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Re: Corey Ellis [merged]
« Reply #390 on: April 28, 2016, 09:21:26 PM »
Need to keep getting games into him.
He hasn't been that bad I wouldn't have thought.
Get him to 50 games and he will repay the patience.
Play him across the centre line.
Let's see what he can do.

Play Lennon, play Rioli, play Menadue- get games into them.
Disagree he looks shot if we had a good development program he would not be playing seniors.
Most of the juniors we have played have struggled, why is that ?.  Giving them needed experience is one thing, flogging them to death is another.
How are we "flogging him to death"
It's footy Claw. Give the kid a run in the middle and free him up. He is never going to be a HBF.
He is not physically ready for an inside role  tone. he is way too slow for an outside role.  I agree play him in the middle but in the twos. We are killing this kid playing him in roles he cant perform at afl level.Very little ball he is physically  not up to it and is relying on scraps. Cmon mate you more than most understand the need to match up physical attributes to the role needed.

We dont need to play this kid at this stage yeah give him some games but let him develop and dominate in the twos where he physically has the best chance to compete.
You know what when he starts having 25 30 plus disposals in the twos and a third of them are contested then you will know he is ripe. he ius just not physically capable of playing to his strengths at afl atm

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Re: Corey Ellis [merged]
« Reply #391 on: April 28, 2016, 09:22:44 PM »
It sounds like a good idea to just give him a run in the middle. However the kid has to compete! He like Menedue at times are just spectating the contest. Hanging back and not winning contested ball. At AFL level we cant aford that and are getting smashed because of these two kids. Add to this unfortunately the 3 mature mids we have recruited to help in the middle are not up to it. Moore, Townsend and Macron are not even close to AFL standard.

We are in for lean year!

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Re: Corey Ellis [merged]
« Reply #392 on: April 28, 2016, 09:27:22 PM »
It sounds like a good idea to just give him a run in the middle. However the kid has to compete! He like Menedue at times are just spectating the contest. Hanging back and not winning contested ball. At AFL level we cant aford that and are getting smashed because of these two kids. Add to this unfortunately the 3 mature mids we have recruited to help in the middle are not up to it. Moore, Townsend and Macron are not even close to AFL standard.

We are in for lean year!

One of the problems is grigg and Houli often do the same thing. Yet they are not young, promising players, they are old hacks. Chaplin is good at it too. It's not just c Ellis and Menadue

Then you hve Townsend and Morris that have nfi

Makes it hard for Cotchin and miles types
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Re: Corey Ellis [merged]
« Reply #393 on: April 28, 2016, 10:18:54 PM »
Need to keep getting games into him.
He hasn't been that bad I wouldn't have thought.
Get him to 50 games and he will repay the patience.
Play him across the centre line.
Let's see what he can do.

Play Lennon, play Rioli, play Menadue- get games into them.
Disagree he looks shot if we had a good development program he would not be playing seniors.
Most of the juniors we have played have struggled, why is that ?.  Giving them needed experience is one thing, flogging them to death is another.
How are we "flogging him to death"
It's footy Claw. Give the kid a run in the middle and free him up. He is never going to be a HBF.
He is not physically ready for an inside role  tone. he is way too slow for an outside role.  I agree play him in the middle but in the twos. We are killing this kid playing him in roles he cant perform at afl level.Very little ball he is physically  not up to it and is relying on scraps. Cmon mate you more than most understand the need to match up physical attributes to the role needed.

We dont need to play this kid at this stage yeah give him some games but let him develop and dominate in the twos where he physically has the best chance to compete.
You know what when he starts having 25 30 plus disposals in the twos and a third of them are contested then you will know he is ripe. he ius just not physically capable of playing to his strengths at afl atm
At the end of the day he has been no worse the Houli, Grigg and BEllis.
Playing him in the twos is a waste of time. Him playing amongst fat, local footballers isn't the answer. There are slower and skinnier kids running around at other clubs than Ellis. He needs games put into him and he needs to be played on a wing or HF. Dimma playing him across HB is useless.
He isn't going to win you games at the minute but you must find a way to fit in these kids otherwise they will stagnate in the twos with Griffiths and Elton.
Is the answer to just keep playing Houli and Grigg??

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Re: Corey Ellis [merged]
« Reply #394 on: April 28, 2016, 10:52:51 PM »
I am definitely for persevering with him. And yes at the least play him on the wing if you are worried about him getting smashed. plonking him in HB and expecting him to develop is going to kill this kid. HB is one of the hardest positions to develop in. Hodge struggled there in his first 3 seasons there. Enright struggled there also. Add in the fact that Ellis isn't naturally a defender and he has no hope in hell ever developing ball winning skills in HB.

Play him on the wing and as he gets size stick him in the middle. End of story.

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Re: Corey Ellis [merged]
« Reply #395 on: September 19, 2016, 04:25:37 AM »
Deledio discussing Corey Ellis:


“Corey just needs to get a good run at it.  He’s going okay. Silky skills, but just need to get a bit more aggression into him, I think.”

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-09-18/deledio-lifts-lid-on-young-tiger-talent


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Re: Corey Ellis [merged]
« Reply #396 on: September 19, 2016, 09:08:06 AM »
Deledio discussing Corey Ellis:


“Corey just needs to get a good run at it.  He’s going okay. Silky skills, but just need to get a bit more aggression into him, I think.”

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-09-18/deledio-lifts-lid-on-young-tiger-talent

Well said Lids

Perhaps instead of contemplating trading him we should make him coach  ;D
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Re: Corey Ellis [merged]
« Reply #397 on: September 19, 2016, 09:54:37 AM »
Lids was also a massive advocate on Lennon.
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Re: Corey Ellis [merged]
« Reply #398 on: September 19, 2016, 09:56:04 AM »
Shock horror
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Re: Corey Ellis [merged]
« Reply #399 on: September 19, 2016, 10:34:10 AM »
Another draft pick with no aggro  :banghead
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Re: Corey Ellis [merged]
« Reply #400 on: September 19, 2016, 10:36:10 AM »
World class corralling but
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Re: Corey Ellis [merged]
« Reply #401 on: September 19, 2016, 11:04:31 AM »
like connor they both need to get on the creatine sooner rather then later need more size they have pace but they worry me a bit with there ability

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Re: Corey Ellis [merged]
« Reply #402 on: September 19, 2016, 07:47:21 PM »
Ellis pace? he's slower than a wet week

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Re: Corey Ellis [merged]
« Reply #403 on: September 19, 2016, 10:59:43 PM »
Another draft pick with no aggro  :banghead

Well we drafted Arnot, an aggressive, big-bodied, inside mid.....then after his first year proceeded to tell him to tone down his aggression, lose some of his bulk and turn him into a forward pocket....:gotigers
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Re: Corey Ellis [merged]
« Reply #404 on: September 19, 2016, 11:03:10 PM »
Another draft pick with no aggro  :banghead

Well we drafted Arnot, an aggressive, big-bodied, inside mid.....then after his first year proceeded to tell him to tone down his aggression, lose some of his bulk and turn him into a forward pocket....:gotigers

Only to provide a Jake King standard game and then dropped because "development" :clapping