Tigers awful to watch: Patrick Smith (SEN)

[Diocletian]

not really.

i questioned how you could get top 4 when the two most important requirements in list and coach are both crap and you replied by asking if I thought

"Was that a great list with a good coach"

How did it get from one extreme to the other?

The first line was just  a rhetorical question -  an aside and an example of a team that did make top 4 with a poor coach and a below average list the fell away badly afterwards and though there are a few similarities it wasn't intended to be the crux of the post which dealt with the current list and why they are headed for a bottom 4 finish this year after finishing 5th last year.

Our list is clearly better than it was in 2002, certainly at it's core at least,  coach...well that's up for debate, let's just say I don't think it's any coincidence that his poor performance this year has coincided with the loss of key assistants and the subsequent failure to replace them.

[RedanTiger]

The first line was just  a rhetorical question -  an aside and an example of a team that did make top 4 with a poor coach and a below average list the fell away badly afterwards and though there are a few similarities it wasn't intended to be the crux of the post which dealt with the current list and why they are headed for a bottom 4 finish this year after finishing 5th last year. Suprised someone of your self-proclaimed superior intellect was unable to grasp that.

Our list is clearly better than it was in 2002, certainly at it's core at least,  coach...well that's up for debate, let's just say I don't think it's any coincidence that his poor performance this year has coincided with the loss of key assistants and the subsequent failure to replace them.

Rather amazing that you would comment on coaching staff when you don't know who they are.
Leppitsch is the ONLY assistant that has left.

[yellowandback]

I'd rather be awful to watch and win a flag than another other option right now.
Richmond shouldn't apologise for winning ugly which is what we should've done in the past 2 weeks against ugly playing sides who are up to their ears in the race for the flag.

[Hellenic Tiger]

I'd rather be awful to watch and win a flag than another other option right now.
Richmond shouldn't apologise for winning ugly which is what we should've done in the past 2 weeks against ugly playing sides who are up to their ears in the race for the flag.

Yep Sydney have done it twice and Lyon has almost done it 3 times.
Right now a four quarter effort would be good let alone a win but even that seems a little hollow right now.

[unplugged]

None of those Grand Finals were worth watching....

[Hellenic Tiger]

None of those Grand Finals were worth watching....

The second half of the draw was riveting, roller coaster stuff. 2009 was a great contest too.

Despite this a Premiership is a Premiership and we have not saluted the judge for 34 years.

I'd take one any way we could TBH.

[tony_montana]

The first line was just  a rhetorical question -  an aside and an example of a team that did make top 4 with a poor coach and a below average list the fell away badly afterwards and though there are a few similarities it wasn't intended to be the crux of the post which dealt with the current list and why they are headed for a bottom 4 finish this year after finishing 5th last year. Suprised someone of your self-proclaimed superior intellect was unable to grasp that.

Our list is clearly better than it was in 2002, certainly at it's core at least,  coach...well that's up for debate, let's just say I don't think it's any coincidence that his poor performance this year has coincided with the loss of key assistants and the subsequent failure to replace them.

Rather amazing that you would comment on coaching staff when you don't know who they are.
Leppitsch is the ONLY assistant that has left.

Even though cambpell wasn't an assistant strictly per se, he was opposition analyst in his last year, so we have lost 2 senior assistants over the past 2 years

[Diocletian]

The first line was just  a rhetorical question -  an aside and an example of a team that did make top 4 with a poor coach and a below average list the fell away badly afterwards and though there are a few similarities it wasn't intended to be the crux of the post which dealt with the current list and why they are headed for a bottom 4 finish this year after finishing 5th last year. Suprised someone of your self-proclaimed superior intellect was unable to grasp that.

Our list is clearly better than it was in 2002, certainly at it's core at least,  coach...well that's up for debate, let's just say I don't think it's any coincidence that his poor performance this year has coincided with the loss of key assistants and the subsequent failure to replace them.

Rather amazing that you would comment on coaching staff when you don't know who they are.
Leppitsch is the ONLY assistant that has left.

Yes Leppitsch is the main one I believe we're missing , but have you heard of a bloke named Wayne Campbell? Opposition analyst & leadership development -ergo an assistant to the coach. (Personally not a fan, but we're still down two assistants from last year.) Try again champ.

EDIT: Tony just beat me to it.

[Penelope]

None of those Grand Finals were worth watching....

I reckon the supporters of the winners would think otherwise

[Yeahright]

The Skata Cycle. 32 years and counting. Plop Plop Plop. ®©™

Aren't you sick of saying that? I'm sure as hell sick of seeing it

[unplugged]

You know, in 20 years, there has only been one ugly grand final win and that was Roos led Sydney.  You might want to rethink the ugly football wins grand finals theory because there is nothing to support it.  Longmire's Sydney was no where near as bad and at the end of the day, Hawthorn's inaccuracy gave them the win.

If Mark Harvey had the draw and injury run that Lyon had last year, Fremantle would have won the flag playing attacking football.  Instead they lost it playing ugly.

As much as winning a flag ugly would take any joy out of it, how much more painful could it be than losing a flag playing ugly.  Only good thing about last years Grand Final was seeing Lyon lose. 

[Chuck17]

The Skata Cycle. 32 years and counting. Plop Plop Plop. ®©™

Aren't you sick of saying that? I'm sure as hell sick of seeing it

Can't argue against the cycle

[Hellenic Tiger]

The Skata Cycle. 32 years and counting. Plop Plop Plop. ®©™

Aren't you sick of saying that? I'm sure as hell sick of seeing it

Yeahright.

I'm sick of 32 years of failure, underachievement and spin that's what I am sick of your sick of something I have come up to describe this since our loss to Hawthorn and that's been two months.
Would you like me to change my saying.

The RFC 10 kg spin cycle. Underachievement, spin, crisis and failure, 32 years and still counting but don't worry it's ok, RFC told us so.®©™

How's that, feel snug as a bug in a rug now?

[Yeahright]

Not really

[tony_montana]

Then we wonder why there's a cycle of Skata at punt road.

What is causing the skata? Where is it located?
Why can't they get rid of the stench?
Got any actual solutions or do we just go plop, plop, plop and sling it at them?

Players who offer nothing like Titch Edwards getting contract extensions is one then having someone come on here and say Dusty should be traded because he doesn't run defensively is enough but Titch getting an extension is fantastic is another.
Can't think of anything else right now.

The Skata Cycle. 32 years and counting. Plop Plop Plop. ®©™

Oh no you dittint     I missed this one - that's a burn