Changes for the Port game?

[bojangles17]

Nothing personal against pettard but he's OK at best..

Would would u have him in the side over

Morris - who is three times as tough
Bean - who is three times as much potential
Vlastuin - wwho just better

I'd keep pettard on the list over a lot of people

Petterd is a much better footballer than Morris , every day of the week

[WilliamPowell]

Someone that gives his all is fantastic in Petterd's case but if you are not up to it, it doesn't really matter. The Dees got rid of him because he is no good when they we're even worse.  A good trier or a good clubman will only get you so far.
As for Morris, I simply think you are wrong. On one hand you talk about Petterd 'giving his all' and then you want to rubbish Morris who gives more than anyone in a Tigers jumper. What the??
And don't even get me started on your opinion on Thomas. He has his deficiencies like Petterd but I don't think you can argue he gives his all.
Let's be honest, they are all pathetic baring a few. Including the coaching staff. 

Hold on a minute.

I have never once questioned Thomas' endeavours, his attack on a contest, his courage. My issue with him is his deficiencies in his disposal which even you admit exist. So I reckon it is fair to say he and Petterd are on par with their deficiencies (disposal) so perhaps we should apply the same rules to both regarding their selection or non selection. 

As for Morris, did I question whether Morris "gives his all"? Again no I didn't. What I did was raise something I think is a deficiency in his game. They are 2 very different things aren't they? Or do we only question certain players deficiencies and not others? Are you saying that he has zero do eficiencies in his game?

What I will say and did say is I don't think he should be an automatic selection anymore. But he remains one because his one of the favourites. And believe me there is no doubt in my mind he is a favourite. I think there are only a handful that should be automatic selections. But going on what we've witnessed during 2014 at the selection table you'd think that the majority are automatics 

I reckon we could raise an argument for a deficiency in any player. All players have them it's just that they tend to get overlooked with certain blokes and put under the microscope with others

I agree with your last statement though, that's just another reason we are in the mess we find ourselves in this year.

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Morris,
Another Hardwick tries to mould into his own likeness....

[Judge Roughneck]

Nothing personal against pettard but he's OK at best..

Would would u have him in the side over

Morris - who is three times as tough
Bean - who is three times as much potential
Vlastuin - wwho just better

I'd keep pettard on the list over a lot of people

Petterd is a much better footballer than Morris , every day of the week

If they are both going for the same 50/50 ball morris would win 8/10,times

[Judge Roughneck]

More so morris being able do a job on small forward wins votes

Pettard dime a dozen

[Willy]

Morris is much more valuable than Pettard. Pettard would be killed by some of the small forwards that Morro has shut down.

[DCrane]

I'm far from the biggest Pettard fan but you can't drop him on recent form. Good on him for getting 25 possies but I think he would be better for us playing deeper forward in a defensive 3rd tall type role and getting 10 kicks for 3 goals. A slightly better version of McGuane if you like.

[eliminator]

Saw Arnot lay a couple of heavy tackles today.

That alone gets him another few games in this side.

Arnot needs to get more of the ball however I thought he was okay. His tackle in the third quarter was a ripper. He is one of the few in the team whose tackles stick. He also had 16 pressure acts. Should be given a second chance. O'Hanlon looked okay. Should be given a second chance. Houli and Foley should be dropped. Both turned over the ball too much. Need composure of Vlas. Would bring in Morris as well.

[eliminator]

I'm far from the biggest Pettard fan but you can't drop him on recent form. Good on him for getting 25 possies but I think he would be better for us playing deeper forward in a defensive 3rd tall type role and getting 10 kicks for 3 goals. A slightly better version of McGuane if you like.

Totally agree. If you are going to play him play him in the forward line.

[YellowandBlackBlood]

I'm far from the biggest Pettard fan but you can't drop him on recent form. Good on him for getting 25 possies but I think he would be better for us playing deeper forward in a defensive 3rd tall type role and getting 10 kicks for 3 goals. A slightly better version of McGuane if you like.

Totally agree. If you are going to play him play him in the forward line.

True. His iffy disposal can kill us in the backline. He is a handy defensive forward though. Knows how to kick a goal too.
Not our worst at all this year.
At least he puts his body on the line. Some of his teammates should follow his example....

[bojangles17]

His disposal is no more iffy than martins or cotchins .... FACT

[Smokey]

Someone that gives his all is fantastic in Petterd's case but if you are not up to it, it doesn't really matter. The Dees got rid of him because he is no good when they we're even worse.  A good trier or a good clubman will only get you so far.
As for Morris, I simply think you are wrong. On one hand you talk about Petterd 'giving his all' and then you want to rubbish Morris who gives more than anyone in a Tigers jumper. What the??
And don't even get me started on your opinion on Thomas. He has his deficiencies like Petterd but I don't think you can argue he gives his all.
Let's be honest, they are all pathetic baring a few. Including the coaching staff. 

ATM I would be playing all of them, Petterd, Morris (if his shoulder wasn't stuffed - he should actually be in rehab if the club had half a brain) and Thomas, and my reason is simple - the coaching group have created the current situation by gifting games to favourites, downhill skiers and non-triers.  The whole list needs to learn and understand that the not-negotiable Hardwick banged on about when he was first appointed is set in stone and unless you go when it's your turn then you don't play - pure and simple.    Make that simple edict truly not-negotiable and stick by it so that then, when the hunger returns, you will find the Petterds et al will be forced from the team by better performing players and that will mean we are playing confident winning football again.  There is no fear among our best 22 of playing for their position in the team or reward for the younger players having a dip in the 2's and that leads exactly to where we are now - a lazy, disinterested team bereft of any heart or confidence.

[Judge Roughneck]

His disposal is no more iffy than martins or cotchins .... FACT

You can fact on as much as u like about the kicking wonders of pettard and Thomas as much as u like

But the eyes say martin and Cotchin are on another level

[one-eyed]

The Barometer - Round 17
Herald-Sun
07 July 2014

RICHMOND

ON THE BLOCK: Matthew Arnot and Bret O’Hanlon would be the most likely to miss after sluggish performances at the weekend.

ON THE CUSP: Steven Morris is set to return after serving his one-match ban. Shaun Hampson could come in to stretch Port Adelaide’s defence. Sam Lloyd was the pick of the Tigers’ on VFL duty from Matt McDonough and Liam McBean who kicked five goals in the win over Melbourne affiliate Casey Scorpions.

GILBERT GARDINER’S FORECAST: It was ugly but a win nonetheless. The Tigers must find another gear to be any chance of knocking over Port Adelaide at Etihad Stadium on Sunday. Trent Cotchin is back to his best while Dustin Martin tightened his grip on the Tigers’ best-and-fairest with 34 disposals at the weekend.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/the-barometer-gary-ablett-patrick-dangerfield-among-stars-in-doubt-for-round-17/story-fnelctok-1226980337503

[Chuck17]

Shaun Hampson could come in to stretch Port Adelaide’s defence.

yeah right, all that means is the hampson's opponent can double team JR