VFL: Richmond vs Port Melbourne, Sat. July 26 --- Live on ABC TV

[Diocletian]

Ive turned off watching them on TV there is not alot of talent coming through our reserves unfortunately. The reserves need a revamp hopefully we draft 5 or 6 kids and that helps the situation.

Ramps please look at both our coaches for a start as the reason

I don't blame these blokes for throwing the towel in when they see our other superstars getting gigs ahead of them

It's farcical that Clarke still has a job. I mean if you take dimmas words that no players are coming through the ranks outside the "best" 22 then whose fault is it??????

I've had a gutfull of this club and their 9th poo

There is some talent coming through - unfortunately they seem to turn in shockers whenever they're on tv and all the nupty's who never see them otherwise are suddenly all experts and write them off.

Arnot, McBean, Darrou, McDonough & Lennon will all be good players. Griffiths could be. McIntosh & Williams - maybe. O'Hanlon if he wasn't so slow. Dea's ok - I'd certanily play him ahead of Newman at least. Even Banfield, if ever gets his confidence with the ball back, possesses qualities we sorely need.

Stephenson's been our best all year but that's rather a moot point in a discussion about the future.

The others are shyte. Helbig is worst decision maker I've ever seen, with disposal to match. Elton just simply doesn't understand Australian Rules Football. Hamspud -'nuff said. Edwards - just pee off. VFL is Grigg's level.

The main culprits however are the VFL listed players - with the exception of Contin - who's been injured most of the year and perhaps Wall and Luke Conca on occassion, they are all absolutely stuffing shocking - park footballers.

[WilliamPowell]

So it appears I don't miss much... Watched the first qtr before falling asleep in front of the box

On the advantages of coming home on the "red-eye"... Falling asleep in the afternoon 

[one-eyed]

From the RFC website:

Grigg    30 disposals, 9 clearances, 8 tackles & a goal.

Lennon 27 disposals & 5 In50s

Griffiths 10 marks & a goal.

McBean 2 goals

Nick Wynne 23 disposals.


RICHMOND      3.2      4.2      6.2       8.7 (55)
PORT MELB.     2.2     5.11     10.17     13.19 (97)

Goals: McBean 2, McDonough 2, Arnot, Griffiths, Knights, Grigg
Best: Grigg, Lennon, Wynne, Griffiths, A. Edwards

Read more: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-26/grigg-a-standout-in-vfl-return-

[Diocletian]

Grigg , Wynne & Edwards in the bests...obviously just counting stats with the first two and Geez knows what in Edward's case.

[Francois Jackson]

Play Lennon u idiots stuff grigg

[Gigantor]

what did folks think of Ohanlons game?i only saw the game on TV but once again I barely noticed  him

[Jackstar is back!!!]

what did folks think of Ohanlons game?i only saw the game on TV but once again I barely noticed  him

I didn't

[Rampstar]

Ive turned off watching them on TV there is not alot of talent coming through our reserves unfortunately. The reserves need a revamp hopefully we draft 5 or 6 kids and that helps the situation.

Ramps please look at both our coaches for a start as the reason

I don't blame these blokes for throwing the towel in when they see our other superstars getting gigs ahead of them

It's farcical that Clarke still has a job. I mean if you take dimmas words that no players are coming through the ranks outside the "best" 22 then whose fault is it??????

I've had a gutfull of this club and their 9th poo

There is some talent coming through - unfortunately they seem to turn in shockers whenever they're on tv and all the nupty's who never see them otherwise are suddenly all experts and write them off.

Arnot, McBean, Darrou, McDonough & Lennon will all be good players. Griffiths could be. McIntosh & Williams - maybe. O'Hanlon if he wasn't so slow. Dea's ok - I'd certanily play him ahead of Newman at least. Even Banfield, if ever gets his confidence with the ball back, possesses qualities we sorely need.

Arnot cant kick, McBean isnt fit and hasnt developed as much as Id hoped he would, McDonough is slow and Lennon is a kid with talent but also someone who in his early games has shown some indecisiveness when it comes to the contest. Darrou is slow as treakle and wont make it, I had high hopes for McIntosh but still seems a long way off. O'Hanlon is also too slow for AFL Footy. Theres not much there if we are being truthful.

