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Re: Forward Structure
« Reply #60 on: December 01, 2014, 06:23:23 PM »
This end is the goal square, fyi
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Re: Forward Structure
« Reply #61 on: December 01, 2014, 07:56:29 PM »
Cotch is a very good small forward too, great user & sharer of the pill. 

Really I must have been reading another forum on here this year then

Goal Assists for 2014
Jack    18
Dusty  18
Sheds  16
Cotch   13
Lids     12
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Miles     2

To add some perspective - Ablett 19.  League high - Robbie Gray 33  C/o AFL site.

I have no idea what you have been reading or why ...
 
13 goal assists by Cotch isn't poor (Ablett on 19) & it shows his ability to share it & create goals for others is at least reasonable for a midfielder.  More time up forward would give him more chances to impact the scoreboard himself or to set up others.  I'd really like to see Cotch given a shot at the famed 'defensive small forward' role more often - providing we have the depth to cover him in the middle!       

It was this forum actually , good point on what I was reading and why, I often ask myself that question

FWIW I am with you on Cotch, we are blessed to have him and the knobs that can't see that are deluded

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Re: Forward Structure
« Reply #62 on: December 01, 2014, 09:23:43 PM »
hmm people wanted to play riewoldt vickery griffiths and ffs at times mcbean in the one fwd line this yr. yet the same people complained about the lack of fwd pressure and how easy sides took the ball out of our fwd line. go figure.

 what was the area of biggest failure this yr, whats that i hear the fwd line.
the epitimy of madness is to do the same thing over and over expecting different results each time.or maybe some really do believe in magical fairies.


on 6 occasions last yr we played all of vickery, riewoldt, and griffiths in the same fwd line. we lost on 4 occasions only beating a lamentable gws and carlton in rnd 2 where they should have overrun us.
id say playing all three in the same fwd line did not work,  it created all sorts of problems for us not the opposition. yet some wanted to add mcbean to the mix.

is there a place for vickery and griffiths in the same fwd line. imo no. both play exactly the same role and both have  shown  so far they are not good enough to play either the ruck role or kpf role exclusively. hence i dont believe we can play both. play one as a 2nd ruck with time fwd and find a more traditional kpf who is capable of playing kpf exclusively to partner riewoldt.

as for cotchin, deledio, martin here i was under the impression they rotated fairly regularly thru the fwd line. geez between the 3 they must have kicked close to 100 goals. there was nearly always one of em in the fwd half thus solving one of the flank problems.
my issue with this is i dont think any of them are good defensively, especially deledio and martin. geez that is going to cause a stir.


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Re: Forward Structure
« Reply #63 on: December 02, 2014, 12:00:40 PM »
Martin and Deledio don't need to be good defensively.

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Re: Forward Structure
« Reply #64 on: December 02, 2014, 12:46:02 PM »
God, lets not start the cuase to send them down back to learn their defensive roles AGAIN.. :banghead

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Re: Forward Structure
« Reply #65 on: December 02, 2014, 12:57:42 PM »
hmm people wanted to play riewoldt vickery griffiths and ffs at times mcbean in the one fwd line this yr. yet the same people complained about the lack of fwd pressure and how easy sides took the ball out of our fwd line. go figure.

 what was the area of biggest failure this yr, whats that i hear the fwd line.
the epitimy of madness is to do the same thing over and over expecting different results each time.or maybe some really do believe in magical fairies.


on 6 occasions last yr we played all of vickery, riewoldt, and griffiths in the same fwd line. we lost on 4 occasions only beating a lamentable gws and carlton in rnd 2 where they should have overrun us.
id say playing all three in the same fwd line did not work,  it created all sorts of problems for us not the opposition. yet some wanted to add mcbean to the mix.

is there a place for vickery and griffiths in the same fwd line. imo no. both play exactly the same role and both have  shown  so far they are not good enough to play either the ruck role or kpf role exclusively. hence i dont believe we can play both. play one as a 2nd ruck with time fwd and find a more traditional kpf who is capable of playing kpf exclusively to partner riewoldt.

as for cotchin, deledio, martin here i was under the impression they rotated fairly regularly thru the fwd line. geez between the 3 they must have kicked close to 100 goals. there was nearly always one of em in the fwd half thus solving one of the flank problems.
my issue with this is i dont think any of them are good defensively, especially deledio and martin. geez that is going to cause a stir.

geez the moon must be about to collide with the earth, coz i fully agree about playing three tall forwards, and not just last year.

I know other teams do it with success, but over the last 3-4 years our forward line has worked much better with only two tall forwards.

whether this is simply a result of the dynamics of the players involved or down to coaching/gameplan i do not know.
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Re: Forward Structure
« Reply #66 on: December 02, 2014, 02:31:10 PM »
Need to do a rotational system where the third tall forward goes to the backline to work on their defensive skills

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Re: Forward Structure
« Reply #67 on: December 02, 2014, 08:24:26 PM »
 :laugh:
I still think the best forward structure is two forward pockets either side of a full forward, preferably close to the goals, and two forward flankers either side of a centre half forward a little further up the ground.

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Re: Forward Structure
« Reply #68 on: December 02, 2014, 08:26:49 PM »
Just get the midfielders to kick them.
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Caracella and Balmey.

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Re: Forward Structure
« Reply #69 on: December 02, 2014, 08:32:54 PM »
:laugh:
I still think the best forward structure is two forward pockets either side of a full forward, preferably close to the goals, and two forward flankers either side of a centre half forward a little further up the ground.

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Re: Forward Structure
« Reply #70 on: December 02, 2014, 08:45:52 PM »
:laugh:
I still think the best forward structure is two forward pockets either side of a full forward, preferably close to the goals, and two forward flankers either side of a centre half forward a little further up the ground.

Would love to see that happen again.
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Re: Forward Structure
« Reply #71 on: December 02, 2014, 08:55:09 PM »
Tortoise formation was also quite a handy forward structure


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Re: Forward Structure
« Reply #72 on: December 02, 2014, 09:04:30 PM »
Tortoise formation was also quite a handy forward structure



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Re: Forward Structure
« Reply #73 on: December 02, 2014, 09:14:49 PM »
No good having 200cm blokes poking their  head out the top either.

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Re: Forward Structure
« Reply #74 on: December 02, 2014, 09:17:04 PM »
No one over 200 cms has ever been good at our club. This clearly explains why.