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The thing is today wasn't really a surprise
« on: July 31, 2005, 06:17:53 PM »
I told a Carlton supporting mate on Friday who said we'd win by 70 points that if the Blues were going to win a game this year it would be against us. No Brown, Gas or Kellaway so we were weaker while Carlton were at full strength with Fevola back in compared to earlier on in the year. Plus Richmond's past decade history of being complacent against weaker sides at this time of year.

The guys were warned all week (someone on BF said our training was very sloppy) and we had Friday and Saturday of upsets to other sides to warn us further still. Yet we didn't turn up and once again gave the opposition a start that boosted their confidence :banghead.  Same old same old  >:(.

A 120 point turnaround in just 3 months  :banghead.
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Re: The thing is today wasn't really a surprise
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2005, 06:45:23 PM »
Not a surprise but just so, so disappointing.

 :'( :'( :'( @ Cambo coming off in the last quarter and holding his head in his hands, realising he'll never play another final again. He was one of the few blokes that cared today.


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Re: The thing is today wasn't really a surprise
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2005, 06:49:09 PM »
Yeah John.

End of is era.

Sad.

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Re: The thing is today wasn't really a surprise
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2005, 08:17:24 PM »
After watching us for many years just miss out on the finals, we are just as likely to come out and beat Freo and the Dogs then go down to the Hawks and the Cats and finish 9th.

We are destined for 9th, i can feel it

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Re: The thing is today wasn't really a surprise
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2005, 08:50:26 PM »
one has to be aware so they dont play a game without respecting the opposition, but something tells me we will lose every game from here on in and finish below 10th, which for the long term i think we will better off, the last thing we want is to finish ahead of our ability

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Re: The thing is today wasn't really a surprise
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2005, 10:34:01 PM »
Not a surprise but just so, so disappointing.

Absolutely JohnF.

I said to the guys I sitting that today was the our biggest danger game of the year. One of the guys said to me "you think Carlton can beat us?" I said "we should beat them but yeah they can beat us because we can lose it". In a way I reckon that says a bit about us as a supporters - we just know  :-\ :'( the disappointment too well

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 :'( :'( :'( @ Cambo coming off in the last quarter and holding his head in his hands, realising he'll never play another final again. He was one of the few blokes that cared today.



Actually I think today's result probably helped Cambo make his final decision - does he really need to go through this sort of heartbreak anymore?

NOPE - doesn't deserve it at all
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Re: The thing is today wasn't really a surprise
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2005, 10:49:44 PM »
Life sux. I knew this was possible but I thought that Richmond of 05 was different from Richmond of 96-04 where we buckled in every cut throat match. I guess i was wrong. Gutless performance. I guess the dream is dead.
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Re: The thing is today wasn't really a surprise
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2005, 11:00:15 PM »
Ahhh forgot to add quote of the year from the Carlton guy behind us:

"Richmond are playing like we have for the past 11 weeks."
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Tigers prove a familiar point (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2005, 02:46:28 AM »
Tigers prove a familiar point
01 August 2005   
Herald Sun
Mark Robinson

THERE is much new about Richmond, but at the same time something familiar.

From a blazing 7-2, the Tigers have gone 2-7 and sit in 10th spot, a common enough theme in recent years.

Yesterday, as in most years in the new millennium, the Tigers were faced with a game they dearly had to win.

Tigers v Blues. Big crowd. Finals at stake. That they didn't is not really a surprise.

Indeed, the day they win one of these "must-win" games at the business end will be surprise enough. At least then we'll know for certain the Tigers can be judged as fair dinkum.

The last time these two teams met it was an emphatic 85-point win for the Tigers. Yesterday it was 35 to the Blues.

Despite Richo being KO'd, their best defender Darren Gaspar and best midfield stopper Mark Chaffey not playing, and Andrew Kellaway injured, this was not good enough.

With finals the lure, and the Blues having lost 11 in a row, the Tigers somehow lacked energy and mental willingness.

And this after coach Terry Wallace had written on the whiteboard before the game words to the effect of: DON'T LET THE CARLTON FOOTBALL CLUB STOP US FROM HAVING AN EXCITING MONTH.

He hammered the point. He spoke to every player in the meeting and told them they had a point to prove. From veterans trying to save their careers, to the kids proving they can cut it, to players with leadership aspirations.

By game's end, Wallace knew his team had blown an opportunity. Now Saturday night's match against Fremantle is virtually a season-decider.

Wallace said post-match he wasn't angry, but he was in the rooms before Brendan Fevola had kicked his goal after the siren.

The players were then marched back from whence they came two hours earlier, this time Wallace openly and honestly determining if, in fact, points were proved.

They were mixed. The kids were good again. Brett Deledio, Richard Tambling, Chris Hyde and Kelvin Moore presented, while Will Thursfield was accountable but was shown up by a red-hot Jarrad Waite.

