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Brownlow 2014 thread [merged]
« on: July 17, 2014, 04:08:41 AM »
Your club's best bet for the Brownlow
Nathan Schmook
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16th July 2014


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Leader: Trent Cotchin has polled the most votes for Richmond in each of the past three seasons, and he is unlikely to be headed in 2014. The skipper, who has polled a total of 60 votes in the past three Brownlow Medal counts, was at the forefront of the Tigers' early wins this season, lifting when it mattered against the Blues in round two and the Lions in round five. Lock in three votes now for his 31 possessions and five goals against the Saints in round 15.

Roughy: Like he did in 2013 and 2011, Dustin Martin is the most likely to tail Cotchin, but a true 'roughy' would be Brandon Ellis. The midfielder has been prolific since round six, averaging 29 possessions and racking up more than 30 on five occasions. The 20-year-old has polled five career votes but is well set to add to this total.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-16/brownlow-best-bet
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Re: Your club's best bet for the Brownlow (afl site)
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2014, 12:41:44 PM »
The RFC website is pumping up Cotch and Dusty's Brownlow chances ...

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-22/star-tiger-duos-brownlow-bid

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Re: Your club's best bet for the Brownlow (afl site)
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2014, 11:20:23 PM »
Stating the obvious but Garry Lyon tonight reckons Cotchin is a strong Brownlow chance and will pick up a fair few votes over our 7 win streak. Ablett and Pendlebury both gone for the season and Fyfe ineligible, the Brownlow is wide open this year.

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Re: Your club's best bet for the Brownlow (afl site)
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2014, 11:54:10 PM »
Still thinking Kennedy would get it. But if there was justice I'd like Rance to poll well because he has gone above in beyond in plugging holes in our backline

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Re: Your club's best bet for the Brownlow (afl site)
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2014, 06:20:41 AM »
Rance has missed too many.

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Re: Your club's best bet for the Brownlow (afl site)
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2014, 09:06:08 AM »
reckon the big Duzza will give Cotch a run

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Re: Your club's best bet for the Brownlow (afl site)
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2014, 02:14:00 PM »
Rance has missed too many.

True but I hope they give him the 3 points against Sydney. He was insanely good that night.


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Re: Brownlow 2014 thread [merged]
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2014, 03:03:59 AM »
Brownlow Medal bolters

  Will Brodie
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    August 22, 2014



There are rules which usually apply when trying to identify the winner of the Brownlow Medal.

The medal-winner plays every round, polls in at least 10 games, plays for a team that makes the finals, and records three votes as best player on the ground at least six times. He is not necessarily the short favourite, but is well in the market. He has polled well before. And he is a midfielder.

This season shapes as an exception, on a number of counts.

Many of the perennial contenders have been less consistent than in previous campaigns, and dual winner Gary Ablett remains a chance to win despite being sidelined by injury since round 16. No player has won the game's highest individual honour when missing more than four games, but some pundits believe he was on 24 votes when he departed the scene, and that may be enough.

It may not be the 'midfielders medal' in 2014. Swans forward Lance Franklin, with another couple of big performances, may become the first non-onballer in a generation to take home Charlie. He gets a lot of the ball and his best games are undeniably three-vote efforts.

And then there is the prospect of most interest to poor fans everywhere: A roughie might get up.

Two weeks ago, Dyson Heppell and Matt Priddis were at generous odds. After big games at the weekend, they are in the top 10 picks. There will be other major fluctuations in the weeks to come.

With two rounds to play, there could be many players in contention. Here's our assessment of some of those to consider for an each-way ticket.

DUSTIN MARTIN  Richmond Current odds: $101

Richmond's most consistent player in 2014 is up against vote-hog teammate Trent Cotchin, and may not get due reward for being so good when Richmond was so bad early in the season. He might also struggle to garner enough three-vote games. However, Martin polled 16 votes last year, and he could poll in 13 games. He needs a bit of luck, and a strong finish, but he is a great each-way bet at these odds.


TRENT COTCHIN Richmond $26

Cotchin has not been as consistent as in previous years, when he has proven the apple of the umpires' eyes – he polled 19 votes last year and 26 in 2012 – but he has had many outstanding games guaranteed to win him three votes, especially in Tiger victories. By our reckoning, his current range of possible votes is 17-24. That makes him as good a chance as players at half his odds.


