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Indigenous Players
« on: January 28, 2014, 09:55:46 AM »
I would really like the RFC to recruit more Indigenous players, I really don't think we have focused much on this particular part of our business since JON left. We have had Tambling and we have Edwards but I would like to see a more robust development plan or a recruitment plan implemented that specifically focuses on the recruitment of Indigenous players.

Maybe we have this process in place now, if we do I don't really see it as being effective. I know we select the payers we do based on the needs of the team and the business of winning a flag, but surely this must include or at least should include Indigenous recruitment.

I would like to see at least two Indigenous players in the team and another two on the Rookie list or at least training with the club through a development plan..

The Swans, Hawks, Pies, Blues, WC, Dockers and the Roos seem to be all over this. Even GWS seem to have a few Indigenous players.

Any thoughts or feedback on our current or future plans in this area??

 
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Re: Indigenous Players
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2014, 10:37:21 AM »
I would really like the RFC to recruit more Indigenous players, I really don't think we have focused much on this particular part of our business since JON left. We have had Tambling and we have Edwards but I would like to see a more robust development plan or a recruitment plan implemented that specifically focuses on the recruitment of Indigenous players.

Maybe we have this process in place now, if we do I don't really see it as being effective. I know we select the payers we do based on the needs of the team and the business of winning a flag, but surely this must include or at least should include Indigenous recruitment.

I would like to see at least two Indigenous players in the team and another two on the Rookie list or at least training with the club through a development plan..

The Swans, Hawks, Pies, Blues, WC, Dockers and the Roos seem to be all over this. Even GWS seem to have a few Indigenous players.

Any thoughts or feedback on our current or future plans in this area??

why?

why should the recruiting team focus more on recruiting indigenous players?


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Re: Indigenous Players
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2014, 10:58:24 AM »
They should've taken Gartlett but we didn't. Hawthorn took him and have a heap of Indigenous players in recent times after having a policy of no Aboriginee recruits.

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Re: Indigenous Players
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2014, 11:07:54 AM »
I would really like the RFC to recruit more Indigenous players, I really don't think we have focused much on this particular part of our business since JON left. We have had Tambling and we have Edwards but I would like to see a more robust development plan or a recruitment plan implemented that specifically focuses on the recruitment of Indigenous players.

Maybe we have this process in place now, if we do I don't really see it as being effective. I know we select the payers we do based on the needs of the team and the business of winning a flag, but surely this must include or at least should include Indigenous recruitment.

I would like to see at least two Indigenous players in the team and another two on the Rookie list or at least training with the club through a development plan..

The Swans, Hawks, Pies, Blues, WC, Dockers and the Roos seem to be all over this. Even GWS seem to have a few Indigenous players.

Any thoughts or feedback on our current or future plans in this area??

why?

why should the recruiting team focus more on recruiting indigenous players?

Really??

Every business should be focusing on this. The incredible talent they have, the celebration of the Indigenous round and the Dreamtime at the G game, where we can only represent the Indigenous community with one player..goes without saying really.

I agree with PM too.
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Re: Indigenous Players
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2014, 12:03:24 PM »
WAT if the best available player in the draft at our selection was indigenous, I highly doubt we would pass on them. Or are you saying that we need to focus our scouting resources more on competitions with a higher percentage of Indigenous players (eg NT)? I think the Club has been very clear for some time that they are sticking to a strategy of recruiting players with specific skill sets that will compliment the team as a whole. If we are in the hunt for players with elite foot skills for example (which is the current mantra), I think the club would look at all potential candidates whether they are indigenous or not. If Garlett was a player without a heap of baggage, I am certain we would have gone harder for him.

