No BT I wouldn't trade Ellis for pick 5 because I have zero faith in our current cowboy recruiters to find a better player at 5. Adding to that IMV Ellis has improved in each if his years.
Good clubs like hawthorn Sydney don't care for top 5 picks. I say invest in the right areas and find your a graders elsewhere and develop them properly
Personally I think our recruiting in the first round the last 4 years has been very safe. Aiming for solid players, not potential stars, A graders. Guys that will be solid but with not much hope of being out and out stars. Conca over Heppel is a good example IMO. A skinny kid with long stupid hair or a kid that will have a go. The bigger risk was Heppel. But so was the reward.
Conca, Ellis and Vlastuin are all to similar too.
That's why I would swap pick 5 for Ellis in a heart beat
im sorry while i agree with the sentiment i disagree with the way its put if you like.
heppell was always a top 5 pick. and conca was never a top 10 pick. i still cant work out how he slippd .fantastic record against his peers and the attributes was there for all to see. nd he had a good work ethic. being on the skinny side should have said upside nbut not with francis. heppell was not a risk we got it wrong plain and simple he should have been considered a monty. if anything conca was the greater risk. in fact he was a reach with the pick we used to get him. but we placed too much emphasis on him being a good guy.
as for vlastuin well again he was clearly a top 10 pick i thought top 5. for what ever reason and it had nothing to do with performance he slipped. imo he was best available with the exception of grundy who i thought was the 2nd best tall in the draft and met a far greater list need.
ellis well im with you on him i dont get all the love. i see a very deficient player who just happens to be able to find a lot of ball. yes they went safety first as far as having a good atttude goes.
mate im over this nonsense about picking blokes with the right mental attributes. that was the conca pick the ellis pick but not vlastuin.we overlooked all the good attributes that made heppell safe because they prioritised a good attitude over all else.at richmond we deal in extremes.get bitten by a bad apple with a few mid range picks and take attitude to the nth degree,
bloody hell fj has got so much wrong and its basic things.