LANCE FRANKLIN Sydney $16

The high-profile dynamo could break the mould of the 'midfielder's medal' because, unlike many star forwards, he wins his own ball up the ground, recording not just marks and goals, but stats worthy of a winger. Franklin's big games this year have been spectacular, and though he may need more votes, he is more likely than many other roughies to produce big three vote games in the final fortnight. We rate him to have a possible current maximum of 20 votes, with a minimum of 15, higher than most other outsiders. Polled 20 votes in 2008 and 2010.

ROBBIE GRAY Port Adelaide $34

The consistent half-forward/midfielder has had an outstanding season, giving himself a chance to poll in 13 games. He has no proven vote-winning form, many of his better efforts have come in losses and he seemingly lacks three-vote opportunities, but if he has emerged on umpire radars, two strong finishing games could make him a shock contender.

LUKE PARKER Sydney $101

Parker is a genuine roughie, who would probably need two BOGs to contend, but his consistent ball-winning makes him a contender for votes in 12 games. He has gone to a new level in 2014 in a breakout season that includes a couple of gilt-edged best-on-ground performances.

KIEREN JACK Sydney $151

At first glance, Jack's 2014 has not been at the level of his previous two seasons. But he could poll in nine games, and his projected highest possible votes won at this point is 20. Don't forget that Josh Kennedy was favoured to win big votes in 2012, and reaped 19 votes, however his chances were stymied by Jack's strong polling (15 votes), a pattern which continued last year when Jack picked up 19 votes. He is the one the umps notice, and at this price, well worth a speculative flutter with spare change.

PATRICK DANGERFIELD Adelaide $31

Dangerfield is another midfield dynamo whose best performances catch the umpires' eyes – in the past two seasons he was right in contention on the back of five best-on-ground counts. He have as a chance to poll in ten games, with three clear best-on-ground performances so far. Our guess he will need a low-scoring count, but two big games would see his odds sliced dramatically.

BRYCE GIBBS Carlton $101

The oft-maligned midfielder has embarrassed the critics with a superb 2014, leading the Blues onballers when his team was struggling, and starring in several wins when they began improving. He would have to nab best on ground status in each of his four biggest games, a tall order, given two were in narrow losses, but he fits the profile of a contender, having ten chances to poll.

JORDAN LEWIS Hawthorn $31

By our reckoning, Lewis will need two best on ground performances in his final two games to become a winning chance. He is not a proven vote-winner, having never polled in double figures, and he polled only only four votes in 2013. We rate him as a chance for three votes in only three games. And we feel that he will have only one to four votes before his supercharged run starts at round 12. So where will all the Hawk votes go? It has been a team effort in 2014. Jarryd Roughead, Luke Hodge, Jack Gunston, Sam Mitchell, Luke Breust and Shaun Burgoyne have had all had several outstanding games.

TRAVIS BOAK Port Adelaide $21

The Port Adelaide captain might be a little too far off the pace, having recorded three best-on-ground results during the Port's stellar first half of the season, and none since. We don't rate him as good a chance as some punters and have him on a current highest possible total of 16 votes. But he is a proven vote-winner and there are 11 games in which he is a chance to poll. Umpires might consider the tough distributor first amongst equals in the talented Port midfield.

SCOTT THOMPSON Adelaide $101

Ultra-consistent, perennial vote-hog who has again been a permanent placegetter on the Crows' best players lists. He could poll in nine games in a rich vein of form between rounds four and 15, but he has missed rounds 20 and 21 through injury. Returning for the final two games and could be worth a place ticket. Polled in 11 games on his way to 25 votes in 2012.

DAYNE BEAMS Collingwood $34

Beams was having as good a year as feted teammate Scott Pendlebury ($13), but his knee injury in round 21 will rule him out as a Brownlow Medal chance. A strong performance in the last three rounds would have had him right in the mix, for he is a chance to poll in ten games, a chance for best on ground in four, and we have him on a maximum of 19 votes when his season was cut short. Keep him in mind for next year and don't forget his 19 votes in 2012.

MICHAEL BARLOW Fremantle $81

The former mature-age recruit is scrutinised by Brownlow-watchers because of his extraordinary debut season in 2010, when he polled 12 votes in 13 games. He backed that with 14 votes last year. Barlow is right on the cusp of contention, with a possible maximum 18 votes and nine games in which we reckon he could poll. The problem is a four-game injury absence between rounds 3 and seven, and a broken thumb which will keep him out of the final two rounds. We think only G. Ablett can miss that many games and remain a winning chance.

