Scotland referendum

[1965]

Tony A is such an arrogant prick that he now thinks he can tell the Scots what to do FFS.


Tony Abbott tells Scotland a yes vote for independence is 'not in world's interest'

Australian prime minister joins Barack Obama in urging Scots not to break up the United Kingdom on 18 September

Press Association

An independent Scotland would not be in the best interests of the international community, Australia’s prime minister has warned.

After a long-running referendum campaign featuring live television debates, leaflet drops and doorstepping, Scots will finally get to answer the question, “Should Scotland be an independent country?” on September 18.

Tony Abbott became the latest international leader to wade into the debate after US president Barack Obama said his administration had a “deep interest” in ensuring the United Kingdom remained united.

Mr Abbott, who spent two years at the University of Oxford, told the Times: “What the Scots do is a matter for the Scots and not for a moment do I presume to tell Scottish voters which way they should vote.

“But as a friend of Britain, as an observer from afar, it’s hard to see how the world would be helped by an independent Scotland.

“I think that the people who would like to see the break-up of the United Kingdom are not the friends of justice, not the friends of freedom, and that the countries that would cheer at the prospect of the break-up with the United Kingdom are not the countries whose company one would like to keep.”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/16/tony-abbott-tells-scotland-a-yes-vote-for-independence-is-not-in-worlds-interest

[Smokey]

Tony A is such an arrogant prick that he now thinks he can tell the Scots what to do FFS.


Tony Abbott tells Scotland a yes vote for independence is 'not in world's interest'

Australian prime minister joins Barack Obama in urging Scots not to break up the United Kingdom on 18 September

Press Association

An independent Scotland would not be in the best interests of the international community, Australia’s prime minister has warned.

After a long-running referendum campaign featuring live television debates, leaflet drops and doorstepping, Scots will finally get to answer the question, “Should Scotland be an independent country?” on September 18.

Tony Abbott became the latest international leader to wade into the debate after US president Barack Obama said his administration had a “deep interest” in ensuring the United Kingdom remained united.

Mr Abbott, who spent two years at the University of Oxford, told the Times: “What the Scots do is a matter for the Scots and not for a moment do I presume to tell Scottish voters which way they should vote.

“But as a friend of Britain, as an observer from afar, it’s hard to see how the world would be helped by an independent Scotland.

“I think that the people who would like to see the break-up of the United Kingdom are not the friends of justice, not the friends of freedom, and that the countries that would cheer at the prospect of the break-up with the United Kingdom are not the countries whose company one would like to keep.”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/16/tony-abbott-tells-scotland-a-yes-vote-for-independence-is-not-in-worlds-interest

Fair dinkum '65, I don't think you've uttered a more FOS statement!   

What part of this:
"What the Scots do is a matter for the Scots and not for a moment do I presume to tell Scottish voters which way they should vote."
 didn't you read or comprehend??

And in the name of all things global CDF what is wrong about these sentiments:

“But as a friend of Britain, as an observer from afar, it’s hard to see how the world would be helped by an independent Scotland.
“I think that the people who would like to see the break-up of the United Kingdom are not the friends of justice, not the friends of freedom, and that the countries that would cheer at the prospect of the break-up with the United Kingdom are not the countries whose company one would like to keep.”

FFS, he's not telling the Scots what to do but he is offering an opinion, just like one of your leftist pinup boys Barack The Slack Obama.

Interested in your thoughts on The Sideshoe Shuffle Grey Man's opinion.

And FWIW, I think he's dead right.  The last thing the modern global western world needs is a splintered Great Britain.

[mightytiges]

Tony A is such an arrogant prick that he now thinks he can tell the Scots what to do FFS.


Tony Abbott tells Scotland a yes vote for independence is 'not in world's interest'

Australian prime minister joins Barack Obama in urging Scots not to break up the United Kingdom on 18 September

Press Association

An independent Scotland would not be in the best interests of the international community, Australia’s prime minister has warned.

After a long-running referendum campaign featuring live television debates, leaflet drops and doorstepping, Scots will finally get to answer the question, “Should Scotland be an independent country?” on September 18.

Tony Abbott became the latest international leader to wade into the debate after US president Barack Obama said his administration had a “deep interest” in ensuring the United Kingdom remained united.

Mr Abbott, who spent two years at the University of Oxford, told the Times: “What the Scots do is a matter for the Scots and not for a moment do I presume to tell Scottish voters which way they should vote.

“But as a friend of Britain, as an observer from afar, it’s hard to see how the world would be helped by an independent Scotland.

