Tiges v Kangas - Another Bad Start

[mightytiges]

We had all the momentum with the Roos not looking like kicking a goal. So what do we do we turn it over twice through dumb decision making and gift them goals and now our heads have dropped and the Roos are running all over us.

DUMB STUPID TURNOVERS kill us; not the opposition      .

Wallace must be pulling his hair out that experienced players short pass and handball short to contests  .

7.11 - 13.6

It's over Rex. 31 points. We are the dumbest team in the league. Most of our guys have no footy smarts whatsoever.

Another turnover via a handball then another. This is a joke!

[Moi]

Richo goal 

[Ox]

Wallace must be pulling his hair out that experienced players short pass and handball short to contests  .

7.11 - 13.6

It's over Rex. 31 points. We are the dumbest team in the league. Most of our guys have no footy smarts whatsoever.

Another turnover via a handball then another. This is a joke!

Where did they learn to play like this ?

[mightytiges]

Spud is partly to blame but they've had Wallace now for 9 months and you've got to be responsible for your own performance. Many of our guys Ox are thick as when it comes to understanding how footy is played or just don't have the skills.

Knobel and Tivs have cost us 4 goals alone in the last 30 minutes 

Terry is blasting the @#$% out of each player individually at 3/4 time asking "What is your job?".

[Moi]

Kangas must think we're the softest of all and just relish the thought of playing us.
And who could argue 

[mightytiges]

Wallace interviewed on 3aw:

We went back to very very old habits.

Inside 50 62 times (most ever this year), 30 scoring shots. Forwards unable to get the job done. Complete disappointment as despite diabolical 30 scoring shots normally wins you games.

Turnovers destroy confidence and build up the opposition's confidence as it gives away shot goals when you have all the momentum.

Undisciplined. Guys doing their own thing and we lost our match-ups in the 3rd quarter. Boys on the ground not doing the job they were told to do.

Asked about Tivs. Wallace said senior guys either learn to get better or make way. That's the reality. Said Tivs did ok on Wells but mistakes arode confidence of the rest of the side. Not the only there he haded.

[mightytiges]

3aw rankings:

Gas - Hudghton of the Saints has taken over as AA. (not sure how they claim that after one poor game  )   
Deledio 4
Raines 5
Simmonds 4
Chaffey 5
Cambo 5
Stafford 2
Bowden 4
Richo 6
Knobel 5
Pettifer 4
Johnson 8
Hall 4
Tuck 7
Meyer 3
Jackson 3
Cogs 6
Krakouer 6
Tivs 5
Graham - stop gap. Last year.
Newman 4
Kellaway 4

[JohnF]

We are the worst skilled team in the competition. Easily!

[one-eyed]

Errors cost Tigers in defeat
4:42:51 PM Sun 12 June, 2005
Paul Gough
Exclusive to afl.com.au

Richmond is in danger of blowing yet another promising start to a season after the Kangaroos maintained their dominance over the Tigers at Telstra Dome on Sunday.

The Roos, themselves under pressure to stay in the eight following five losses in their past six matches, downed the Tigers for the 21st time in 27 meetings going back to 1990 and for the fourth successive season at Telstra Dome.

 
Trailing by seven points early in the third term, the Roos were magnificent from that point on going to win 17.7 (109) to 10.20 (80) with Nathan Thompson starring with five goals.

The win lifts the Roos equal with the Tigers on seven wins but it is Richmond that is now struggling to keep its place in the eight particularly with last year's grand finalists Port Adelaide and Brisbane now breathing down their back just outside the top eight.

The Tigers have now lost their past three matches since round nine, echoing their previous fade-outs - which all began one round earlier - in the past three seasons particularly 2003 when they won six of their first eight games only to lose 13 of the last 14.

And on this form the Tigers will struggle to stay in the top eight for much longer.

While there is no doubt the season-ending leg injury suffered by Nathan Brown in round ten has halted the momentum built up under new coach Terry Wallace - when they won seven of the first nine games - it was not the absence of their star goalkicker that cost the Tigers on Sunday.

Rather it was their skill level and poor decision making as they had more than enough chances to take control of the game in the first two-and-a-half quarters against a Kangaroos side that was also lacking confidence.

