Author Topic: Hardwick signs contract extension until 2016 [updated]  (Read 5501 times)

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Re: Hardwick to get a two-year extension: Jon Ralph
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2013, 01:03:44 PM »

Yet you don't want them to raise the cost of membership  :whistle

Good to see you have the ability to twist things to serve you purpose. Though having said I am not sure your what your "whistle" comment above is all about TBBH

But here you go, yet again I'll try and make things very clear for you

Firstly, you are accused me of not being a member. I am a member and have been for over 30 years. I have mutliple memberships. I pay a fair whack of $$$ to be a member of the RFC. It is my choice the types of memberships I have but don't ever say I am not a member because that is simply not true

Most people on here would know that when I talk about memberships and the cost of them I don't make comments based on how it effects me. I raise concerns about how it will effect others. I hate seeing people having to give up being members or their seats because it's become cost prohibited because the Club has whacked them with a huge increase (like they did in 2013 with reserved seats in the Southern Stand on level 2). I have received a few whacks along the way but I don't care it is just my take on things

I have been very very clear in my view that the Club needs to be very careful when it comes to raising the cost of memberships. I have no problem with membeship price increasing every year. Small increases are fine but massive increase simply wont work. You will lose members. Just like the idea of forcing people to but a reserve seat as part of the membership when our home ground is the MCG wont work.

Some people on here have advocated that the club put the cost of membership up by a further $15 this year on top of what they've already increased them by for 2014 to fund the cost of bringing PRO to VFL standard so we can play games there. Others have suggeast charging a one off levy to fund it.

I make absolutely no aplogies in saying that I dead-set against these ideas, people should not be forced to pay for something they may not or cannot afford. People should be given that choice just like they should be given the choice on whether to contribute to the FTF...

Is that clear enough  ::)
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Re: Hardwick to get a two-year extension: Jon Ralph
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2013, 01:24:53 PM »

Yet you don't want them to raise the cost of membership  :whistle

Good to see you have the ability to twist things to serve you purpose. Though having said I am not sure your what your "whistle" comment above is all about TBBH

But here you go, yet again I'll try and make things very clear for you

Firstly, you are accused me of not being a member. I am a member and have been for over 30 years. I have mutliple memberships. I pay a fair whack of $$$ to be a member of the RFC. It is my choice the types of memberships I have but don't ever say I am not a member because that is simply not true

Most people on here would know that when I talk about memberships and the cost of them I don't make comments based on how it effects me. I raise concerns about how it will effect others. I hate seeing people having to give up being members or their seats because it's become cost prohibited because the Club has whacked them with a huge increase (like they did in 2013 with reserved seats in the Southern Stand on level 2). I have received a few whacks along the way but I don't care it is just my take on things

I have been very very clear in my view that the Club needs to be very careful when it comes to raising the cost of memberships. I have no problem with membeship price increasing every year. Small increases are fine but massive increase simply wont work. You will lose members. Just like the idea of forcing people to but a reserve seat as part of the membership when our home ground is the MCG wont work.

Some people on here have advocated that the club put the cost of membership up by a further $15 this year on top of what they've already increased them by for 2014 to fund the cost of bringing PRO to VFL standard so we can play games there. Others have suggeast charging a one off levy to fund it.

I make absolutely no aplogies in saying that I dead-set against these ideas, people should not be forced to pay for something they may not or cannot afford. People should be given that choice just like they should be given the choice on whether to contribute to the FTF...

Is that clear enough  ::)

So when will we raise the membership to Collingwood price ? We want the same profits that they get when we are pushing 80k like them
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Re: Hardwick to get a two-year extension: Jon Ralph
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2013, 01:41:44 PM »
So when will we raise the membership to Collingwood price ? We want the same profits that they get when we are pushing 80k like them

How the hell would I know?

And what's with this "we" business, it seems you are the one that is fascinated with what other clubs are doing and wanting to be like them

But here's a suggestion, you want the RFC to make more money? Why don't you either buy extra memberships or upgrade to higher level of membership, donate to the FTF and help that way rather than wanting price increases slugged on everyone else
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Re: Hardwick to get a two-year extension: Jon Ralph
« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2013, 01:45:19 PM »
So when will we raise the membership to Collingwood price ? We want the same profits that they get when we are pushing 80k like them

How the hell would I know?