[tony_montana]

Ive turned off watching them on TV there is not alot of talent coming through our reserves unfortunately. The reserves need a revamp hopefully we draft 5 or 6 kids and that helps the situation.

Ramps please look at both our coaches for a start as the reason

I don't blame these blokes for throwing the towel in when they see our other superstars getting gigs ahead of them

It's farcical that Clarke still has a job. I mean if you take dimmas words that no players are coming through the ranks outside the "best" 22 then whose fault is it??????

I've had a gutfull of this club and their 9th poo

There is some talent coming through - unfortunately they seem to turn in shockers whenever they're on tv and all the nupty's who never see them otherwise are suddenly all experts and write them off.

Arnot, McBean, Darrou, McDonough & Lennon will all be good players. Griffiths could be. McIntosh & Williams - maybe. O'Hanlon if he wasn't so slow. Dea's ok - I'd certanily play him ahead of Newman at least. Even Banfield, if ever gets his confidence with the ball back, possesses qualities we sorely need.

Arnot cant kick, McBean isnt fit and hasnt developed as much as Id hoped he would, McDonough is slow and Lennon is a kid with talent but also someone who in his early games has shown some indecisiveness when it comes to the contest. Darrou is slow as treakle and wont make it, I had high hopes for McIntosh but still seems a long way off. O'Hanlon is also too slow for AFL Footy. Theres not much there if we are being truthful.

sorry ramps I agree with a lot of your work, but Arnott not being able to kick is a myth, is a very good kick and has vision too.

McDonough aint slow either

[Diocletian]

Ive turned off watching them on TV there is not alot of talent coming through our reserves unfortunately. The reserves need a revamp hopefully we draft 5 or 6 kids and that helps the situation.

Ramps please look at both our coaches for a start as the reason

I don't blame these blokes for throwing the towel in when they see our other superstars getting gigs ahead of them

It's farcical that Clarke still has a job. I mean if you take dimmas words that no players are coming through the ranks outside the "best" 22 then whose fault is it??????

I've had a gutfull of this club and their 9th poo

There is some talent coming through - unfortunately they seem to turn in shockers whenever they're on tv and all the nupty's who never see them otherwise are suddenly all experts and write them off.

Arnot, McBean, Darrou, McDonough & Lennon will all be good players. Griffiths could be. McIntosh & Williams - maybe. O'Hanlon if he wasn't so slow. Dea's ok - I'd certanily play him ahead of Newman at least. Even Banfield, if ever gets his confidence with the ball back, possesses qualities we sorely need.

Arnot cant kick, McBean isnt fit and hasnt developed as much as Id hoped he would, McDonough is slow and Lennon is a kid with talent but also someone who in his early games has shown some indecisiveness when it comes to the contest. Darrou is slow as treakle and wont make it, I had high hopes for McIntosh but still seems a long way off. O'Hanlon is also too slow for AFL Footy. Theres not much there if we are being truthful.

Arnot can kick, McBean spent half the pre-season in a moon boot and has missed 4 matches, yet is still our leading goalkicker and has started to add contested marking to his game, Lennon's in his first year, had injury and played most of the season out of position, McDonough would be in the average pace bracket, Darrou ain't quick but definitely not "slow as treacle" and, if we're to compare him to a similar sized player who played a similar role, is certainly quicker and smarter than Kelvin Moore ever was.

[the claw]

17 AFL Tigers in the starting VFL side this week.

Richmond VFL team

B: Elton, Darrou, Dea

HB: Lennon, Griffiths, McDonough

C: O'Hanlon, Knights, Young

HF: Banfield, McBean, Williams

F: Arnot, Hampson, A.Edwards

R: Stephenson, Helbig, Grigg

Int (from): Waite, Wall, Wynne, McGough, Conca, Bathie, Drummond (23rd man), Barlow, Clay




nb: A friend or family member of a Richmond member will be able to gain access to the ground for free.
Gates open at midday
Food and drink available
Jack Dyer Stand open