Others were so-so, while others again continued to help design their own coffins.

Wallace played down the 20-minute review, but not his view on where his club stood.

"I went through each player and spoke about his performance in the game and I thought there was common thread and that was basically the younger boys did their job," Wallace said.

"It was some of the other boys in the side who didn't play at levels which they expect to.

"We are like every club in the competition; we've got guys there who are fighting for survival, fighting for their positions.

"As I said to them, I know we've got a few blokes out, but still we expect blokes to do their job."

Wallace's "long-haul" speech is monotonous, yet realistic.

The Tigers are better than last year, certainly better than their three previous years, but the list transition will continue.

Decisions will be made on Greg Tivendale and Greg Stafford, even Mark Graham, who has proved to be more than adequate after switching from Hawthorn.

Wallace also may lash at a trade – Ray Hall, Brent Hartigan perhaps – and in spite of his praising, surely not all the kids are up to it.

"We understand where we're at," he said. "We'll accept wherever we finish. If that's inside the eight that's fine; if we finish outside that's disappointing, but we are a developing team."

Developing team. There's that familiarity again.

One day the Tigers will surprise us. But after yesterday, it looks more than likely it's not going to be this year.

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Re: The thing is today wasn't really a surprise
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2005, 09:40:03 PM »
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Actually I think today's result probably helped Cambo make his final decision - does he really need to go through this sort of heartbreak anymore?

NOPE - doesn't deserve it at all

Good call WP. Cambo meets Plough tomorrow to decide his playing future. He looked devastated yesterday. Will definitely retire. Most likely in a couple of weeks time, either against the Hawks or the Bulldogs.

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Re: The thing is today wasn't really a surprise
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2005, 01:36:05 AM »
Agree you guys that Cambo will retire. If he was going to go on he would have waited until he got through the season unscathed to make an announcement.

Farewell Cambo. It would be a nice touch if the rest of the boys lifted for him for his final 4 games but his time at Tigerland has been one of team disappoints rather than fairytale endings  :(.
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Re: The thing is today wasn't really a surprise
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2005, 06:49:20 PM »
No FF (Gas), CHB (AK), Ff (Brown), CHF (Richo), always going to be stuff.

Still, no excuse for our midfeild to be shate apon  >:(

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Re: The thing is today wasn't really a surprise
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2005, 06:58:02 PM »

I wont be surprised if Campbell plays on. He's been shrewd at making money out of the club. No surprise if they look to cure their insecurity about how crap the rest of their senior players are by throwing more money at him to play the extra year.

We just keeping making the same mistakes every year, irrespective of who is coaching us

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Re: The thing is today wasn't really a surprise
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2005, 01:09:36 PM »
If Cambo decides to retire then no one should be convincing him not to.  It should be his decision and his alone.

During the off season, a couple or so years ago, Nigel Smart had decided to retire and Adelaide then ‘talked him into’ playing on.  Part way through the season, after an indifferent few games, and I think even some time in the reserves, he officially retired.

When they’ve made up their minds it’s no good trying to convince them otherwise, because their heart’s not really in it any more.  They’ve more than likely already moved on.
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Cambo's future on Plough's Perth agenda (RFC site)
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2005, 03:15:22 PM »
Cambo's future on Plough's Perth agenda
12:54:44 PM Thu 4 August, 2005
Tony Greenberg
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The playing future of former Richmond captain and four-time Jack Dyer Medallist Wayne Campbell will be on the agenda for coach Terry Wallace during the Tigers' trip to Perth to tackle the Fremantle Dockers in a crucial Round 19 encounter.

Wallace intends using some 'free time' throughout the course of the three-day stay in Perth to talk to the 32-year-old about his plans for 2006.

"You get an opportunity to spend a bit more time together when you get away for a few days like this," Wallace said.

"I would think we'll go and have a coffee, or have a meal together, and have a general conversation about where he wants to go and how he wants it to be . . .

"We really need to have it now for a number of reasons. Firstly, after this weekend we'll only be three weeks away from the end of the home-and-away season. If Wayne's decision is that he doesn't want to go on, well, we want to do things right by him . . . make sure he gets an appropriate send-off.

"If he does want to go on, then it's also a list-management issue. Now is the time that you start honing in on where your playing list is at, and what changes you need to make. Wayne's decision may very well impact on another of the veterans within the structure of the squad.

"All these sort of things need to be put to bed, so we'll have the conversation and work out where it's headed . . .

"Wayne has made his statements about where he sits, and to all intents and purposes, this is it for him. I've taken him on his word and told him where I sit.

"We didn't want to have the conversation too early, however, because you start heading down one path and then something crops up which changes the outlook. We needed to get further into the season to see if he was actually able to get through the year and handle it from an injury perspective.

"But we're nearly there now, so it'll be an interesting conversation . . ."

http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=220133