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Offline one-eyed

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Can Ty Vickery finally step up? ....... (Sportsfan)
« on: January 13, 2015, 01:28:29 PM »
Burning questions for 2015: Richmond - Can Ty Vickery finally step up?
Tuesday, January 13, 2015
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Author: Bradley Dawson


He'd want to, because it's his last, last chance. After five years of showing promise and playing well every third or fourth game between listless, uncompetitive, undisciplined efforts, Vickery has to lift. His 2014 summed up his career: he kicked four goals in a couple of games, played well in about four of his 12 for the year and got suspended for four matches for whacking West Coast's Dean Cox, ultimately losing his spot in the side to an improving Ben Griffiths.

For the last part of the year Griffiths did what Vickery seems unable to: he provided a target up forward, crashing some packs to take a bit of heat off Jack Riewoldt, and gave decent contests in the ruck to assist Maric. Vickery's ruckwork, in contrast, after five seasons is still poor – he jumps far too early or too late, appears to shirk body contact and gives away too many dumb free kicks.

Having just bagged him, we have to admit that Vickery CAN play. He just doesn't do it often enough. Nearing 25 years old, Vickery should be in his prime and if he can stay on the park and produce consistent effort, this just may be the year he finally plays to his potential. The Tigers will need him to if they are to go anywhere this year.

As for their other tall forward options: Shaun Hampson is at best a fill-in tap ruckman, is too slow and drops too many marks, Liam McBean may finally get a senior game but still looks a way off, while Todd Elton still struggles at VFL level. A fit David Astbury might allow Troy Chaplin to slide forward for more than just cameos, as he did in 2014.   

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Re: Can Ty Vickery finally step up? ....... (Sportsfan)
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2015, 01:47:56 PM »
Chaplin sliding forward like in the port game? Yes please  :birthday
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Re: Can Ty Vickery finally step up? ....... (Sportsfan)
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2015, 01:52:54 PM »
Still unsure why we don't entertain trades for him, Geelong would have been keen if they gave up pick 20 odd for Stanley.  :banghead
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Re: Can Ty Vickery finally step up? ....... (Sportsfan)
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2015, 02:21:42 PM »
Quote from: Phil Mrakov on January 13, 2015, 01:47:56 PM
Chaplin sliding forward like in the port game? Yes please  :birthday

About 300 metres forward should do it
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Re: Can Ty Vickery finally step up? ....... (Sportsfan)
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2015, 04:43:50 PM »
Must be his year... :pray
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Re: Can Ty Vickery finally step up? ....... (Sportsfan)
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2015, 05:08:21 PM »
bit of a nothing piece, we all know what we need from Vickery - consistency. He's not the ruckman we hoped he'd be (at least not yet), but his forward development is sound. I completely disagree re: undisciplined acts (In that I don't count them against him - if you're not playing well why not smack a few blokes from the opposition?) and the comparison to Ben Griffiths I found ironic - Griffiths only played good footy at the end of the year after being dropped throughout most of the middle of the season. Griffiths is far more of a tease that Vickery for mine, not the mention they have very different games.

I'm still a fan, see a  future and don't believe its 2015 or bust for Tyrone. Oh, and the assertion that at 25 he should be in the prime of his career, what a load of nonsense. For big men its far more varied.
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Re: Can Ty Vickery finally step up? ....... (Sportsfan)
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2015, 05:33:49 PM »
Vickery hits the scoreboard, averaged 2 goals a game playing CHF and helping out in the ruck. Not to bad IMO.
And he is  inconsistent, but what KPF who plays in an average side isn't?
Jeremy Cameron, the next big thing, only averaged 2.1 goals a game as a stay at home forward.
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Re: Can Ty Vickery finally step up? ....... (Sportsfan)
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2015, 05:48:12 PM »
It's hardly unusual for ruckmen of his age not yet to have hit their prime.
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Re: Can Ty Vickery finally step up? ....... (Sportsfan)
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2015, 07:21:08 PM »
Who is this muppet Dawson?

Zac's Dad?
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Re: Can Ty Vickery finally step up? ....... (Sportsfan)
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2015, 09:55:51 PM »
Should just play all of Maric, Vickery and Griffiths.
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Re: Can Ty Vickery finally step up? ....... (Sportsfan)
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2015, 11:44:10 PM »
Quote from: Andyy on January 13, 2015, 09:55:51 PM
Should just play all of Maric, Vickery and Griffiths.

..with Hamspud, McBean & McKenzie on the bench and Elton as sub.
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Re: Can Ty Vickery finally step up? ....... (Sportsfan)
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2015, 02:43:55 AM »
Pipe dream McBean.....

Still not ready.

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Re: Can Ty Vickery finally step up? ....... (Sportsfan)
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2015, 02:51:17 PM »
Quote from: (•))(©™ on January 14, 2015, 02:43:55 AM
Pipe dream McBean.....

Still not ready.

L M A O.

Why? Because that stuffwit says so? He's more than ready IMO.
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Re: Can Ty Vickery finally step up? ....... (Sportsfan)
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2015, 02:53:40 PM »
Had good faith in Vickery in the past but he has nearly lost me. Still think he has the tools just not the right mindset.
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Re: Can Ty Vickery finally step up? ....... (Sportsfan)
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2015, 02:07:22 AM »
Quote from: one-eyed on January 13, 2015, 01:28:29 PM
Burning questions for 2015: Richmond - Can Ty Vickery finally step up?
Tuesday, January 13, 2015
Source: SportsFan
Author: Bradley Dawson


He'd want to, because it's his last, last chance. After five years of showing promise and playing well every third or fourth game between listless, uncompetitive, undisciplined efforts, Vickery has to lift. His 2014 summed up his career: he kicked four goals in a couple of games, played well in about four of his 12 for the year and got suspended for four matches for whacking West Coast's Dean Cox, ultimately losing his spot in the side to an improving Ben Griffiths.

For the last part of the year Griffiths did what Vickery seems unable to: he provided a target up forward, crashing some packs to take a bit of heat off Jack Riewoldt, and gave decent contests in the ruck to assist Maric. Vickery's ruckwork, in contrast, after five seasons is still poor – he jumps far too early or too late, appears to shirk body contact and gives away too many dumb free kicks.

Having just bagged him, we have to admit that Vickery CAN play. He just doesn't do it often enough. Nearing 25 years old, Vickery should be in his prime and if he can stay on the park and produce consistent effort, this just may be the year he finally plays to his potential. The Tigers will need him to if they are to go anywhere this year.

As for their other tall forward options: Shaun Hampson is at best a fill-in tap ruckman, is too slow and drops too many marks, Liam McBean may finally get a senior game but still looks a way off, while Todd Elton still struggles at VFL level. A fit David Astbury might allow Troy Chaplin to slide forward for more than just cameos, as he did in 2014.   

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this bloke is reading my posts.
old pea heart vickery he sure does avoid body contact. people think he can become a decent ruckman, he doesnt have the stomach for it.
he has kicked some goals fairly regularly right thru his career to date. but ib all honesty its been the only thing you could put a tick aginst his name even then id say more than  half his goals are cheapies. big tough ty vickery who shirks body contact when its not to his liking.
if we had other decent  options this bloke would have played a fraction of the games he has but alas his competition has been poor blokes like post, griffiths elton, skinny mcbean. hampson,  ffs hes had no competition for his spot.
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