The Tigers had 18 entries inside their forward 50 to just nine by the Kangaroos in the first term, yet trailed by seven points after kicking a wasteful 2.6 with spearhead Matthew Richardson missing two gettable set shots on the way to 2.5 for the day.

Yet at the ten-minute mark of the third term the Tigers were seven points in front and had the momentum when they self-destructed.

First ruckman Trent Knobel fired off a dreadful handball into open space resulting in a turnover and a goal to Leigh Brown and then Greg Tivendale caused another turnover with an errant handball leading to a goal to Thompson and suddenly the Roos were back in front, a lead they would not surrender again.

Tivendale, a long-time target for Richmond fans because of his poor decision-making, had a disappointing match.

And his effort to play on when lining up for goal from 60 metres only to run straight into three Kangaroos defenders in the second quarter must stand out as one of the most comical moments of the season.

Once the Roos were handed back the momentum through Richmond's errors in the third term they made the Tigers pay dearly as they slammed on six more goals to go into the last change with a five-goal lead.

While the Tigers constantly failed to hit targets when they went forward, the Roos used the ball superbly inside their attacking 50 with Thompson right back to his best while star goalsneak Daniel Motlop will also be better for the run in his first game back following a shoulder re-construction.

Key playmaker Brent Harvey also returned to form with 30 possessions while Glenn Archer and Leigh Colbert were inspirational in defence.

The Tigers' midfielders, led by Kane Johnson and Mark Coughlan, tried hard while Joel was effective in defence but the Tigers made just far too many mistakes and capped off a disappointing day with some dreadful kicking for goal, including 2.8 in the final term.

KANGAROOS: 4.1, 7.7, 14.6, 17.7 (109)
RICHMOND: 2.6, 5.10, 8.11, 10.20 (80)

GOALS – Kangaroos: Thompson 5, Harding 3, Harris 2, Grant 2, Wells, Archer, Brown, Jones, LeCras Richmond: Richardson 2, Krakouer 2, Newman 2, Pettifer, Tivendale, Tuck, Meyer

BEST – Kangaroos: Harvey, Harris, Grant, Brown, Archer, Harding, Colbert, Thompson Richmond: Johnson, Coughlan, Tuck, Bowden, Chaffey, Deledio

INJURIES – Kangaroos: Richmond:

CHANGES – Richmond: Hilton replaced in the selected side by Meyer

REPORTS - Nil

UMPIRES - Grun, Nicholls, Goldspink

CROWD - 40,444 at Telstra Dome

http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=208903

[Bulluss]

We wasted our time picking up Knobel, his skills other than his hitouts are terrible.

The turnovers that he made today were a joke.

[PuntRdRoar]

Knobel has never been a star lol. You get what you pay for in this world...thats about it really! We went to the PSD with peanuts instead of paying money and getting a star...it was a wasted opportunity!

[Tigertailz]

I couldnt beleive how bad Knobel was.

Saints were happy to see him leave.

Now I know why.

He can leave us as well.

[mightytiges]

Terry is blasting the @#$% out of each player individually at 3/4 time asking "What is your job?".

Just listened to Terry's after-match interview on the RFC site.

Apparently 6 of our blokes when asked at 3/4 time who they were meant to be on weren't where and on who they were suppose to be. Wallace mentioned specificially we had 2 guys who were meant to be in the midfield ended up in a back pocket and 2 guys who were meant to be in defence ended up in the centre square  ???. 6 guys not following basic instructions to do a job. That's 1/3 of the side!  .

Wallace also said the turnovers turned the game but the poor simple set-shot goalkicking was the game.

[one-eyed]

Wallace laments skill errors
7:25:09 PM Sun 12 June, 2005
Paul Gough
Exclusive to richmondfc.com.au

Richmond coach Terry Wallace blamed skill errors for the Tigers' disappointing loss to the Kangaroos on Sunday saying they 'eroded the confidence of the group'.

The Tigers, coming off two losses in a row, looked in control of the game in the third quarter when they booted the first two goals of the second half to lead by seven points at the ten-minute mark.

But two crucial handball turnovers - one from ruckman Trent Knobel and one from Greg Tivendale - resulted in goals to the Kangaroos and once they regained the lead they never looked back in winning 17.7 (109) to 10.20 (80).

