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Re: Best 22 - 2014
« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2013, 10:14:35 AM »
morris - chaplin - grimes

mcintosh - rance - helbig

deledio - adams - ellis

martin - riewoldt - knights

mcdonough - mcbean - longer

maric - vlastuin - cotchin

pick 25 quick skillful mid,  arnot, conca, foley.

geez no grigg, houli, white, king,mcguane, edwards, petterd, newman who is past it,  jackson vickery . thats a lot of regulars we need to upgrade on.
lots of work to be done at tiger land.

Few VERY wishfull entries there. The entire forward line have played 1 game between them up to this point. I think that's a 2016/18 lineup to be honest. Not that I dislike the look of it

there's players in there that aren't even on our list FFS
expect that crap from a 12yr old big footy poster

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Re: Best 22 - 2014
« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2013, 11:07:46 AM »
Certainties - players which deliver a good standard most of the time and our team would be absolutely rubbish without

Cotchin
Martin
Deledio
Riewoldt
Rance
Houli
Maric
Vlastuin
Chaplin

More or less guaranteed a spot because we can't replace them

Newman
Jackson
Grigg
Conca
King
Foley
White
Grimes
Shedwards

Players which are on the fringe of becoming a permanent fixture in our starting 22
Knights
Petterd


Who I would like to force their way into the side and make players accountable for their performances
Arnot
McBean

Morris would be a certainity

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Re: Best 22 - 2014
« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2013, 11:27:47 AM »
Certainties - players which deliver a good standard most of the time and our team would be absolutely rubbish without

Cotchin
Martin
Deledio
Riewoldt
Rance
Houli
Maric
Vlastuin
Chaplin

More or less guaranteed a spot because we can't replace them

Newman
Jackson
Grigg
Conca
King
Foley
White
Grimes
Shedwards

Players which are on the fringe of becoming a permanent fixture in our starting 22
Knights
Petterd


Who I would like to force their way into the side and make players accountable for their performances
Arnot
McBean

Morris would be a certainity

And in hindsight you would think our 2013 Jack Dyer Medallist might have a case to be considered a certainty!   ;D

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Re: Best 22 - 2014
« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2013, 11:28:07 AM »
FB - Grimes     Rance      Chaplin

HB - Morris       Houli       Vlastuin

C - Deledio      Martin        Ellis

HF - Knights     Reiwoldt     King

FF - Hampson   Vickery     S. Edwards

Foll - Maric   Cotchin  Conca

Int - Foley, Jackson, Newman  Sub - Arnot

Love to see McBean break into the team around midyear barring injures and either our McDonough or McIntosh too if they earn it. Like Flossy, our Pick 12 will need to really prove themselves at VFL level to earn a call up as our depth gets stronger.


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Re: Best 22 - 2014
« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2013, 04:14:28 PM »
My team is similar to Stripes with a couple of changes

FB - Griffith       Rance        Houli

HB - Morris       Chaplin      Grimes

C - Deledio      Jackson        Ellis

HF - Knights     Reiwoldt     Martin

FF - Hampson   Vickery     S. Edwards

Foll - Maric   Cotchin  Conca

Int - Foley, Vlastuin, Grigg  Sub - Arnot

The holes are still there at Back Pocket, CHF, HFF and possibly Ruck.

The Back Pocket is interesting since I see it as an ultra-tall third back in reality minding the resting ruck (Hale, Vardy, Pike, Witt, Kreuzer, Ryder etc).
In that case we should be looking at someone of Griffith's size to compete, while he also has agility and a booming kick.
Grimes is not tall enough and I prefer him as the tall HBF who can play on smalls effectively. This releases Vlastuin to play in the on-ball rotations. 
If Griffith is not capable there is an obvious alternative that everyone is overlooking and that is McBean.
While everyone is salivating over him as the only young tall we have who can regularly kick goals, he was drafted from juniors as a KPD/ruck.
He actually played a very good game against WA as CHB as noted by Jackson when we drafted him

At CHF we have no obvious choices since Jack is a dual Coleman winning FF and should play there IMO.
The only real reason to play Jack at CHF and Vickery at FF is really only a lack of alternatives and presumes that Maric and Hampson will both play ruck.
If Maric is as badly injured as I suspect then Hampson will be first ruck and Vickery will play the same Forward/ruck as usual.
This means that probably Elton or Griffith must play CHF and this is still a BIG stretch.

