goal kicking) is probably down in comparison to last year and I'm not giving myself as much opportunity," he said. 

"I think it's just a matter of some of our younger guys really stepping up to the plate.

"Brandon Ellis, Reece Conca, even (Nick) Vlastuin has come in and played a really pivotal role for our footy club.

"That's what we ask of our younger guys, to start to take up the slack that's been there for the past couple of seasons."

Nathan Schmook is a reporter for AFL Media. Follow him on Twitter @AFL_Nathan

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Re: Cotch confident on star duo
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2013, 05:52:04 PM »
Cotchin calls on star duo to commit

    Jon Pierik
    The Age
    July 9, 2013 - 5:18PM



Richmond captain Trent Cotchin hopes out-of-contract pair Dustin Martin and Jack Riewoldt re-sign and enjoy the club’s ‘‘ride’’, reminding the pair that to be part of a successful club can require financial sacrifice.

According to industry sources, Riewoldt is on $550,000 this season, and hopes to lift this to $750,000 a season in a new deal. Martin is estimated to be on $450,000 this season, and is keen to push this to $650,000. The pair has been at odds with the club over money.

Cotchin, who re-signed for two years in May, was confident the two emerging champions would commit to the club.

Midfielder Dustin Martin is still in talks with the club. Photo: Sebastian Costanzo

‘‘It’s a great place to be. We’ve got a young group that have been together now for quite some time and we’re building towards something,’’ Cotchin said on Tuesday.

‘‘Every player in the AFL would love to be paid as much as they possibly can, but the reality is there’s a cap there for that reason. If you want to be part of successful clubs, then sometimes there’s a little bit of sacrifice that needs to be made.

‘‘We’re all about spending time together, building something and enjoying the whole ride together.’’

Riewoldt’s manager Liam Pickering has said he is confident the colourful full-forward will remain a Tiger. Carlton is one side after a key forward, and would be able to accommodate Riewoldt’s financial requests.

Martin’s manager, Ralph Carr, has declined to comment.

Tigers football boss Dan Richardson reminded the senior players in a meeting before the round-10 game against West Coast that successful teams were required to make sacrifices to help keep the group together. Geelong has been a fine example of this through its premiership era.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/cotchin-calls-on-star-duo-to-commit-20130709-2po4l.html#ixzz2YX58z22H

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Re: Cotch confident on star duo
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2013, 01:31:30 AM »
Riewoldt wants $750k and Martin $650k? No thanks. $550-600k max for Jack IMO and $500-550 for Martin. You can't expect that kind of money within the limitations of the cap.

And I haven't seen enough improvement from Jack to merit a $200k pay rise, nor Martin for the same pay rise.

If they won't budge then IMO we should offer Martin to GWS to try to get pick 1 for Tom Boyd. We need a power forward, jack isn't strong enough and GWS wants running midfielders.



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Re: Cotch confident on star duo
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2013, 02:00:06 AM »
delist mcgaune and jackson/someone else problem solved

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Re: Cotch confident on star duo
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2013, 10:18:16 AM »
How does Carlton always find a way to pay for every premium player that comes up?

If it's about money then those two can stick it. I'm used to losing so not like it will make any difference.

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Re: Cotch confident on star duo
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2013, 10:45:35 AM »
How does Carlton always find a way to pay for every premium player that comes up?

If it's about money then those two can stick it. I'm used to losing so not like it will make any difference.

hahahaaha how true add to that Hawks, pies also. selfish pricks thats all it is. Lids 5 year deal shows the character of the man IMO

This is all about money nothing else.

Martin to GWS for Boyd

Greedy pricks.

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Re: Cotch confident on star duo
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2013, 11:12:50 AM »
and yet moron wants to trade him to carlton

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Re: Cotch confident on star duo
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2013, 11:16:59 AM »
How does Carlton always find a way to pay for every premium player that comes up?

If it's about money then those two can stick it. I'm used to losing so not like it will make any difference.

hahahaaha how true add to that Hawks, pies also. selfish pricks thats all it is. Lids 5 year deal shows the character of the man IMO

This is all about money nothing else.

Martin to GWS for Boyd

Greedy pricks.

 :cheers

Lids didn't even spin any bull about a short contract to stay on his toes.

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Re: Cotch confident on star duo
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2013, 12:03:02 PM »
hahahaaha how true add to that Hawks, pies also. selfish pricks thats all it is. Lids 5 year deal shows the character of the man IMO

This is all about money nothing else.

Martin to GWS for Boyd

Greedy pricks.

So they're greedy and it's all about money because Pierek speculates about figures using the the good old "industry sources" line.

Should never believe what you read in the papers when it comes to the value of contracts 

Dustin Martin isn't going anywhere, neither is Jack Riewoldt so I don't understand all the angst   ;) ;D

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Re: Cotch confident on star duo
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2013, 12:30:56 PM »
hahahaaha how true add to that Hawks, pies also. selfish pricks thats all it is. Lids 5 year deal shows the character of the man IMO

This is all about money nothing else.

Martin to GWS for Boyd

Greedy pricks.

So they're greedy and it's all about money because Pierek speculates about figures using the the good old "industry sources" line.

Should never believe what you read in the papers when it comes to the value of contracts 

Dustin Martin isn't going anywhere, neither is Jack Riewoldt so I don't understand all the angst   ;) ;D


WP im sure you have quoted articles before so this is no different

Jack wouldn't be asking for 500k. If you believe that you also believe in the Illumanati. Dusty ditto

Tom Boyd would be a ripper. If dusty keeps pushing id send him over there
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Re: Cotch confident on star duo
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2013, 12:36:53 PM »
if martin kicks four this week and gets 30 touches u will be toasting yourself  :shh
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Re: Cotch confident on star duo
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2013, 12:39:22 PM »
Star duo? More like star trio! Cotch has forgotten about Choco! We need to sign him damn it!!!!

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Re: Cotch confident on star duo
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2013, 12:48:57 PM »
WP im sure you have quoted articles before so this is no different

Jack wouldn't be asking for 500k. If you believe that you also believe in the Illumanati. Dusty ditto

Tom Boyd would be a ripper. If dusty keeps pushing id send him over there

This isn't about quoting articles this is about believing what the journo has said as being 100% accuarate.

When it comes the media speculating on the value of a player's contract I always have reservations

Personally I have my doubts on the current numbers and the new numbers, that have been reported that's all.

We don't know how much they've asked for either does Pierek despite what he has written and that's my point.

You said "Jack wouldn't be asking for $500k" but how do we know he is asking for $750k? Ditto Dusty. Put simply we don't so I am not going to go around calling blokes greedy based on an article written by a journo that is speculating on numbers.

And why the singling out of Dusty? If the numbers Pierek is quoting are even remotely accurate then Dusty wants less than Jack so why don't we ship him off if he keeps "pushing"

My view is they will both re-sign

Star duo? More like star trio! Cotch has forgotten about Choco! We need to sign him damn it!!!!

What are you talking about  :huh Choco is signed for 2014 but has (as most assistant coaches do) an out clause if they get a senior gig
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Re: Cotch confident on star duo
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2013, 01:06:16 PM »
we must retain martin, but seriously why not trade jack to gws for pick one

we must be brave , regardless what jack wants i think we should trade him for pick one and chuck in foley for a second round pick

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Re: Cotch confident on star duo
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2013, 01:10:22 PM »
we must retain martin, but seriously why not trade jack to gws for pick one

we must be brave , regardless what jack wants i think we should trade him for pick one and chuck in foley for a second round pick
They won't want Jack with Cameron (a very similar player to Jack) already there and the very real possibility of Buddy coming to town.