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Re: Rookie Promotion - The Big O and The Human Wrecking Ball
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2014, 05:59:42 PM »
why couldn't they have delayed O until marics return was cl3earer then put him on LTI...I would have tossed around banfield or miles...good case for either
Because Maric would have to sit out VFL/AFL for 8 weeks  :whistle

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« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2014, 06:31:42 PM »
the failure of vickery as a ruckman continues to cost us. wanna hope he can do a decent job as a kpf.
lol at those who think vickery and griffiths even capable of holding down 1st ruck, or that hampson has been better as a first ruck than stephenson to date.


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Re: Rookie Promotion - The Big O and The Human Wrecking Ball
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2014, 06:41:12 PM »
Yes lol @ those who have a different opinion to you.

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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2014, 06:50:58 PM »
why couldn't they have delayed O until marics return was cl3earer then put him on LTI...I would have tossed around banfield or miles...good case for either
Because Maric would have to sit out VFL/AFL for 8 weeks  :whistle
what is his likely return date. if he misses  6 to 8 weeks rgardless, this will look silly.  surely they must have some idea on how long he will miss for by now.

disagree on thomas as well ive seen enough of the blunders and turnovers at afl level to promote miles instead.

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Re: Rookie Promotion - The Big O and The Human Wrecking Ball
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2014, 06:54:42 PM »
why couldn't they have delayed O until marics return was cl3earer then put him on LTI...I would have tossed around banfield or miles...good case for either
Because Maric would have to sit out VFL/AFL for 8 weeks  :whistle
what is his likely return date. if he misses  6 to 8 weeks rgardless, this will look silly.  surely they must have some idea on how long he will miss for by now.

disagree on thomas as well ive seen enough of the blunders and turnovers at afl level to promote miles instead.

Injury list says he 5-6 weeks. So based on that he would be back around round 4, remembering we have a week off next week
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« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2014, 07:24:49 PM »
Yes lol @ those who have a different opinion to you.
yep its hilarious when posts are nonsensical. and just a bland statement with nothing to back em up.
instead of sooking because someone found  your opinion a tad naieve and humerous because of it,  why not try and back it up with some stats or facts or anything  for that matter.

 blokes who are scared cannot play in the ruck. softie vickery is going to play first ruck despite every single indicator saying other wise.,  the actions of the club,  stats, body language and performance.hes been an abysmal failure as a ruckman and most things back up this comment.even the club recognise this. vickery as a ruckman should be more than capable of holding down the role at his stage of development and experience. yet we went and got hampson.

yes imo  its a silly opinion and mildly amusing because of the stubborn insistence that despite everything to the contrary blokes will perform the role.

 god forbid we entrust the  #1 ruck position to a bloke who has shwon time and time again to be physically  fragile  mentally soft and unable to get a kick in a footy factory. what possible realistic case could be made to give griffiths the role if hampson goes down.


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Re: Rookie Promotion - The Big O and The Human Wrecking Ball
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2014, 08:01:57 PM »
the failure of vickery as a ruckman continues to cost us. wanna hope he can do a decent job as a kpf.
lol at those who think vickery and griffiths even capable of holding down 1st ruck, or that hampson has been better as a first ruck than stephenson to date.

Hampson and Griffiths has worked to date imo. Both are ahead of Stephenson for mine atm.

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« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2014, 08:19:30 PM »
Yes lol @ those who have a different opinion to you.
yep its hilarious when posts are nonsensical. and just a bland statement with nothing to back em up.
instead of sooking because someone found  your opinion a tad naieve and humerous because of it,  why not try and back it up with some stats or facts or anything  for that matter.

 blokes who are scared cannot play in the ruck. softie vickery is going to play first ruck despite every single indicator saying other wise.,  the actions of the club,  stats, body language and performance.hes been an abysmal failure as a ruckman and most things back up this comment.even the club recognise this. vickery as a ruckman should be more than capable of holding down the role at his stage of development and experience. yet we went and got hampson.

yes imo  its a silly opinion and mildly amusing because of the stubborn insistence that despite everything to the contrary blokes will perform the role.

 god forbid we entrust the  #1 ruck position to a bloke who has shwon time and time again to be physically  fragile  mentally soft and unable to get a kick in a footy factory. what possible realistic case could be made to give griffiths the role if hampson goes down.

Try and reason the merits of it with a narcissist? No stuffing chance pal.

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Re: Rookie Promotion - The Big O and The Human Wrecking Ball
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2014, 08:19:48 PM »
I ultimately think this was the wisest choice.

What happens if Hampson does a hamstring and is out for a month?

