Richmond - contenders or pretenders? (Robbo, Mike, Whateley & Ralph from H-Sun)

[one-eyed]

Mark Robinson, Mike Sheahan, Gerard Whateley and Jon Ralph debate where Richmond are contenders or pretenders:

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Ralph - contenders. Only side to beat Hawthorn and by 41 pts without any Kennett curse. Going to be growing pains but two points off top 4 means plenty of upside and they can maintain the rage. Jack Riewoldt is capable of kicking 80 goals. Believe 3-4 sides are above us though.

Robbo - contenders for 4th-7th; pretenders for the premiership. Rates that we last year had the 3rd least score against. Impressive for a young team.

Whateley - If they hold ground in 5th and win a final that will be progression. Massive leap for them last year to reach 5th. Unrealistic to expect top 4. Sides that finish 5th should be able to win at least one final.

Sheahan - believes a team's fortunes depends on its best players not bottom 6. If Cotchin and Martin reach the level they can reach then thinks Richmond will be genuine contenders. We [the media] offer too much slack to Richmond. Hardwick is in his 5th year. They need to win 15 games [the others reminded him we won 15 games already last year]. Mike then says that then is the launch pad and Richmond must win a final.

[dwaino]

I agree with Robbo, except if we take advantage of our draw we could make a push for an even higher finish. I remember when they were talking about this at half time of our first NAB game and Sheahan was finding every excuse to be critical, yet when they did the same for Carlton the old todger looked for the smalllest reasons to talk them up.

[Owl]

Blobbo could barely contain his hatred for us the flaccid useless sack of excrement, was funny watching him getting all p! ssed off that someone thought we could win it lol.

[Dice]

Blobbo could barely contain his hatred for us the flaccid useless sack of excrement, was funny watching him getting all p! ssed off that someone thought we could win it lol.

How the hell is this mumbling , bumbling fool the chief writer of anything ?
Surprised he hasn't introduced crayons for his staff to use.

[Chuck17]

Blobbo could barely contain his hatred for us the flaccid useless sack of excrement, was funny watching him getting all p! ssed off that someone thought we could win it lol.

How the hell is this mumbling , bumbling fool the chief writer of anything ?
Surprised he hasn't introduced crayons for his staff to use.

He was going to but ending up eating them

[gerkin greg]

Sheahan - We [the media] offer to much slack to Richmond.

[the claw]

i think a blind mans seeing eye dog could see theres plenty of sides in contention for 5th thru 8th. obviously we are one of those sides.  we are no chance for a flag and have a lot of building to do still to get there.
the positive is after the decades in the wilderness and the low base hardwick has come from  we continue to track in the right direction.
i still think it very concievable that we will miss finals all together but so could 10 other sides in contention for bottom half of the 8. thing is we could miss and concievably still track in the right direction.

can i ask everyone. what if we have a yr like nm did after making finals the yr before. we could be super competetive in 95% of games but miss finals thru whatever reason.  we could improve across the board like nm did would that be acceptable. i think it would. the evenness of the comp can mean a rollercoaster from yr to yr as far as results go.
it wont be until we are a genuine lay down misere top 4 side that we may be able to get off that roller coaster.

lets look to improve in all things, and if we do and fail so be it. i actually think both nm and essendon were better in yrs they missed finals than the yrs they made it.

come rnd 1 against gcs if we dont play at our best we may well walk away with our tail between our legs thats how even the comps become.
in some ways i think with the way we have gone about the list the last two yrs finals shoul;d be expected but that would be churlish when all other things are considered. we are in a real dog fight make no mistake about it.

[Diocletian]

Sheahan - We [the media] offer to much slack to Richmond.

I'm sure it was a slip of the tongue and he meant to say Essendon...

[Diocletian]

Seriously, Gerard stuffing Wimpley, the Stephen Fry of sporting journalists - the stupid person's idea of what a smart person is.

[YellowandBlackBlood]

i think a blind mans seeing eye dog could see theres plenty of sides in contention for 5th thru 8th. obviously we are one of those sides.  we are no chance for a flag and have a lot of building to do still to get there.
the positive is after the decades in the wilderness and the low base hardwick has come from  we continue to track in the right direction.
i still think it very concievable that we will miss finals all together but so could 10 other sides in contention for bottom half of the 8. thing is we could miss and concievably still track in the right direction.

can i ask everyone. what if we have a yr like nm did after making finals the yr before. we could be super competetive in 95% of games but miss finals thru whatever reason.  we could improve across the board like nm did would that be acceptable. i think it would. the evenness of the comp can mean a rollercoaster from yr to yr as far as results go.
it wont be until we are a genuine lay down misere top 4 side that we may be able to get off that roller coaster.

lets look to improve in all things, and if we do and fail so be it. i actually think both nm and essendon were better in yrs they missed finals than the yrs they made it.

come rnd 1 against gcs if we dont play at our best we may well walk away with our tail between our legs thats how even the comps become.
in some ways i think with the way we have gone about the list the last two yrs finals shoul;d be expected but that would be churlish when all other things are considered. we are in a real dog fight make no mistake about it.

I think round 1 will be one of the hardest games we play in the first month. I would be more confident that we beat Carlton than GC up at Metricon.  They're going to be one scary side soon!

[crackertiger]

Sheahan - We [the media] offer to much slack to Richmond.

I'm sure it was a slip of the tongue and he meant to say Essendon...

She must be friends withs Nahas

[Penelope]

lol

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Sheahan - We [the media] offer to much slack to Richmond

Spoken like a true, self proclaimed demigod.....

[one-eyed]

Mike and Wheatley have us missing the Eight  .



SuperFooty experts gaze into their crystal balls and make their predictions for the 2014 AFL season
Herald-Sun
March 10, 2014

RICHMOND

Daryl Times:  3rd
Mark Hayes:  4th
Rebecca Williams:  5th
Jay Clark:  5th
David King:  5th
Matt Windley:  5th
Jon Ralph:  6th
Sam Landsberger: 6th
Shane Crawford:  6th
Mark Robinson:  7th
Scott Gullan:  7th
Bruce Matthews:  7th
Sam Edmund:  7th
Glenn McPharlane:  7th
Dermott Brereton:  7th


Mike Sheahan, Gerard Whateley, Jon Anderson, Warwick Green and Grant Baker don't have us in their respective top 8s.




THE RESULTS:

Experts’ Top 8 (based on giving top team 8 points and eigth team 1 point):

1. Fremantle (145 votes)
=2. Sydney (131)
=2. Hawthorn (131)
4. Geelong (74)
5. Collingwood (61)
6. North Melbourne (56)
7. Richmond (48)
8. Essendon (31)

Premiers:
Fremantle (9)
Sydney (6)
Hawthorn (5)

Wooden spoon:
St Kilda (11)
GWS (7)
Brisbane (2)

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/superfooty-experts-gaze-into-their-crystal-balls-and-make-their-predictions-for-the-2014-afl-season/story-fnelctok-1226849610701

[🏅Dooks]

We the public offer journos like Sheehan and Wheatley too much slack