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Re: Indigenous Players
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2014, 12:24:39 PM »
WAT if the best available player in the draft at our selection was indigenous, I highly doubt we would pass on them. Or are you saying that we need to focus our scouting resources more on competitions with a higher percentage of Indigenous players (eg NT)? I think the Club has been very clear for some time that they are sticking to a strategy of recruiting players with specific skill sets that will compliment the team as a whole. If we are in the hunt for players with elite foot skills for example (which is the current mantra), I think the club would look at all potential candidates whether they are indigenous or not. If Garlett was a player without a heap of baggage, I am certain we would have gone harder for him.

That and in local WA, I know we have a recruitment plan I just think it should focus more on the Indigenous players than perhaps it does. Kevin Sheedy left a legacy behind him and I don't think we are supporting that legacy through recruitment, we are with the Dreamtime at the G game....but with one Indigenous player in our team??
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Re: Indigenous Players
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2014, 01:45:51 PM »
drafting players based on skin color helps us to a premiership, how?

it not that hard o find out that around 3% of the population aboriginal.
since hardwick took over we have drafted 3 indigenous players.

so thats 3 in about what, 40-50 picks? which is about 6%, double the rate of the general population.

so by drafting to a certain criteria, of which skin color is not one, indigenous players have been statistically over represented, but now we should forgo some of the criteria that actually matter and start drafting on skin color instead?
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Re: Indigenous Players
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2014, 02:19:50 PM »
I asked the same question to our recruiting department and they informed me that there has been less quality Indigenous players available in the last few drafts because the NT and Northern Queensland have been zoned to the new teams.

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Re: Indigenous Players
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2014, 02:22:39 PM »
Rfc should be like south African cricket. At least 10% black by law  :banghead :banghead

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Re: Indigenous Players
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2014, 04:24:42 PM »
Would like to see more indigenous players playing for the club. Agree playing for the club should be based on merit not on skin colour but more effort should be putting into recruiting indigenous players.  Clubs such as Hawthorn, Carlton and the Swans have benefitted greatly from putting in a real effort with regards to the recruitment of indigenous players. We have had some fantastic indigenous players in the past and there is no reason why if we put the necessary resources into it we can't have future indigenous champions.

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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2014, 04:38:43 PM »
Would like to see more indigenous players playing for the club. Agree playing for the club should be based on merit not on skin colour but more effort should be putting into recruiting indigenous players.  Clubs such as Hawthorn, Carlton and the Swans have benefitted greatly from putting in a real effort with regards to the recruitment of indigenous players. We have had some fantastic indigenous players in the past and there is no reason why if we put the necessary resources into it we can't have future indigenous champions.

Spot on with the intent of my thread, good to see the more mentally mature people understand.

al....your post is so far off the mark its actually embarrassing mate. :-\
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Re: Indigenous Players
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2014, 04:39:48 PM »
I asked the same question to our recruiting department and they informed me that there has been less quality Indigenous players available in the last few drafts because the NT and Northern Queensland have been zoned to the new teams.

That's a shame isn't it really, but an interesting reason as to why.
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“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.

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Re: Indigenous Players
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2014, 04:43:45 PM »
Our only priority should be good players. Meritocracies > Socialist quota systems.

Either way, Garlett would've satisfied both criteria.
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Re: Indigenous Players
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2014, 04:53:36 PM »
Meritocracies > Socialist quota systems.

That's exactly what I was gonna say  ;D
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Re: Indigenous Players
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2014, 05:01:10 PM »
Would like to see more indigenous players playing for the club. Agree playing for the club should be based on merit not on skin colour but more effort should be putting into recruiting indigenous players.  Clubs such as Hawthorn, Carlton and the Swans have benefitted greatly from putting in a real effort with regards to the recruitment of indigenous players. We have had some fantastic indigenous players in the past and there is no reason why if we put the necessary resources into it we can't have future indigenous champions.

Spot on with the intent of my thread, good to see the more mentally mature people understand.

al....your post is so far off the mark its actually embarrassing mate. :-\
really.
are you not saying you want more indigenous players at the club?
if so how do you propose that is done without compromising our current selection criteria?
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