No Maric for 6 weeks.  No Hampson for 4.

That would mean our only rucks would be Vickery and Griffiths neither of who are bona fide ruckmen. We would have to start the year against reasonable opposition at a huge disadvantage.

Yes, I would have loved to see Miles and to a lesser extent Banfield, but they will get their chance if we have a long term injury.

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« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2014, 08:23:38 PM »
I ultimately think this was the wisest choice.

What happens if Hampson does a hamstring and is out for a month?

No Maric for 6 weeks.  No Hampson for 4.

That would mean our only rucks would be Vickery and Griffiths neither of who are bona fide ruckmen. We would have to start the year against reasonable opposition at a huge disadvantage.

Yes, I would have loved to see Miles and to a lesser extent Banfield, but they will get their chance if we have a long term injury.

Good thinking 99……….as they say!

The thing is by the time Maric is recovered enough to get back into full training he will have missed nearly 3 months of training so there is no chance he'd be close to selection before round 7 or 8 anyhow imo. Will need 2-4 weeks of full training to get conditioning back up. Hence why I would have put Maric on LTI, elevated Miles and bring in big O only if Hampson or Griff go down. Even if Griff goes down I seriously doubt Dimma would play Big O in the side anyway, with the cap on interchange you need players who can contribute around the ground, don't think he can

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Re: Rookie Promotion - The Big O and The Human Wrecking Ball
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2014, 08:28:12 PM »
the failure of vickery as a ruckman continues to cost us. wanna hope he can do a decent job as a kpf.
lol at those who think vickery and griffiths even capable of holding down 1st ruck, or that hampson has been better as a first ruck than stephenson to date.

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Re: Rookie Promotion - The Big O and The Human Wrecking Ball
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2014, 08:30:36 PM »
I am disappointed with the decision but I understand the reason it was made. Griffiths and Hampson have had a history of injury so obviously the Big O is being elevate in case Hampson in particular develops a minor injury that keeps him out a handful of weeks rather than a larger injury that would put him on the long term injury list.

In saying that, the likelihood that O sits in the wings and never gets a game is high compared to Miles who could have added to the team immediately. I believe Miles would have claimed the substitute role very early in the season and then forced his way into the team. Miles was playing a great level and was highly motivated which would have flowed over into the AFL. He has a great deal of that word we fear to speak now days....potential and could potentially becomes a 8-10 year player for us. The Big O is insurance plan and simple.

Anyway, we have assembled our list by taking as little risks as possible and it has worked so I guess we should trust in a similar strategy to cover potential injuries. Still disappointing though  :facepalm

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Re: Rookie Promotion - The Big O and The Human Wrecking Ball
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2014, 08:32:05 PM »
I reckon people getting a bit over board with the miles love

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« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2014, 08:37:13 PM »
I ultimately think this was the wisest choice.

What happens if Hampson does a hamstring and is out for a month?

No Maric for 6 weeks.  No Hampson for 4.

That would mean our only rucks would be Vickery and Griffiths neither of who are bona fide ruckmen. We would have to start the year against reasonable opposition at a huge disadvantage.

Yes, I would have loved to see Miles and to a lesser extent Banfield, but they will get their chance if we have a long term injury.

Good thinking 99……….as they say!

The thing is by the time Maric is recovered enough to get back into full training he will have missed nearly 3 months of training so there is no chance he'd be close to selection before round 7 or 8 anyhow imo. Will need 2-4 weeks of full training to get conditioning back up. Hence why I would have put Maric on LTI, elevated Miles and bring in big O only if Hampson or Griff go down. Even if Griff goes down I seriously doubt Dimma would play Big O in the side anyway, with the cap on interchange you need players who can contribute around the ground, don't think he can

I think you are making an error here.  The 5 to 6 weeks listed INCLUDE recovery to full training.  Why are you adding further weeks?  If that was the case the club would have already put him on the LTI.
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Re: Rookie Promotion - The Big O and The Human Wrecking Ball
« Reply #29 on: March 11, 2014, 08:45:01 PM »
why couldn't they have delayed O until marics return was cl3earer then put him on LTI...I would have tossed around banfield or miles...good case for either
Because Maric would have to sit out VFL/AFL for 8 weeks  :whistle
what is his likely return date. if he misses  6 to 8 weeks rgardless, this will look silly.  surely they must have some idea on how long he will miss for by now.

disagree on thomas as well ive seen enough of the blunders and turnovers at afl level to promote miles instead.
5-6 weeks and with a split round 1 it's only 4-5 games. Meaning he's sitting around doing nothing for 3-4 games.