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Re: Heads needs to role in our football department
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2014, 04:00:16 PM »
Like all things in life the fish rots at the head first and the RFC is no different.

Our off field leaders are tokenistic and limited when dealing with issues and timid in making the right calls both in the board room and the coaches box and this cancer spreads through to the on field department and the players who act and play accordingly.

With Balmey and Cook come to this club? Maybe given what they have achieved elsewhere as the challenge to succeed would be an additional feather n their caps but having a full footy club review run by them would mean heads would roll and thus make regimented people at the club uncomfortable so we'll get a Dan Richardson or some other klapa to run the gig and keep all and sundry comfortable, unaffected and completely aloof from the real issues affecting our club on and off field.

That is why we are stuffed and why we will always seem to be.

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Re: Heads needs to role in our football department
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2014, 05:26:34 PM »
The list is no good. Fix it.

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Re: Heads needs to role in our football department
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2014, 06:36:32 PM »
Choco actually got promoted this year

He is now Senior Development coach. Part of his role included working with the younger coaches and developing them as well as working with the players

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Re: Heads needs to role in our football department
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2014, 06:47:06 PM »
Don't reckon he ain't too happy putting the cones out for pre game warm up

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Re: Heads needs to role in our football department
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2014, 07:05:54 PM »

disagree the coaching panel and the entire football department are 3rd rate IMHO and thats shown by the results. the players themselves are ordinary as a group the whole joint is stuffed.

Would like to see assistants from outside the system (ie AFL, VFL, TAC)
Think it's Hinkley's greatest advantage, coaching his own country side and having to convince players to come on board.
By contrast, all coaches in the system have players locked into their control thru contracts and rules via the draft.

Only problem with this is that Football bosses only notice the coaches in the system not the gun country coaches.
 


 

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Re: Heads needs to role in our football department
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2014, 07:40:11 PM »
The Maric decision was laughable.
What Maric decision  ::)
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Re: Heads needs to role in our football department
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2014, 07:42:41 PM »
Our whole coaching panel is a bunch of nobodies. Choco excluded.
You get what you pay for and their has never been truer words when it come to that lot.
Other clubs have assistants that have even been senior AFL coaches themselves. We have Danny Daly  :whistle
I would love to sack the lot of them but with Dimma having another two years I guess he has to stay but get him some f:?king help.
IMO if we continue to lose, we will get an outstanding kid come draft time, trade out a few and make some tough calls. Our best 22 isn't far off with an injection of Miles, a second year Lennon, a fit Matty Dea and Grimes and a few extras through the draft, FA and trades.
FFS write this year off and look to 2015. Be smart for once!

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Re: Heads needs to role in our football department
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2014, 11:38:19 AM »
Look I said this before and Ill say it again Hardwick aint a good coach but the club threw him under a bus. They saw Leppitsch and Campbell walk out the door and replaced them with 2 assistants with basically no experience. The coaching panel as a whole is ordinary very ordinary.

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Re: Heads needs to role in our football department
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2014, 11:41:11 AM »
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Re: Heads needs to role in our football department
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2014, 11:44:44 AM »
Look I said this before and Ill say it again Hardwick aint a good coach but the club threw him under a bus. They saw Leppitsch and Campbell walk out the door and replaced them with 2 assistants with basically no experience. The coaching panel as a whole is ordinary very ordinary.

Sorry Ramps but you post is factually incorrect. I understand the point you are making but the examples you are using are not right  :thumbsup

Campbell had not been involved as an assistant coach for 2 seasons, he spent all of 2013 setting up our VFL side on field & off field + working with the leadership group on leadership

The 2 new coaches that have been bought in (McQualter & Bailey) are not match day assistants they are development coaches and line coaches at VFL level only. As development coaches they are under the tuteledge of Choco and TBH I reckon that's got to be a very good thing for them

You are however 100% spot on regardging Leppa, he left and they didn't replace him and IMV that's the biggest mistake they've made this year re coaching set-up

As for other "appointments" changes int he footy dept, I think most people would know what my biggest gripe is with that  ;D
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Re: Heads needs to role in our football department
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2014, 12:02:02 PM »
Would like to see assistants from outside the system (ie AFL, VFL, TAC)
Think it's Hinkley's greatest advantage, coaching his own country side and having to convince players to come on board.
By contrast, all coaches in the system have players locked into their control thru contracts and rules via the draft.

Further to my previous post, I live in the GV and one of the best coaches up here over years has been Dave "Dirty" Williams.
http://www.footyalmanac.com.au/david-williams-a-coaching-legacy/

NB: His Kyabram team won the GVFL premiership last year with their best junior, Nick Holman being drafted by Carlton at pick 51 after playing CHB in the GF.

And the other one is Luke Morgan, who is a younger (25) playing coach who took Benalla from bottom to second last year (adding only himself and Lachie Smith, ex Collingwood rookie) and personally won the league medal by streets (35 votes, 19 ahead of second).
http://www.mmg.com.au/local-sport/shepparton/morgan-leads-saints-with-a-cool-hand-and-head-1.48326

Both coaches are exactly what I feel we need in terms of buy-in, development and instilling fierce desire.

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Re: Heads needs to role in our football department
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2014, 01:15:03 PM »
You are however 100% spot on regardging Leppa, he left and they didn't replace him and IMV that's the biggest mistake they've made this year re coaching set-up

Agree totally with that.  The blame needs to be put where it rightly belongs though.  Clarko took less money when he joined Hawthorn to get the coaching team around him that he needed for success.   Hardwick let Leppa go and accepted this.  A good coach wouldn't have accepted this. They would have demanded a quality replacement.  You would have expected more appointments considering where we finished last year to drive the success.  Not less.  Hardwick is a big fish in a little pond of his own creation.  Clearly doesn't like people challenging him, team of yes men.

You would have to think Choco is being underutilized.  Had anger management issues but clearly was a very good coach in his day.

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Re: Heads needs to role in our football department
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2014, 01:27:47 PM »

Name the Balme or Bond in our footy department who the hell is Dan Richardson !.People were bagging Gary March as president .Now we have a president who doeesnt comee out and explain to the members and fans whats gone on and a ceo Gale who says there is not going to be no major review on the footy department thats laughable. 

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Re: Heads needs to role in our football department
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2014, 02:46:49 PM »
Choco. Wanted saints. Heart not in it.

Lepish not replaced.

Dimma still going with his grigg/Chaplin etc fetish. Substandard match day performance.

Non director of football role like successful clubs.

Nobodies in the minor roles and the reserves

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Re: Heads needs to role in our football department
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2014, 03:11:28 PM »
Choco. Wanted saints. Heart not in it.

And how do you know this?? Close friend of his I take it??