BRAD EBERT Port Adelaide $101

Tough, ball-winning midfielder who started to capture attention of umpires in 2014 (11 votes). He would have been a short favourite if he continued his early season form, where he was in the best three Port Adelaide players for five straight weeks. His second half of the year has mirrored that of his team, with only one or two showings as impressive. With five possible chances for best on ground status, and the chance to poll in ten games, he remains a legitimate place chance.


THE DETAILS

H: Highest estimated current votes (after round 21)
L: Lowest estimated current votes (after round 21)
CP: Number of games player can poll in
TC: Number of chances for three vote games
Final line indicates rounds in which player may poll. * denotes possible three-vote game[/b]

LANCE FRANKLIN Sydney $16
H: 20, L: 15 CP: 7. TC: 5
Previous best: 2008, 2010: 20

3*, 9*, 13*, 14, 15*, 17*, 21

JORDAN LEWIS Hawthorn $31
H: 18, L: 11 CP: 10. TC: 3
Previous best: 2008: 9

3, 9, 10, 12, 15, 17, 18*, 19, 20*, 21*

TRAVIS BOAK Port Adelaide $21
H: 16, L: 11 CP: 11 TC: 4.
Previous best: 2013: 13; 2010: 16

1, 3, 4* 6* 8, 10*, 11, 14, 15, 17* 20, 21.

TRENT COTCHIN Richmond $26
H: 24, L: 17, CP: 11. TC: 5.
Previous best: 2013: 19; 2012 26; 2011: 15

1, 2*, 3, 6*, 14, 15*, 16, 17, 19*, 20, 21*


PATRICK DANGERFIELD Adelaide $31
H: 18, L: 11. CP: 10. TC: 3
Previous best: 2013: 22; 2012: 23.

2, 5*, 6, 7, 9*, 10, 11, 15, 17, 18*

ROBBIE GRAY Port Adelaide $34
H: 23 L: 10 CP: 13. TC: 2
Previous best: 2009, 2011: 6

3, 5*, 6, 7, 8, 11*, 12*, 14, 15, 16, 18, 20, 21

DAYNE BEAMS Collingwood $34
H: 19 L: 16 CP: 0. TC: 4
Previous best: 2012: 19

2, 4*, 6, 7, 10*, 11*, 15, 16, 18, 19*

MICHAEL BARLOW Fremantle $81
H: 18 L: 9 CP: 9. TC: 4
Previous best: 2013: 14; 2011 12

2*, 9, 11, 13, 14*, 16*, 19, 20*, 21

BRAD EBERT Port Adelaide $101
H: 22 L: 14 CP: 10. TC: 5
Previous best: 2013: 11

2, 3, 4*, 5*, 6*, 10*, 12, 13*, 18, 20

SCOTT THOMPSON Adelaide $101
H: 22  L: 13 CP: 10 TC: 4
Previous best: 2012: 25; 2011: 12; 2010: 15; 2009: 11; 2008: 15; 2007: 18

4*, 5*, 6, 7, 9, 10*, 11, 13, 14*, 15

BRYCE GIBBS Carlton $101
H: 22 L: 11 CP: 10 TC: 4
Previous best: 2011: 12; 2009: 15

5*, 6, 8*, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18*, 20, 21*

LUKE PARKER Sydney $101
H:19, L: 7 CP: 12. TC: 3
Previous best: 4, 2012. 0 in 2013.

1, 3*, 5, 8, 9, 12, 14, 16*, 17, 19*, 20, 21

DUSTIN MARTIN  Richmond $101
H 23 L 12 CP 13. TC 1
Previous best: 2013: 16 votes

2, 4, 6, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18*


KIEREN JACK Sydney $151
HP: 20 LP: 11 CP: 9. TC: 1
Previous best: 19 in 2013; 15 in 2012.

5, 7, 9, 13, 14, 15*, 17, 20, 21



THE MIDFIELDER'S MEDAL: Odds for the last ten years

2004 – Chris Judd $5
2005 – Ben Cousins $2.10 (FAV)
2006 – Adam Goodes $2.70 (FAV)
2007 – Jimmy Bartel $10
2008 – Adam Cooney $13
2009 – Gary Ablett $3 (FAV)
2010 - Chris Judd $7
2011 - Dane Swan $15
2012 – Jobe Watson $5
2013 – Gary Ablett $1.80 (FAV)

Shane Crawford was $1.50 in 1999 shortest priced winner ever

Paul Kelly in 1993 was over 20-1.