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-24/vfl-returns-to-me-bank-centre

took one look at this side and  straight away thought where the hell are the mids coming thru.so few no wonder they cant win games with both the number and quality of those mids.
afl listed mids
helbig - will be cut at end of yr. cant keep on waiting forever.
grigg - hes playing down where he should would not hesitate to cut this glass half empty.
knights - would give a one yr contract in the hope he can have a clear run with injury. thing is at afl is he a mid or more a fwd.
young - imohes a decent supplementary player.
williams - a rookie who is likely to be cut imo has had injury concerns.
arnot - inside mid who is greatly overrated by most. ordinary at best imo.
then theres the flankers who can play thru the middle
mcdonough - still dont get the love for this bloke.
lennon - another i dont rate. i still dont think hes a mid.
look at the list so few and absolutely lacking in quality.
will say again no wonder they struggle with so few mids. trouble is we have other needs just as pressing with our rucks,and tall fwds and defenders.

[one-eyed]

VIDEO: Match 'highlights' from the weekend's loss to Port Melbourne.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-07-28/vfl-highlights-round-16

[unplugged]

Was a shocking game of football.  Stoppages, Clearance, Center Breaks.  Totally smashed.  Edwards competed at a center bounce at one point.  Laughable.  Played so many talls.  Someone on the broadcast commented that we had to.  Why? Half of them were VFL listed players. 

Tim Clarks coaching performance was abominable.  Could not get the basics right.  This is a guy who had Miles in the reserves for half a season and still couldn't get the team into the finals. Thrashed with 17 AFL listed players.  Average losing margin 54 points.  Should pack his bags with Hardwick.

The Good.

Arnot.  Was he tagging in the first?  Didn't play ruck rover.  Forward pocket.  Why?
Midfield was smashed at the contest and we had this guy off the ball for most of the match.  He did a beautiful 50m kick up the wing to a teammates chest.  Kicked a great goal from outside 50.  Split the middle.  No problems with his kicking.   Was one of few players to show an appetite for the contest and battle when he didn't have the ball. Get the impression the coaching department are trying to kill off his career or turn him into something he is not.  We need an in and under midfielder to help out Miles.  No one else on the list fits that bill.

Lennon. Good skills.  Still a kid.

McDonough.  Donuts is still young but doesn't show anything remarkable.  Definitely not a midfielder.  Good kick but not quick enough for his size.

Dea.  Tried hard.  Better than VFL level.

The Bad.

Hampson.  First half was ok.  Disappeared second half.  Fitness?  Injured?  Hard to do nothing for a half.
Grigg. Soft and physically weak even at vfl level.
Griffiths.  Has improved to a VFL standard player.  Cant measure his kicks.
McBean.  Stick insect.  Last quarter goal effort.  Not good enough.
Knights.  Second to the ball a lot. Struggled at VFL level.

The Ugly
Ohanlon.  Super ordinary footballer.
Elton.  Not reserve level.
Banfield.  Terrible.
Stephenson.  Don't know why anyone rates him.  Slow and non competitive.  Not physical for such a big guy.
Edwards.  No impact.  Fumbler.  Slow.  Outside.
Hellbig.  Looks physically weak at vfl level.  No pace.
Darou.  Slow.  No impact.  Big guy - no physicality.

[Chuck17]

From the RFC website:

Grigg    30 disposals, 9 clearances, 8 tackles & a goal.

Lennon 27 disposals & 5 In50s

Griffiths 10 marks & a goal.

McBean 2 goals

Nick Wynne 23 disposals.


RICHMOND      3.2      4.2      6.2       8.7 (55)
PORT MELB.     2.2     5.11     10.17     13.19 (97)

Goals: McBean 2, McDonough 2, Arnot, Griffiths, Knights, Grigg
Best: Grigg, Lennon, Wynne, Griffiths, A. Edwards

Read more: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-26/grigg-a-standout-in-vfl-return-

FFS Grigg has to come back in the side straight away, is clearly a cut above VFL

[Chuck17]

The Bad.

Hampson.  First half was ok.  Disappeared second half.  Fitness?  Injured?  Hard to do nothing for a half.
Grigg. Soft and physically weak even at vfl level.
Griffiths.  Has improved to a VFL standard player.  Cant measure his kicks.
McBean.  Stick insect.  Last quarter goal effort.  Not good enough.
Knights.  Second to the ball a lot. Struggled at VFL level.

Was there two griggs playing?