And what's with this "we" business, it seems you are the one that is fascinated with what other clubs are doing and wanting to be like them

But here's a suggestion, you want the RFC to make more money? Why don't you either buy extra memberships or upgrade to higher level of membership, donate to the FTF and help that way rather than wanting price increases slugged on everyone else

What makes you think I don't do that already ? I'm a true supporter, I give now and still want them to increase membership costs. I like to observe what other clubs are doing so that we can do the same and make our own club better. Unlike some people  ::)
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Re: Hardwick to get a two-year extension: Jon Ralph
« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2013, 02:08:08 PM »
A shame he has NFI what to do during a match
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Re: Hardwick to get a two-year extension: Jon Ralph
« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2013, 02:17:56 PM »
A shame he has NFI what to do during a match
Makes his other work to get us where we are at even more impressive!
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Re: Hardwick to get a two-year extension: Jon Ralph
« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2013, 02:23:06 PM »
What makes you think I don't do that already ? I'm a true supporter, I give now and still want them to increase membership costs. I like to observe what other clubs are doing so that we can do the same and make our own club better. Unlike some people  ::)

1/ I have no idea what level of membership you have but you're the one who accused me of not being a member which was blantantly untrues. So I would suggest if you are going to take pot shots from the cheap seats then be prepared to take it back in kind  ;D

2/ I think I am true member and supporter, I have never ever downgraded my memberships because the price has gone up. As I said I pay big $$$ for my membership. So I don't think my committment to this club can be questioned. Just because I question some of the things they do isn't a sign of disloyalty it is about holding them to account to the membership

3/ I too look at what other clubs do but I don't get obessive about it. More importantly I don't think that just because one club makes bigger profits than us that their methods of making is the right way to do it. I want the RFC to be the RFC; not a clone of some other club, that in some cases treats its grassroots members with a type of disdain by pricing things out of their reach.

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Re: Hardwick to get a two-year extension: Jon Ralph
« Reply #37 on: November 28, 2013, 02:41:26 PM »
A shame he has NFI what to do during a match
Makes his other work to get us where we are at even more impressive!

Yes the hiring of thefatman was a mastermind move
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Re: Hardwick to get a two-year extension: Jon Ralph
« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2013, 03:31:58 PM »
A shame he has NFI what to do during a match
Makes his other work to get us where we are at even more impressive!

Yes the hiring of check was a mastermind move

You mean Choco? Do you post from your phone? Think you need a better app.

anyway.... at least Hardwick adjusted our attacking gameplan this year, but he really needs to do the same with our defensive gameplan - it hasn't changed in 4 years and is too often found wanting when the opposition gains the upper-hand. Like to see a bit more outside the box thinking too. Far too rigid and conventional. Really he's one real tactical coup was the West Coast match this year, when we conceded the hit-outs to Cox & Natanui and shut down the mids feeding off them instead....which was hardly revolutionary.

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Re: Hardwick to get a two-year extension: Jon Ralph
« Reply #39 on: November 28, 2013, 03:36:12 PM »
#3 best defense behind freo/Sydney outside Chaplin everyone should improve given the age brackets

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Re: Hardwick to get a two-year extension: Jon Ralph
« Reply #40 on: November 28, 2013, 04:11:01 PM »
The backline will hold up as long as Chaplin does. It's our defence around the ground, particularly between the arcs that concerns me. Classic example was the North loss - we actually out tackled them and had a fairly high tackle count but most of the tackles occured during long periods of the ball being locked up in the 50's. When they broke away on the counter, won the clearances & centre bounces and were able to run though the middle we had no answer. Carlton did the same - three times if you count the last quarter in round one.  Geelong, Collingwood. Sydney was the one loss where our backline was a contributer to the defeat - though that was as much to do with poor match-ups and the small ground as much as anything.  Could be argued the Rance on Cloke debacle v Collingwood was the other time, but lack of defensive pressure in the midfield is what gave Cloke all those opportunities in the first place.

It's the 8 losses Hardwick & the team need to learn from moreso than the 15 wins.
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Re: Hardwick to get a two-year extension: Jon Ralph
« Reply #41 on: November 28, 2013, 06:29:55 PM »

its the guys on the grass with the yellow and black that win or loss

not the blokes drinking beer and shouting on the other side of the fence


hear, hear - and if you truly support them both sides of the fence can be winners :gotigers

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Re: Hardwick to get a two-year extension: Jon Ralph
« Reply #42 on: November 28, 2013, 09:11:08 PM »
X2

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Re: Hardwick to get a two-year extension: Jon Ralph
« Reply #43 on: November 29, 2013, 08:21:40 AM »
The backline will hold up as long as Chaplin does. It's our defence around the ground, particularly between the arcs that concerns me. Classic example was the North loss - we actually out tackled them and had a fairly high tackle count but most of the tackles occured during long periods of the ball being locked up in the 50's. When they broke away on the counter, won the clearances & centre bounces and were able to run though the middle we had no answer. Carlton did the same - three times if you count the last quarter in round one.  Geelong, Collingwood. Sydney was the one loss where our backline was a contributer to the defeat - though that was as much to do with poor match-ups and the small ground as much as anything.  Could be argued the Rance on Cloke debacle v Collingwood was the other time, but lack of defensive pressure in the midfield is what gave Cloke all those opportunities in the first place.

It's the 8 losses Hardwick & the team need to learn from moreso than the 15 wins.

great post

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Hardwick to sign contract extension until 2016
« Reply #44 on: December 11, 2013, 05:55:21 PM »
Dimma about to sign a contract extension until 2016.

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