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Cassisi dropped, Newman plays - culture or coincidence?
« on: July 12, 2014, 08:38:25 AM »
It's interesting that Port are in the Top 4 and we are bottom 6 and yet they are prepared to make statements on players whereas we are not.

Newman and Cassisi - both ex captains, both leaders at the club and both struggling to have impact on field.

One gets dropped, one plays.

At some point when sticking your head in the sand you end up suffocating.
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Cassisi dropped, Newman plays - culture or coincidence?
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2014, 08:49:25 AM »
It's interesting that Port are in the Top 4 and we are bottom 6 and yet they are prepared to make statements on players whereas we are not.

Newman and Cassisi - both ex captains, both leaders at the club and both struggling to have impact on field.

One gets dropped, one plays.

At some point when sticking your head in the sand you end up suffocating.

So, this happens weekly with our club, why raise it in another thread????? Get used to it and get over it, nothing will change.
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Re: Cassisi dropped, Newman plays - culture or coincidence?
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2014, 09:17:24 AM »
One clubs ex captain gets dropped for poor form while another's continues to get a game.
Happens all the time  :wallywink
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Cassisi dropped, Newman plays - culture or coincidence?
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2014, 10:03:25 AM »
interesting comparison, similar output this year by the stats , for mine Mcdonough is the replacement for Newman, sadly I reckon he ll walk due to lack of ops  :banghead he s the only one that will rile me should we lose him out of contract
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Re: Cassisi dropped, Newman plays - culture or coincidence?
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2014, 10:09:54 AM »
I understand the need to make all players earn their spot,and I have no issue at all with that.However in watching last weeks game I can see why they rush newman straight back in,and that's for his leadership,something this team is absolutely desperate for out on the field

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Re: Cassisi dropped, Newman plays - culture or coincidence?
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2014, 11:05:14 AM »
says it all HRT - culture

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Re: Cassisi dropped, Newman plays - culture or coincidence?
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2014, 11:12:55 AM »
It's interesting that Port are in the Top 4 and we are bottom 6 and yet they are prepared to make statements on players whereas we are not.

Newman and Cassisi - both ex captains, both leaders at the club and both struggling to have impact on field.

One gets dropped, one plays.

At some point when sticking your head in the sand you end up suffocating.

Poignant isn't it. :yep

Both clubs are going places, sadly for us it's in a southerly direction. :help
We gift games to players who waltz into the seniors no questions asked yet other clubs ask questions of all the players in their squads where reputations or past titles mean nothing in the ultimate pursuit of success.

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Re: Cassisi dropped, Newman plays - culture or coincidence?
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2014, 11:22:01 AM »

We gift games to players who waltz into the seniors no questions asked yet other clubs ask questions of all the players in their squads where reputations or past titles mean nothing in the ultimate pursuit of success.

That is why everything we do from top to bottom is token

Find it hard to find truer words spoken about our club.

You look at what Mick is doing this season with Garlett and Waite - last season he did it to Yarran and to a lesser extent gibbs- when questioned on Gibbs early last year his response was he's got to learn where WE want him to play. Can you imagine dimma talking like that about newman, Tyrone, Houli?

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Re: Cassisi dropped, Newman plays - culture or coincidence?
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2014, 11:22:14 AM »
I understand the need to make all players earn their spot,and I have no issue at all with that.However in watching last weeks game I can see why they rush newman straight back in,and that's for his leadership,something this team is absolutely desperate for out on the field

Newman does not show leadership nor is he accountable.
He never really was accountable but in a team of unskilled players he stuck out like a sore thumb off half back once upon a time. Now that Father Time has caught up with him and his body is starting to fail him his inadequacies are really starting to show further.

If the excuse of him being selected straight back from injury is based on leadership then that is a blight on the club and clearly points to culture and a distinct lack of leaders at the club which makes us the failed on field organisation we have been for more than three decades. Lamentably it's all a domino effect starts at the top works it's way down and is shown in the on field performances.

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Re: Cassisi dropped, Newman plays - culture or coincidence?
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2014, 11:24:44 AM »

We gift games to players who waltz into the seniors no questions asked yet other clubs ask questions of all the players in their squads where reputations or past titles mean nothing in the ultimate pursuit of success.

That is why everything we do from top to bottom is token

Find it hard to find truer words spoken about our club.

You look at what Mick is doing this season with Garlett and Waite - last season he did it to Yarran and to a lesser extent gibbs- when questioned on Gibbs early last year his response was he's got to learn where WE want him to play. Can you imagine dimma talking like that about newman, Tyrone, Houli?

Dimma would just say "hey listen fellas try to do something today the folks on OER, PRE and every other RFC forum are starting to lose it with us. You know I loves ya. I'll get you a golden gaytime after the game, so long as you don't play like one and if you do don't worry you'll have next week to look somewhat like a decent consistent footballer, I promise". :help

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Re: Cassisi dropped, Newman plays - culture or coincidence?
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2014, 11:48:30 AM »
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Re: Cassisi dropped, Newman plays - culture or coincidence?
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2014, 12:07:18 PM »
I thought this showed we are serious about tanking this year by still playing Jacko, grigg, newy, pettard etc. Even playing steve morris with one arm was a give away!
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Re: Cassisi dropped, Newman plays - culture or coincidence?
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2014, 12:29:35 PM »
It's interesting that Port are in the Top 4 and we are bottom 6 and yet they are prepared to make statements on players whereas we are not.

Newman and Cassisi - both ex captains, both leaders at the club and both struggling to have impact on field.

One gets dropped, one plays.

At some point when sticking your head in the sand you end up suffocating.

So, this happens weekly with our club, why raise it in another thread????? Get used to it and get over it, nothing will change.

Same could be said about a lot of your threads ::)

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Re: Cassisi dropped, Newman plays - culture or coincidence?
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2014, 12:31:28 PM »
Cassisi as good as he has been. Is seen as the 22/23/24 player at port.
Newman and Jackson are rated as demigods who don't need to play twos.

Highlights what a rabble we are
respect to port. They are a proper chance at the flag.and yet still have a future and youth is the first priority which is good for the long term health of the club.

In sheer opposition to richmond who was recently last and now in the prime position for 9th. With the favouritism towards o,ld list blockers stopping the kids getting a go what so ever
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Re: Cassisi dropped, Newman plays - culture or coincidence?
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2014, 01:09:02 PM »
Jackson played twos for a few weeks before he came back last week. So I have no problem I guess but I think the one that irks me and most RFC fans is the fact that Newman does his calf waltzes straight back in no questions asked whilst a kid makes a mistake or has a bad game and is dropped.

Then to pi$$ the supporters off even more Newman misses again with another niggle and waltzes straight back in.
Kids like Arnot, O'Hanlon get limited game time and get dropped. I don't care if they don't make it but at least give them a go lets be sure, as this depth that was so glowingly talked about last year is indeed a furphy and will bite us on the bum whilst the club come up with gold nuggets like since some of our kids have not come on as we would have liked a bloke like our ex captain who has "suck leadership qualities" has been rewarded with another two years to oversee the on field development of the new breed of kids that will be listed circa 2018-19.

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