Jackson as the reigning Dyer medallist should be given due credit and played in the guts with Martin as the change off HFF.   
If Knights comes back and plays as well as we expect then this removes King who IMO is past it as a starting small forward anyway.
Grigg will be in the on-ball rotations unless Hardwick has a major change of heart and this forces out Newman who I can't see as a member of the midfield rotations off the bench.

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Re: Best 22 - 2014
« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2013, 04:40:57 PM »
Certainties - players which deliver a good standard most of the time and our team would be absolutely rubbish without

Cotchin
Martin
Deledio
Riewoldt
Rance
Houli
Maric
Vlastuin
Chaplin

More or less guaranteed a spot because we can't replace them

Newman
Jackson
Grigg
Conca
King
Foley
White
Grimes
Shedwards

Players which are on the fringe of becoming a permanent fixture in our starting 22
Knights
Petterd


Who I would like to force their way into the side and make players accountable for their performances
Arnot
McBean

Morris would be a certainity

And in hindsight you would think our 2013 Jack Dyer Medallist might have a case to be considered a certainty!   ;D

Not necessarily.

The case could still be made his is in the bottom 6 on gameday.

Deledio - Cotchin - Martin - Vlastuin - Ellis - Conca - Reiwoldt - Maric - Rance - Vickery - Grimes - Chaplin - houli - #11
 = 14

Arnot? Knights? Edwardsx2? - Foley? - Grigg? Pettard?

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Re: Best 22 - 2014
« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2013, 04:46:33 PM »
his what is in the bottom six on gameday?
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

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Re: Best 22 - 2014
« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2013, 04:50:44 PM »
My Round One team based on everyone to choose from and what they have said regarding Hampson starting 22. Newman will start in our best 22 as his still heart and soul of the club in the coaches eyes and wont get pushed out of the team that early. This may change later in season. I am hoping Mcbean comes in for a couple of games but he most likely won't be best 22 all season, just to develop and grow as a player and 2015 is his year to be best 22 with the likes of Edwards gone.

FB - Grimes     Rance        Morris

HB - Vlastuin   Chaplin     Houli

C - Jackson      Martin        Ellis

HF - Knights     Reiwoldt     Deledio

FF - Hampson   Vickery     S. Edwards

Foll - Maric   Cotchin  Conca

Int - Foley, King, Newman, Grigg

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Re: Best 22 - 2014
« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2013, 04:52:00 PM »
his what is in the bottom six on gameday?

IMO Jackson is not the first name on the sheet

Do a ranking of our best/most important players. What number you have Jackson?

Forgot cannot ball morris, too

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Re: Best 22 - 2014
« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2013, 04:54:09 PM »
Hmmmm.....
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

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Re: Best 22 - 2014
« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2013, 12:11:20 AM »
Yeah got a pretty strong feeling that the B&F winner might just get a gig in the 22
« Last Edit: October 12, 2013, 03:09:03 AM by one-eyed »

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Re: Best 22 - 2014
« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2013, 12:16:42 AM »
Yeah got a pretty strong feeling that the B&F winner might just get a gig in the 22

;D

He can feel it. That's good enough for me.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2013, 03:09:41 AM by one-eyed »

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Re: Best 22 - 2014
« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2013, 10:26:44 PM »
morris - chaplin - grimes

mcintosh - rance - helbig

deledio - adams - ellis

martin - riewoldt - knights

mcdonough - mcbean - longer

maric - vlastuin - cotchin

pick 25 quick skillful mid,  arnot, conca, foley.

geez no grigg, houli, white, king,mcguane, edwards, petterd, newman who is past it,  jackson vickery . thats a lot of regulars we need to upgrade on.
lots of work to be done at tiger land.

Few VERY wishfull entries there. The entire forward line have played 1 game between them up to this point. I think that's a 2016/18 lineup to be honest. Not that I dislike the look of it

there's players in there that aren't even on our list FFS
expect that crap from a 12yr old big footy poster
you after a nibble bud. you better do better than that.

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Re: Best 22 - 2014
« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2013, 10:27:25 PM »
Try one with hampson instead of longer

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Re: Best 22 - 2014
« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2013, 10:34:02 PM »
Try one with hampson instead of longer
na im trying to keep the duds out of my best 22.