The Tigers actually ended the game with 31 more disposals than the Roos as well as six more scoring shots yet were beaten despite getting the ball inside its forward 50 on 62 occasions.

But Wallace said it was their inability to use the ball properly which decided the outcome.

"First-up our skill errors eroded the confidence of our group and that just kills you in games of footy," Wallace said.

"You have the momentum and you are working the ball your way and then you turn it over and instead of scoring, you have (opposition) blokes out (on their own) in the other direction and they score instead."

Wallace also admitted a few of his players got lost during the latter half of the third term when the Roos slammed on seven goals in a 14-minute period to take control of the game.

"I was disappointed in a few of our match-ups because blokes were set specific tasks and they stepped away from them.

"They knew they were meant to be on certain blokes but (in the third term) they weren't on those blokes."

Tivendale in particular endured a dirty day and at one stage chose to play on after marking within kicking distance of goal, only to run straight into three Kangaroos defenders.

Wallace admitted he spoke to Tivendale about his decision-making after the game and said it had to improve but would not respond to questions about whether it was time for the 137-game veteran to be dropped.

The Tigers have now lost their past three games and are battling to retain their place in the top eight in what is already starting to look a similar fade-out to each of the past three seasons when they have won a total of just four out of 42 matches after round eight.

However Wallace says he does not believe the Tigers will again suffer the same fate in 2005.

"I don't believe in history, I have no interest in history at all," Wallace said.

"We still had the ball inside our forward 50 on 62 occasions and had 30 scoring shots and that is enough to win most games of footy and if we got that many scoring shots and inside 50's for the rest of our games this year I would be happy."

http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=208934

[one-eyed]

Wallace slams Tigers' lack of discipline
13 June 2005   
Herald Sun
Michael Horan

COACH Terry Wallace says a lack of discipline and accountability turned a hard-earned Richmond lead into a heavy defeat in the space of 10 minutes.

The Tigers' fall from grace continued with a third straight loss yesterday – by 29 points to the Kangaroos at Telstra Dome – leaving Richmond facing the fact it hasn't beaten a side in the top eight this season.

The Tigers saw an early third-term surge, when they kicked three goals to go seven points clear, evaporate in the heat of a Roos onslaught that produce six unanswered goals to all but put the game beyond reach.

"It fell apart for a few reasons. We'd set blokes up with certain tasks and they just stepped away from the responsibilities we'd set them," Wallace said. "I just asked them the question, who they were meant to be on. They know and understood who they were meant to be on, but they weren't on those blokes."

From the sidelines it appeared the Tiger coach had unleashed a tirade on his men at the three-quarter time huddle, but Wallace said he had simply sought answers.

"I just asked the question. I just said, `OK, who are you meant to be on and who did you finish on? Who are you meant to be on, who did you finish on?'.

"I just went through that fact and said, `You wonder why they kick six goals in 10 minutes when we've got six blokes who put their hand up and said they were meant to be on a certain opponent and they ended up on another opponent'.

"We ended up with two of our backmen in the centre square, two of our midfielders in the back pocket. When you get that sort of disruption, the flow of the game is lost because of the turnovers.

"The disruption was there because blokes just purely and simply didn't follow instructions. We won games early in the year because we were very, very disciplined in our instruction and in our roles and I thought part of the reason why this game was lost because we weren't as disciplined in following our instructions."

Dreadful kicking and a rash of turnovers proved fatal to Richmond, which has slumped to a 7-5 win-loss record and is again a target for teams just outside the eight.

Whether the Tigers have gone forward considerably since last year or will melt back into another year of disappointment – they haven't won a game in the month of June since 2001 – remains to be seen.

"We'll find that out, I suppose," Wallace said.

"We never made any bold or rash comments about where we are as a footy club.

"We knew one of the dangers coming into this game was the Kangaroos had virtually a complete squad to pick from. When you have a look at ours, we have four or five guys out of our line-up at the moment.

"That cuts you a little bit deeper and we knew this was always going to be a pretty dangerous game.

"But we still had the ball inside 50m 62 times and still had 30 scoring shots.

"Within all our own parameters that we work for, 30 scoring shots is enough to win most games of footy.

"We had easy set-shots, 35-40m out, that we kept turning into points. Skill errors killed us."

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,15592866%255E19771,00.html