MOST BROWNLOW VOTES WITHOUT ABLETT MARKET IN JULY

Scott Pendlebury (Coll) – $3.25
Nathan Fyfe (Fre) – $3.50
Josh Kennedy (Syd) – $4.50
Joel Selwood (Gee) – $10
Brent Harvey (Nth) – $14
Travis Boak (Port) – $14
Dustin Martin (Rich) – $16
Scott Thompson (Ade) – $16
Trent Cotchin (Rich) – $16
Tom Rockliff (Bris) – $16
Matthew Priddis (WC) – $21
Lance Franklin (Syd) – $21
Dayne Beams (Coll) – $21

- Sportingbet

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/brownlow-medal/brownlow-medal-bolters-20140821-1065en.html

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Re: Brownlow 2014 thread [merged]
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2014, 02:35:14 PM »
The Brownlow predictor on the AFL website is tipping the leading Tiger (Cotchin) to only get 13 votes.

Cotchin   13 ....... (3 votes - r2, r5, r15; 2 votes - r21; 1 vote - r1, r16)
Deledio    12 ....... (3 votes - r18, r19, r21; 1 vote - r10, r15, r22)
Riewoldt   8 ........ (3 votes - r10, r22; 2 votes - r5)
Rance      7 ........ (3 votes - r16; 2 votes - r17; 1 vote - r7, r19)
Miles        7 ....... (3 votes - r17; 2 votes - r20, r22)
Martin      7 ....... (2 votes - r10, r14, r18; 1 vote - r12)
Ellis         6 ....... (2 votes - r15, r19; 1 vote - r2, r20)
Vickery    2 ....... (2 votes - r16)

http://www.afl.com.au/brownlow-medal/predictor

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Re: Brownlow 2014 thread [merged]
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2014, 02:36:45 PM »
Chimps 2nd Charlie


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Re: Brownlow 2014 thread [merged]
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2014, 12:13:31 PM »
The updated Brownlow predictor on the AFL website is tipping Lids to be the Tiger with the most votes.

Deledio    15 ....... (3 votes - r18, r19, r21, r23; 1 vote - r10, r15, r22)
Cotchin   13 ....... (3 votes - r2, r5, r15; 2 votes - r21; 1 vote - r1, r16)
Rance      9 ........ (3 votes - r16; 2 votes - r17; 2 votes - r23; 1 vote - r7, r19)
Riewoldt   8 ........ (3 votes - r10, r22; 2 votes - r5)
Miles        7 ....... (3 votes - r17; 2 votes - r20, r22)
Martin      7 ....... (2 votes - r10, r14, r18; 1 vote - r12)
Ellis         6 ....... (2 votes - r15, r19; 1 vote - r2, r20)
Vickery    2 ....... (2 votes - r16)
Maric      1 ....... (1 vote - r23)


ps. They have Selwood winning it with 23 votes.

http://www.afl.com.au/brownlow-medal/predictor

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Re: Brownlow 2014 thread [merged]
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2014, 12:14:26 PM »
Can see lids winning it after not making aa side

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Re: Brownlow 2014 thread [merged]
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2014, 12:45:38 PM »

ps. They have Selwood winning it with 23 votes.

http://www.afl.com.au/brownlow-medal/predictor

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Re: Brownlow 2014 thread [merged]
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2014, 02:16:18 PM »
Richmond

Best chance: Trent Cotchin The skipper is the Tigers' best chance because vice-captain Brett Deledio is ineligible. Cotchin polled 19 votes last season and 26 in 2012. He won't reach those heights, however, and could finish on 13 votes.

Fast starter: Trent Cotchin collected 38 possessions in round one and backed that up with a best-on-ground performance the next week. The wins soon dried up for Richmond and so would the votes for the star midfielder.

One-vote wonder: David Astbury The tall defender's season was ended by injury after round nine, but not before he established himself as one of the Tigers' most improved players. Among the Tigers' best in the round two win over Carlton, a vote would please all at Tigerland.     

Total votes: A miserable first half of the season won't net many votes, but the Tigers came home with a wet sail and will earn plenty after round 14 for a predicted total of 68. – Nathan Schmook

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-17/the-chase-for-chas

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Re: Brownlow 2014 thread [merged]
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2014, 05:40:18 PM »
Surely this year Dusty would be the favourite to poll the most for RFC?