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Re: Give us back the old Jack Riewoldt: Lloyd (Age)
« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2014, 04:08:50 PM »
One on one .high ball to top of square or on a long lead .he wins 7 out 10
End of story
Plays out of square on Thursday we win
Want to have him high up on the wing
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Re: Give us back the old Jack Riewoldt: Lloyd (Age)
« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2014, 04:43:12 PM »
Clear out the 50 and just let him lead into space and even a VFL forward will win more of it on an AA defender. It's why teams use spare defenders to clog the space and try to stop this. Unless you've got a massive bloke like Jonno Brown or Cloke then teams will hope you bang it in high to a 1v1 or 1v2 in the goal square every time.
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Re: Give us back the old Jack Riewoldt: Lloyd (Age)
« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2014, 06:23:14 PM »
So how well has our forward line been functioning under the various alternative set-ups we've used?

Why does everyone automatically assume playing Riewoldt as a deep full forward and having more than one option are mutually exclusive and means we'd have to clear out the forward line? The key is the midfield delivery & decision making, a second tall that can compete, knows where to stand and some half decent crumbers.






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Re: Give us back the old Jack Riewoldt: Lloyd (Age)
« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2014, 06:38:29 PM »
Has anyone ever said that they are mutually exclusive?

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The key is the midfield delivery & decision making, a second tall that can compete, knows where to stand and some half decent crumbers.
this is spot on, and has very little to do with Riewoldt and how many goals goals he kicks himself
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Re: Give us back the old Jack Riewoldt: Lloyd (Age)
« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2014, 07:22:35 PM »
Quote from: al on March 23, 2014, 06:38:29 PM
Has anyone ever said that they are mutually exclusive?

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The key is the midfield delivery & decision making, a second tall that can compete, knows where to stand and some half decent crumbers.
this is spot on, and has very little to do with Riewoldt and how many goals goals he kicks himself
This is not the whole story Al.
It's how the mids and backs protect the guy with the ball kicking it forward too. We do not block and protect the ball carrier anywhere near as week as the top teams. This in turn leads to rushed and pressured kicks into the forward line and this in turn gives the opposition backs the chance to cover their men or double team the main guys.
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Re: Give us back the old Jack Riewoldt: Lloyd (Age)
« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2014, 07:42:07 PM »
FWIW I was talking to a club administrator up on GC last week and he was saying that Jack has had a silly amount of surgery in the last few off seasons. A lot more than we know. Reckons its killed his leap.
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Re: Give us back the old Jack Riewoldt: Lloyd (Age)
« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2014, 08:15:53 PM »
Excuses
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Re: Give us back the old Jack Riewoldt: Lloyd (Age)
« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2014, 08:17:36 PM »
You should know better than that Big Willy.....it's the year of no excuses
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Re: Give us back the old Jack Riewoldt: Lloyd (Age)
« Reply #38 on: March 23, 2014, 08:36:43 PM »
It actually doesn't excuse a lot of his shortcomings. But I think it might have a bearing on where he is played.
Not trying to make excuses for him.
He was poo last week, regardless of supply. Needs to lift.
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Re: Give us back the old Jack Riewoldt: Lloyd (Age)
« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2014, 10:00:06 PM »
Champion Tigers goalkicker Matthew Richardson yesterday joined the chorus of critics keen to see Jack Riewoldt, used as a decoy in last year’s final, play closer to goal

“Jack Riewoldt needs to be the deepest forward. He’s the best forward, so he needs to be closest to goal and the main target,’’ he told 3AW.

Source: News Limited
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Re: Give us back the old Jack Riewoldt: Lloyd (Age)
« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2014, 01:45:49 AM »
Lol. Damien, Damien...
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Re: Give us back the old Jack Riewoldt: Lloyd (Age)
« Reply #41 on: March 24, 2014, 08:36:46 AM »
Quote from: Willy on March 23, 2014, 07:42:07 PM
FWIW I was talking to a club administrator up on GC last week and he was saying that Jack has had a silly amount of surgery in the last few off seasons. A lot more than we know. Reckons its killed his leap.

If this is the case wouldn't it be all the more reason to play him closer to goal rather than increasing the amount of running he has to do?
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Re: Give us back the old Jack Riewoldt: Lloyd (Age)
« Reply #42 on: March 24, 2014, 08:46:11 AM »
Quote from: one-eyed on March 23, 2014, 10:00:06 PM
Champion Tigers goalkicker Matthew Richardson yesterday joined the chorus of critics keen to see Jack Riewoldt, used as a decoy in last year’s final, play closer to goal

“Jack Riewoldt needs to be the deepest forward. He’s the best forward, so he needs to be closest to goal and the main target,’’ he told 3AW.

Source: News Limited

Richo will be coaching us any day now.
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Re: Give us back the old Jack Riewoldt: Lloyd (Age)
« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2014, 10:53:03 AM »
Moreso the reason is that defenders began to block his run at the ball and therefore his jump. Needs a chance to rotate deep even if he won't play there for the whole game. All depends on matchups as much as anything. We have always been keen to drag Jamison away from goal as much as possible in the past.  :-\
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Re: Give us back the old Jack Riewoldt: Lloyd (Age)
« Reply #44 on: March 24, 2014, 11:00:24 AM »
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Quote from: yellowandback on March 23, 2014, 07:43:12 AM
Say you like about Llordo but he did kick 1000 goals and might have a point here.

Got about 5000 free kicks too


Usually do if you play in front  ::)

He took about 10 000 dives as well
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