“I think that the people who would like to see the break-up of the United Kingdom are not the friends of justice, not the friends of freedom, and that the countries that would cheer at the prospect of the break-up with the United Kingdom are not the countries whose company one would like to keep.”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/16/tony-abbott-tells-scotland-a-yes-vote-for-independence-is-not-in-worlds-interest

Fair dinkum '65, I don't think you've uttered a more FOS statement!   

What part of this:
"What the Scots do is a matter for the Scots and not for a moment do I presume to tell Scottish voters which way they should vote."
 didn't you read or comprehend??

And in the name of all things global CDF what is wrong about these sentiments:

“But as a friend of Britain, as an observer from afar, it’s hard to see how the world would be helped by an independent Scotland.
“I think that the people who would like to see the break-up of the United Kingdom are not the friends of justice, not the friends of freedom, and that the countries that would cheer at the prospect of the break-up with the United Kingdom are not the countries whose company one would like to keep.”

FFS, he's not telling the Scots what to do but he is offering an opinion, just like one of your leftist pinup boys Barack The Slack Obama.

Interested in your thoughts on The Sideshoe Shuffle Grey Man's opinion.

And FWIW, I think he's dead right.  The last thing the modern global western world needs is a splintered Great Britain.

While the referendum will most likely reject Scottish independence (actually it's more home-rule as the Queen will remain head of state of Scotland), it's the Scots' freedom of choice and democratic right to make the choice of independence or not. It probably helps the pro-independence vote when foreign leaders comment on the referendum.

If Abbott had only said he believed Scotland would be better off remaining part of the union and the Westminster parliament (as Obama did) then that would've been fine as an opinion. However, the bulldust from Abbott about those who are pro-independence being "not the friends of justice, not the friends of freedom" is just plain ridiculous and stupid. He is just showing his English-born allegiance . It hasn't done Australia any harm breaking away from Westminster but obviously that point is lost on our dopey PM  .

[one-eyed]

Scotland has voted to remain part of the United Kingdom - 54% to 46%.

Larger cities like Glasgow & Dundee voted for independence but the vast majority of Scotland's 32 local authority areas voted no.

http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/scotlands-independence-vote-result-scotland-to-remain-in-uk-after-no-vote-wins-referendum/story-fnh81p7g-1227064149600

[🏅Dooks]

An unfortunate side effect of increases in life expectancy in the Western world is that there is a majority of the population born in a completely different era of time who hold onto the past rather than embrace the now and create opportunities for the future.

I guess boiled onions never tasted so good.

[Judge Roughneck]

Where were the English nuclear subs gong to go? It'd have to be america

Never was going to get up

[Francois Jackson]

Bloody rigged just like ours was

Bring back turnbill so we can vote again and get rid of em

[Penelope]

conspiracy theories 

[tiga]

conspiracy theories 

al I think most of the ridiculous drivel dished up on here by certain individuals cannot even be classified as conspiracy theories, more like....

[Judge Roughneck]

Has a conspiracy theory ever turned out to be true ?

[tiga]

Has a conspiracy theory ever turned out to be true ?

Ummm Watergate, Tobacco companies deliberately adding chemicals to cigarettes to make them more addictive. there's two to start with

[Judge Roughneck]

The government is reading everyone phone emails - tick

JFK  / operation north wood - tick

Bush we dont torture / obama we torture some folks /G-bay - tick

Goverment mind control expermentation - mkultra - tick

Goverment posioned grog killing peopleduring prohabition / goverment has mass sterialization program forbthe poor - tick

Gulf of tokin
Mocking bird

[Judge Roughneck]

70,000 Nationalists Demand Referendum be Re-Held After Vote Rigging Claims
A petition calling for a second referendum is garnering support from 'Yes' voters
By Tabatha Kinder
September 20, 2014 14:16 BS


A petition demanding the Scottish independence referendum be re-held "because it was rigged" has garnered 70,000 signatures in less than 24 hours.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/scottish-independence-70000-nationalists-demand-referendum-be-re-held-after-vote-rigging-claims-1466416


The petition states: "Countless evidences of fraud during the Scottish Referendum have come to light, including two counts of votes being moved in bulk to a 'No' pile, 'Yes' votes clearly being seen in 'No' piles, and strange occurrences with dual fire alarms, and clear-cut fraud in Glasgow.

"We demand a re-vote be taken of said referendum, where each vote shall be counted by two individuals, one of whom should be an international impartial party without a stake in the vote."

[Judge Roughneck]

conspiracy theories 

..http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/10/01/more-fraud-exposed-in-scottish-election/

Scottish man finds a bag full of “YES” votes in the Scottish Elections that have been trashed. This is just further evidence of election fraud