I agree Claw, St Kilda quickly realised the position they are in and have been playing their kids for most of the season. The Lions are also doing it.
Richmond??? We have an inflated sense of self worth which is preventing us from seeing the real state of affairs and as we all know, it isn't pretty. We have 6 or 7 Players which I believe have reached their maximum potential which is mediocre at best, 4 or 5 recycled's which have not provided us with any consistent four quarter efforts (Miles the exception), 4 or 5 quality players that are having to shoulder the load for the majority of the team and we have a 5 or 6 quality kids that could be given a go for the remainder of the season that so far have not been given a decent run at AFL level. Dimma has gone from cleaning out the cupboard to locking the cupboard and it frustrates the crap out of me.